From amos.shapira at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 03:33:04 2016 From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 12:33:04 +1100 Subject: Problems while trying to install CENTOS 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You should also take the offer by the installer to checksum the media. On 1 January 2016 at 03:18, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi Israel! > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Israel Shikler > wrote: > >> I downloaded Centos 7 from a mirror site in Israel, >> In the first time I created an installation dvd by imgburn and got the >> following message while installing: >> Error msg: centos 7 dev/root does not exist >> In the second time the dvd was crated via expressburn, this time I got : >> Error msg: not a com32r image >> >> Any idea what could go wrong? >> > > Did you verify that the SHA-256 sum of the .iso file is correct? See > http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/centos/7.2.1511/isos/x86_64/sha256sum.txt - > if there's a mismatch then you'll need to use rsync (see > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync ) or zsync (see > http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ ) to make sure you got the right file > contents. Otherwise, it's possible that you have used bad DVD media or that > your hardware is incompatible with CentOS 7 (or faulty). > > Regards, > > -- Shlomi Fish > > -- > ------------------------------------------ > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Chuck Norris helps the gods that help themselves. > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 09:13:52 2016 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 09:13:52 +0200 Subject: mencoder sound quality - TV recording Message-ID: <20160103091352.51d72984@shlomo1.solomon> I watch TV on a capture card using either the TVtime GUI or the following from the CLI: mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:norm=PAL:input=2:amode=1:width=720:height=576:outfmt=yv12:device=/dev/video0 To record from the same card I use mencoder. My problem is that the audio quality of the recording is not great - hard to describe the problem but the sound is just not "clean" - sort of an echo. I've tried many different combinations of options. Here's the best I've been able to record (but still not great): mencoder tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0:norm=PAL:input=2:width=720:height=576:audiorate=48000:outfmt=yv12:alsa=1:adevice=hw.1 -oac copy -ovc lavc -noskip -vf scale=720:576 -o /tmp/tst.avi 2 "strange" added bits of info. - part of the mplayer output to the terminal is "Audio: no sound", but there *IS* good quality sound. - the mencoder command *DOES* output good sound during the recording process, but the audio in the recorded file is not great. Here's part of the terminal output from mencoder - I suspect it's related to my problem. audiocodec: framecopy (format=1 chans=2 rate=48000 bits=16 B/s=192000 sample-4) Forcing audio preload to 0, max pts correction to 0. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 From elazarl at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 11:24:04 2016 From: elazarl at gmail.com (Elazar Leibovich) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 11:24:04 +0200 Subject: [job] Ravello systems in Ra'anana Zarhin 13 Message-ID: Ravello systems is developing an hypervisor/virtual machine capable of running on the cloud. Companies who want to run, e.g., ESXi on the cloud, are running their software on Ravello's hypervisor which is capable of running nested on AWS or Google cloud. Ravello also emulates Layer 2 network for virtual machine, enabling clients such as checkpoint to run their virtual appliance on the cloud. The following positions are open: 1) Experienced Java backend. Developing web frontend and collecting metrics from the Ravello virtual machines. Standard Java stack+Cassandra: Spring Postgresql Hibernate Tomcat. Example task: adding a warning email for a customer when his bill surpass a certain threshold. 2) Automation. Running various operating systems on Ravello's hypervisor, and verifying that Ravello's hypervisor works correctly. Example task: setting a Jenkins job that installs an ESX and a windows guest, and verify Windows is running PCMark correctly. 3) Network layout solution. Ravello runs its hypervisor on the cloud, and has a software to manage thy hypervisor network, disks and general environment. There job here spans many areas, tasks there could be, benchmarking and understanding the bottenecks of Ravello's block device, changing the way Ravello provides virtual switch, designing a better way for users to define VLANs in their network. 