Mobile phone question

[Steve G.]

Not really my decision, or even my phone - I am only the messenger.

I would not buy a phone that costs like 2 netbooks - I own a Galaxy mini
(the one with the slightly larger screen), which does all I need, and cost
me 599 shekels. True, if I forget my magnifying glass the screen is tough
to read, especially for sites not parsed for mobile, but that is probably a
benefit. Otherwise I'd be having too much fun.

I was advised Amazon sells unlocked Apple 4 devices, refurbished, for very
reasonable prices. So I guess I'd soon be the proud uncle of one such
device.

Thanks for all the advice,

Z.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il> wrote:

> Why complicate things?
>
> You can get a dirt cheep smartphone here in Israel and then go to any of
> the netwrks and buy the SIM with the plan that suits you...
>
> I wouldn't go into buying refurbished phone at all - to many things can go
> wrong : a friend of mine bought a Samsung Galaxy S II at one of these
> dealers here in Israel and the screen went dead after two months. Of
> course, the dealer denied any warranty or liability and it turns out it was
> a fake from Japan...
>
> I'd buy a new phone, right from the official dealer.
>
> I just bought my Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300) for 2400 NIS.
>
> Amichai.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <
> geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/28/2013 12:29 AM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>>
>>  So I looked it up, jailbreaking is legal but if you hand the phone in
>>> in it's jailborken state they will claim your warranty is void, if you
>>> restore the phone to factory before handing it in you should be fine
>>> (at least according to the people on the oh-so-trustable internets)
>>>
>>
>> Jailbreaking is a minor issue. First of all, only a small portion of
>> iPhone owners do it, most have no need nor clue as to why one would do it
>> in the first place.
>>
>>
>> Jailbreaking can be removed by resetting the phone back to the state you
>> bought it, which can easily be done using iTunes and anyone who has enough
>> tech savvy to jailbreak it in the first place knows how to do it.
>>
>> To keep this the least bit on topic, Android also has a "padded cell"
>> which prevents you from installing software except from the Google store,
>> but it can be turned off via a user settable option.
>>
>>
>> The problem is removing SP (usually mislabeled SIM) locks. If a locked
>> iPhone does not have its SP lock removed by Apple, it has been tampered
>> with and will not be repaired.
>>
>> Service Providers that sell SP locked iPhones, unlock them through Apple.
>>
>> I have never seen an SP locked Android phone, although I am sure they
>> exist, so I have no information about how one unlocks them.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Ehm... the iDen network is still up and still heavily used.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, thanks, I thought it was dead.
>>
>>
>>  But yeah I also heard rumors that they'd like to close it and move
>>> everyone to 3G, I guess if they provide stable PTT services on those
>>> networks and devices that are rugged like most iDen devices most
>>> people won't mind.
>>>
>>
>> There are several private (as in non government) trunked radio systems in
>> Israel, eventually everyone using MIRS will either go to cell phones, or
>> buy time on one of them. Keeping the MIRS network going for the few users
>> they have today will become less and less worth the cost.
>>
>> Note that MIRS is the name of the system and service, iDen is a US
>> vendor's name for their service to separate it from Motorola's MIRS service
>> and other trunked services.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Pelephone didn't start with no customers, when the market was just
>>> released I actually spoke to them to see if I wanted to move to them
>>> but at the time their 3G network wasn't operational yet and I would
>>> have had to buy a new (old) phone just to connect to them.
>>>
>>
>> Pelephone has been mistreating customers since the first cellular service
>> in Israel. They started out with AMPS, then NAMPS (which failed miserably
>> in the rest of the world due to poor service in hilly/built up areas. They
>> they moved to 800mHz CDMA, which was even worse in terms of crowded or
>> hilly areas.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  As far as I can find online Pelephone is still operating it's old
>>> network (EV-DO/CDMA2000) but aren't accepting new customers with that
>>> technology...
>>>
>>
>> Geoff.
>>
>>
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Steve

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