self mail hosting

self mail hosting

E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il
Sun Jun 8 18:21:49 IDT 2014


2014-06-08 17:58 GMT+03:00 Efraim Flashner <efraim.flashner at gmail.com>:

> On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:47:18 +0300
> "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > 2014-06-08 14:22 GMT+03:00 Efraim Flashner
> > <efraim.flashner at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > using netvision's smart host shouldn't change my from or reply-to
> > > something at netvision?
> > >
> > No, as long as you are an authenticated user it should pass whetever
> > mail you want, it may or may not be flagged as 100% trustworthy since
> > it won't be your "official" smtp server, but you may be able to set
> > policies that declare that it is a trusted origin server. (
> > You can for instance also send you @gmail mail through a smarthost,
> > but it will result in a warning showing in gmail that the mail may
> > not be from the person since the mail came from a non-google smtp
> > server. Also note that the smart host will most likely not use TLS for
> > communication between smtp servers (it may use it for you>smarthost,
> > depending on how good your ISP is), but you would anyhow only be able
> > to do that if you are willing to shell out the required money to get
> > a signed certificate (self signed is nice for testing but 3rd parties
> > will never accept them [as they should]).
>
> I have my certificate signed by CACert, but if that doesn't look like
> enough then I'll probably decide if it's worth it based on the price.
>
If CAcert is referring to an accepted authority and not to the signing
script provided by openssl you should be fine, otherwise you would need to
convince the 3rd parties that they should trust you as a signing body...
If I'm not mistaken there is a free ssl signing auth for applications like
this, I just don't remember their name.

>
> > By the way does your ISP even allow incoming port 25 traffic? They
> > generally block that in an attempt to stymie spam.
> > (Outgoing is often only through the smarthost while incoming is
> > generally completely blocked).
> > Regards,
> > Eliyahu - אליהו
> >
>
> Incoming works completely, I test mailed myself from gmail using my
> cellphone.
>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 13:31:24 +0300
> > > "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you use your ISPs' smart host you should also be OK...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2014-06-08 12:45 GMT+03:00 Vitaly <linux at karasik.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > You can get static IP for just about 15NIS/month, I have one
> > > > > from 012. Regards
> > > > > Vitaly
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Efraim Flashner <
> > > > > efraim.flashner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I've registered a domain and set up my raspberry pi to recieve
> > > > >> and send emails.  Everything seems to be working fine, except
> > > > >> that emails that I send to gmail get rejected by google.  I've
> > > > >> been told that google rejects email where the reverse-dns
> > > > >> doesn't match the dns record, and because I don't have a
> > > > >> static IP address there's not much I can do.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Has anyone had success getting a static IP address without too
> > > > >> much hassle? Currently I'm getting my internet through
> > > > >> netvision, but we were planning on switching to 018 for their
> > > > >> cheaper prices.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Getting a static IP address seems like it would be the easiest
> > > > >> option, followed by reconfiguring postfix to use a SMTP relay
> > > > >> to send mail through another server, but I'd need to make sure
> > > > >> that the header isn't changed (too much) if I do that.  Also
> > > > >> I've found keeping my sanity involves interacting with Israeli
> > > > >> beaurocracy as little as possible, so I'd rather not call
> > > > >> netvision for a static IP since I'm planning on leaving them
> > > > >> anyway.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If anyone has any experience doing their own mail and want to
> > > > >> share, I'd love to hear about it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -Efraim
> > > > >>
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