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URL: From w1 at zak.co.il Mon Jan 11 10:45:50 2016 From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:45:50 +0200 Subject: Lenovo Y700 Message-ID: <1452501950.7872.45.camel@zak.co.il> The process of selecting a new laptop to be used with Linux turned out to be rather painful. Now I am considering the Lenovo Y700 laptop. Does anyone have experience with this laptop and with installing Linux on it? >From what I found by googling this laptop model, the Linux installing process is standard, for a laptop which has UEFI and Secure Boot. Before actually ordering it, I'd like to be sure that there are no surprises. --- Omer -- "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. Williams My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html From shlomif at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 13:52:15 2016 From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:52:15 +0200 Subject: New List of Databases' Implementations. Message-ID: Hi all! I've prepared a new list of databases' implementations over on my home site: http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/databases-list/ Many of them are open source and most of them can run on Linux. I'm a little unhappy from it because often there was not a lot I could say on each implementation (I'm not a databases' expert). Anyway, comments are welcome and you can also send pull-requests to https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/shlomi-fish-homepage/src/310a4357cb9d01915701f2f1905ad9798e8cb571/t2/open-source/resources/databases-list/index.html.wml?at=default&fileviewer=file-view-default . The licence is CC-by . 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But very little to teach kids skills they can use on their > own. > > Now I want to teach my oldest Python but I can't find any good resources. > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From softkol at netvision.net.il Mon Jan 11 14:35:54 2016 From: softkol at netvision.net.il (Israel Shikler) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:35:54 +0200 Subject: Configuring Wifi on Centos/7 Message-ID: Hi All , As a novice on Linux I need some help. I have installed Centos/7 on Del Vostro 1014. I got Lan connection immediately, but WIFI wont be dispalyed on the network tab. Tried all kind of Linux commands in order to display the WIFI card/dev but to no avail Any help will be appreciated. , Israel Shikler Phone : 972-77-5354006 Mobile : 972-50-2885100 Fax : 153-77-5348967 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From yuval at y3xz.com Tue Jan 12 15:59:09 2016 From: yuval at y3xz.com (Yuval Adam) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:59:09 +0200 Subject: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> 018 Xphone AFAIK they are the only ISP that supports native ipv6 on non-commercial uplinks On 01/12/2016 03:57 PM, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > Hi all. > Do we have one or two?? > Want to get rid of NAT (partially). > > BR, Evgeniy. > > -- > So long, and thanks for all the fish. > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > From thelonecabbage at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 16:39:51 2016 From: thelonecabbage at gmail.com (Justin) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:39:51 +0200 Subject: Python for Kids In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: found this! ????? ?????? ????? ????, ??? ????? ?????? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ????? ?????? ????????, ??? ??????? ???? 1500 ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ???????. ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ??????? ???????? ??????. ?? ???? ?? ??? ?????, ????? ????? ????? ?????, ????? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ?????. ?? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ?? ??????- ?????? ?????? CodeMonkey- ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????????? ??????. ??? ???? ?????? ?11.4.16, ?????? ????? ?????. ???? ?? ???? 100 ??? ???! ???? ????? ??! ?????? ????? ?????? ???????, ???? ????, ???? ?????. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: > I'd be interested to hear about resources for these ages in English too. > > On 11 January 2016 at 01:11, Justin wrote: > >> Has anyone discovered good resources for teaching kids python? Hebrew? >> (Ages 8-11) >> >> Code.org has great resources for abstract programing. They even translate >> into Hebrew. But very little to teach kids skills they can use on their >> own. >> >> Now I want to teach my oldest Python but I can't find any good resources. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> >> > > > -- > > -- "People say Barry if you don't love America why don't you leave it? 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On Jan 12, 2016 15:59, "Yuval Adam" wrote: > 018 Xphone > AFAIK they are the only ISP that supports native ipv6 on non-commercial > uplinks > > > On 01/12/2016 03:57 PM, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > > Hi all. > > Do we have one or two?? > > Want to get rid of NAT (partially). > > > > BR, Evgeniy. > > > > -- > > So long, and thanks for all the fish. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shachar at shemesh.biz Tue Jan 12 19:18:08 2016 From: shachar at shemesh.biz (Shachar Shemesh) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 19:18:08 +0200 Subject: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael In-Reply-To: References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> Message-ID: <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> On 12/01/16 18:05, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > > Thank you. Will try. > I did try. On the plus side: They give you a real address. In fact, they give you 2^64 real addresses. Bear in mind, however, that they do not give you a fixed address. You will get a different address range every time you connect. When I asked, a fixed IPv6 address range costed as much as a fixed IPv4, which makes zero sense, but there you have it. To my surprise, this worked rather well. Whenever the router (I was using openwrt) reconnected, it somehow managed to provoke all the clients to get a new address. The clients did not give up the old addresses, so connections inside the network were not disconnected due to this change. I guess this means you cannot connect P2P to another client that resides on an address you have ever owned, but that seems a minor problem. Down sides: You are still going to be using NAT. Since the IPv6 support in Israel is virtually non-existent, which means you will be using your IPv4 address quite a lot. You only get one of those. I hope you realize that having NAT means that outside elements don't know which precise machine inside your network they are talking to. It seems, from your question, that you consider this a good thing, but I wanted to make sure you are aware of it. Their supports leaves something to be desired. Very long waiting times, it may take them 48 hours to call you back if you decide not to wait, and most of their technicians don't know how to configure IPv6. Some don't even know it exists. I will qualify this point by saying I was their customer, briefly, soon after their launch. It is possible this point has, since, improved. In the end, when an upgrade to 40Mb/s left me without internet for a week pending a (failed) attempt to diagnose it, including an X-Fone technician sending me to the modem's maker to get a firmware upgrade he said might help, and that maker brushing me off (it was the modem they were subsidizing for me, so I did hold them partially responsible), I decided that enough was enough, and went to Nezeq for a few months. I'm now on Cellcom triple. It is also worth noting that on Cellcom triple, the technician is mandatory (and costs around 300nis). He had to work quite hard to get their modem to sync in VDSL, going to the floor Bezeq switch several times. After he left, I connected my modem and it synced, so it's obvious that the problem was, indeed, a physical problem with my house's infrastructure. Still, a week without internet is too long. Bottom line, now that I know VDSL works, I might give them another go, once they offer a phone as well. For the time being, I'm happy with where I am (I've only moved a week ago). Shachar > On Jan 12, 2016 15:59, "Yuval Adam" > wrote: > > 018 Xphone > AFAIK they are the only ISP that supports native ipv6 on > non-commercial > uplinks > > > On 01/12/2016 03:57 PM, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > > Hi all. > > Do we have one or two?? > > Want to get rid of NAT (partially). > > > > BR, Evgeniy. > > > > -- > > So long, and thanks for all the fish. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w1 at zak.co.il Tue Jan 12 21:33:40 2016 From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:33:40 +0200 Subject: E-mail hosting provider in Israel? Message-ID: <1452627220.7872.128.camel@zak.co.il> I am looking for an E-mail hosting provider based in Israel, which I can use to receive and send E-mail to the entire world. With which provider/s (with the exception of the well-known Google's gmail) do you have good experience? --- Omer -- "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. Williams My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 13:43:51 2016 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:43:51 +0200 Subject: Python for Kids In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160113134351.7952ce7c@shlomo1.solomon> These are in English, but may interest you: https://inventwithpython.com/inventwithpython_3rd.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxJ4y96AC8m3M2RkN29rRW1rUzg/edit There's also additional stuff (source code, etc) at: https://inventwithpython.com/ On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:16:38 +1100 Amos Shapira wrote: > I'd be interested to hear about resources for these ages in English > too. > > On 11 January 2016 at 01:11, Justin wrote: > > > Has anyone discovered good resources for teaching kids python? > > Hebrew? (Ages 8-11) > > > > Code.org has great resources for abstract programing. They even > > translate into Hebrew. But very little to teach kids skills they > > can use on their own. > > > > Now I want to teach my oldest Python but I can't find any good > > resources. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > > -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Wed Jan 13 19:52:06 2016 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:52:06 +0200 Subject: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael In-Reply-To: <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> Message-ID: Triple C may also support IPv6, when they started I used them, my experience with them was very positive. Very knowledgeable support people etc. The only reason I'm not with them still is that the other people who use the link demanded Rimon for their filtering prowess. HTH, Eliyahu - ????? 2016-01-12 19:18 GMT+02:00 Shachar Shemesh : > On 12/01/16 18:05, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > > Thank you. Will try. > > I did try. > > On the plus side: They give you a real address. In fact, they give you 2^64 > real addresses. Bear in mind, however, that they do not give you a fixed > address. You will get a different address range every time you connect. When > I asked, a fixed IPv6 address range costed as much as a fixed IPv4, which > makes zero sense, but there you have it. > > To my surprise, this worked rather well. Whenever the router (I was using > openwrt) reconnected, it somehow managed to provoke all the clients to get a > new address. The clients did not give up the old addresses, so connections > inside the network were not disconnected due to this change. I guess this > means you cannot connect P2P to another client that resides on an address > you have ever owned, but that seems a minor problem. > > Down sides: > You are still going to be using NAT. Since the IPv6 support in Israel is > virtually non-existent, which means you will be using your IPv4 address > quite a lot. You only get one of those. > > I hope you realize that having NAT means that outside elements don't know > which precise machine inside your network they are talking to. It seems, > from your question, that you consider this a good thing, but I wanted to > make sure you are aware of it. > > Their supports leaves something to be desired. Very long waiting times, it > may take them 48 hours to call you back if you decide not to wait, and most > of their technicians don't know how to configure IPv6. Some don't even know > it exists. I will qualify this point by saying I was their customer, > briefly, soon after their launch. It is possible this point has, since, > improved. > > In the end, when an upgrade to 40Mb/s left me without internet for a week > pending a (failed) attempt to diagnose it, including an X-Fone technician > sending me to the modem's maker to get a firmware upgrade he said might > help, and that maker brushing me off (it was the modem they were subsidizing > for me, so I did hold them partially responsible), I decided that enough was > enough, and went to Nezeq for a few months. I'm now on Cellcom triple. > > It is also worth noting that on Cellcom triple, the technician is mandatory > (and costs around 300nis). He had to work quite hard to get their modem to > sync in VDSL, going to the floor Bezeq switch several times. After he left, > I connected my modem and it synced, so it's obvious that the problem was, > indeed, a physical problem with my house's infrastructure. Still, a week > without internet is too long. > > Bottom line, now that I know VDSL works, I might give them another go, once > they offer a phone as well. For the time being, I'm happy with where I am > (I've only moved a week ago). > > Shachar > > On Jan 12, 2016 15:59, "Yuval Adam" wrote: >> >> 018 Xphone >> AFAIK they are the only ISP that supports native ipv6 on non-commercial >> uplinks >> >> >> On 01/12/2016 03:57 PM, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: >> > Hi all. >> > Do we have one or two?? >> > Want to get rid of NAT (partially). >> > >> > BR, Evgeniy. >> > >> > -- >> > So long, and thanks for all the fish. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Linux-il mailing list >> > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Wed Jan 13 20:30:35 2016 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:30:35 +0200 Subject: Configuring Wifi on Centos/7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Most likely you're missing the firmware for your wifi-adapter, by using lspci/lsusb like Rabin mentioned you can find its' make & model and then find out exactly what piece of software wasn't installed. I also join in Rabins' question why use CentOS on a personal device (though 7 is fairly up to date as things go and should handle your laptop from 2010 fine). 2016-01-11 16:07 GMT+02:00 Rabin Yasharzadehe : > 1. but why CentOS on a Laptop ? > 2. lsusb/lspci list the wireless device ? > google for the device name and > "centos" maybe you need a specific package for the firmware. > > -- > Rabin > > On 11 January 2016 at 14:35, Israel Shikler > wrote: >> >> Hi All , >> >> As a novice on Linux I need some help. >> I have installed Centos/7 on Del Vostro 1014. >> I got Lan connection immediately, but WIFI wont be dispalyed on the >> network tab. >> Tried all kind of Linux commands in order to display the WIFI card/dev but >> to no avail >> >> >> Any help will be appreciated. >> >> , >> >> Israel Shikler >> >> >> Phone : 972-77-5354006 >> Mobile : 972-50-2885100 >> Fax : 153-77-5348967 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Wed Jan 13 20:32:59 2016 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:32:59 +0200 Subject: Python for Kids In-Reply-To: <20160113134351.7952ce7c@shlomo1.solomon> References: <20160113134351.7952ce7c@shlomo1.solomon> Message-ID: Not quite python but for the (really) young kids there's Linda Luikas' Hello Ruby... 2016-01-13 13:43 GMT+02:00 Shlomo Solomon : > These are in English, but may interest you: > > https://inventwithpython.com/inventwithpython_3rd.pdf > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxJ4y96AC8m3M2RkN29rRW1rUzg/edit > > There's also additional stuff (source code, etc) at: > https://inventwithpython.com/ > > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:16:38 +1100 > Amos Shapira wrote: > >> I'd be interested to hear about resources for these ages in English >> too. >> >> On 11 January 2016 at 01:11, Justin wrote: >> >> > Has anyone discovered good resources for teaching kids python? >> > Hebrew? (Ages 8-11) >> > >> > Code.org has great resources for abstract programing. They even >> > translate into Hebrew. But very little to teach kids skills they >> > can use on their own. >> > >> > Now I want to teach my oldest Python but I can't find any good >> > resources. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Linux-il mailing list >> > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > >> > >> >> > > > > -- > Shlomo Solomon > http://the-solomons.net > Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Wed Jan 13 20:48:33 2016 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:48:33 +0200 Subject: New List of Databases' Implementations. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice summary, thanks :) 2016-01-11 13:52 GMT+02:00 Shlomi Fish : > Hi all! > > I've prepared a new list of databases' implementations over on my home site: > > http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/databases-list/ > > Many of them are open source and most of them can run on Linux. > > I'm a little unhappy from it because often there was not a lot I could say > on each implementation (I'm not a databases' expert). > > Anyway, comments are welcome and you can also send pull-requests to > https://bitbucket.org/shlomif/shlomi-fish-homepage/src/310a4357cb9d01915701f2f1905ad9798e8cb571/t2/open-source/resources/databases-list/index.html.wml?at=default&fileviewer=file-view-default > . > > The licence is CC-by . > > Regards, > > -- Shlomi Fish > > -- > ------------------------------------------ > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Chuck Norris helps the gods that help themselves. > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > From gootvilig.davidhai+linux-il at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 20:58:27 2016 From: gootvilig.davidhai+linux-il at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?15PXldeTINeX15kg15LXldeY15XXmdec15nXkg==?=) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:58:27 +0200 Subject: Python for Kids Message-ID: Hi, I don't know how old is your oldest but this might be good for him. --dhg On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Justin wrote: > Has anyone discovered good resources for teaching kids python? Hebrew? > (Ages 8-11) > > Code.org has great resources for abstract programing. They even translate > into Hebrew. But very little to teach kids skills they can use on their > own. > > Now I want to teach my oldest Python but I can't find any good resources. > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nad.oby at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 12:39:49 2016 From: nad.oby at gmail.com (Evgeniy Ginzburg) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 12:39:49 +0200 Subject: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael In-Reply-To: References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> Message-ID: Thank you for another valuable piece of information. BR, Evgeniy. On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:52 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > Triple C may also support IPv6, when they started I used them, my > experience with them was very positive. > Very knowledgeable support people etc. > The only reason I'm not with them still is that the other people who > use the link demanded Rimon for their filtering prowess. > HTH, > Eliyahu - ????? > > 2016-01-12 19:18 GMT+02:00 Shachar Shemesh : > > On 12/01/16 18:05, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > > > > Thank you. Will try. > > > > I did try. > > > > On the plus side: They give you a real address. In fact, they give you > 2^64 > > real addresses. Bear in mind, however, that they do not give you a fixed > > address. You will get a different address range every time you connect. > When > > I asked, a fixed IPv6 address range costed as much as a fixed IPv4, which > > makes zero sense, but there you have it. > > > > To my surprise, this worked rather well. Whenever the router (I was using > > openwrt) reconnected, it somehow managed to provoke all the clients to > get a > > new address. The clients did not give up the old addresses, so > connections > > inside the network were not disconnected due to this change. I guess this > > means you cannot connect P2P to another client that resides on an address > > you have ever owned, but that seems a minor problem. > > > > Down sides: > > You are still going to be using NAT. Since the IPv6 support in Israel is > > virtually non-existent, which means you will be using your IPv4 address > > quite a lot. You only get one of those. > > > > I hope you realize that having NAT means that outside elements don't know > > which precise machine inside your network they are talking to. It seems, > > from your question, that you consider this a good thing, but I wanted to > > make sure you are aware of it. > > > > Their supports leaves something to be desired. Very long waiting times, > it > > may take them 48 hours to call you back if you decide not to wait, and > most > > of their technicians don't know how to configure IPv6. Some don't even > know > > it exists. I will qualify this point by saying I was their customer, > > briefly, soon after their launch. It is possible this point has, since, > > improved. > > > > In the end, when an upgrade to 40Mb/s left me without internet for a week > > pending a (failed) attempt to diagnose it, including an X-Fone technician > > sending me to the modem's maker to get a firmware upgrade he said might > > help, and that maker brushing me off (it was the modem they were > subsidizing > > for me, so I did hold them partially responsible), I decided that enough > was > > enough, and went to Nezeq for a few months. I'm now on Cellcom triple. > > > > It is also worth noting that on Cellcom triple, the technician is > mandatory > > (and costs around 300nis). He had to work quite hard to get their modem > to > > sync in VDSL, going to the floor Bezeq switch several times. After he > left, > > I connected my modem and it synced, so it's obvious that the problem was, > > indeed, a physical problem with my house's infrastructure. Still, a week > > without internet is too long. > > > > Bottom line, now that I know VDSL works, I might give them another go, > once > > they offer a phone as well. For the time being, I'm happy with where I am > > (I've only moved a week ago). > > > > Shachar > > > > On Jan 12, 2016 15:59, "Yuval Adam" wrote: > >> > >> 018 Xphone > >> AFAIK they are the only ISP that supports native ipv6 on non-commercial > >> uplinks > >> > >> > >> On 01/12/2016 03:57 PM, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > >> > Hi all. > >> > Do we have one or two?? > >> > Want to get rid of NAT (partially). > >> > > >> > BR, Evgeniy. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > So long, and thanks for all the fish. > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Linux-il mailing list > >> > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > >> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Linux-il mailing list > >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Fri Jan 15 10:54:56 2016 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:54:56 +0200 Subject: mencoder sound quality - TV recording In-Reply-To: <20160103091352.51d72984@shlomo1.solomon> References: <20160103091352.51d72984@shlomo1.solomon> Message-ID: <20160115105456.41e09145@shlomo1.solomon> Can anyone help? I didn't get any replies to this. On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 09:13:52 +0200 Shlomo Solomon wrote: > I watch TV on a capture card using either the TVtime GUI or the > following from the CLI: > mplayer tv:// -tv > driver=v4l2:norm=PAL:input=2:amode=1:width=720:height=576:outfmt=yv12:device=/dev/video0 > > > To record from the same card I use mencoder. My problem is that the > audio quality of the recording is not great - hard to describe the > problem but the sound is just not "clean" - sort of an echo. I've > tried many different combinations of options. Here's the best I've > been able to record (but still not great): > > mencoder tv:// -tv > driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0:norm=PAL:input=2:width=720:height=576:audiorate=48000:outfmt=yv12:alsa=1:adevice=hw.1 > -oac copy -ovc lavc -noskip -vf scale=720:576 -o /tmp/tst.avi > > > 2 "strange" added bits of info. > - part of the mplayer output to the terminal is "Audio: no sound", but > there *IS* good quality sound. > - the mencoder command *DOES* output good sound during the recording > process, but the audio in the recorded file is not great. > > Here's part of the terminal output from mencoder - I suspect it's > related to my problem. > > audiocodec: framecopy (format=1 chans=2 rate=48000 bits=16 B/s=192000 > sample-4) Forcing audio preload to 0, max pts correction to 0. > > > > > -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 From shlomif at gmail.com Wed Jan 20 12:01:14 2016 From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:01:14 +0200 Subject: New List of Databases' Implementations. 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I would, but I am not a > coder.... > > Amichai > On Jan 23, 2016 10:18 PM, "Dimid Duchovny" wrote: > >> FWIW, I tried using wine, and got the following error: >> fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet >> fixme:shell:SHGetKnownFolderPath flags 0x00004400 not supported >> >> 2016-01-22 15:00 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman : >> >>> Hey All, >>> >>> I wonder any way to use RavKav Online on Linux? >>> >>> Their app is for Windows only (big surprise!)... >>> >>> Is there a way to make a Linux version available? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Amichai >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linux-il mailing list >>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:32:57 +0200 Subject: RavKav Online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So, how do we go from here? How do I get a .deb fie to download and install? How do we make them to make it available on the official site? Amichai 2016-01-24 9:57 GMT+02:00 Dimid Duchovny : > (cc-ing everyone) > Their solution is java based, so it should be relatively easy to release a > linux version. I've found an osx version on their site > , and inside there's a jar with the > following packages (see attached file) which I generated by running: > `jar tvf com/pcentra/ravkavsdk/desktop/osx/RavKavOnline.jar | egrep -v > '(class)|(txt)|(xml)|(png)' | sort -u` > 2016-01-24 8:33 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman : > It won't work with wine. I didn't even try... > > Someone should write a native Linux client for it. I would, but I am not a > coder.... > > Amichai > On Jan 23, 2016 10:18 PM, "Dimid Duchovny" wrote: > >> FWIW, I tried using wine, and got the following error: >> fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet >> fixme:shell:SHGetKnownFolderPath flags 0x00004400 not supported >> >> 2016-01-22 15:00 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman : >> >>> Hey All, >>> >>> I wonder any way to use RavKav Online on Linux? >>> >>> Their app is for Windows only (big surprise!)... >>> >>> Is there a way to make a Linux version available? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Amichai >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linux-il mailing list >>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tzafrir at cohens.org.il Tue Jan 26 17:04:27 2016 From: tzafrir at cohens.org.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:04:27 +0100 Subject: IPv6 tunnels [was: Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160126150427.GT7630@lemon.cohens.org.il> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 03:57:01PM +0200, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > Hi all. > Do we have one or two?? > Want to get rid of NAT (partially). Off-topic, but I saw the following error today in my mail log: dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host aspmx.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4013:c01::1a] said: 550-5.7.1 [2001:0:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx] Our system has detected that this 550-5.7.1 message does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regard ing PTR records 550-5.7.1 and authentication. Please review 550-5.7.1 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=ipv6_authentication_error for more 550 5.7.1 information. Looking further I noticed that I installed the package miredo and forgot about it. Perhaps I should set up a server somewhere and link my clients to it. Some of my requests to gmail go through it. And on the same note: SoftLayer still doesn't provide IPV6 addresses. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzafrir at jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's tzafrir at cohens.org.il | | best tzafrir at debian.org | | friend From dimidd at gmail.com Thu Jan 28 08:54:15 2016 From: dimidd at gmail.com (Dimid Duchovny) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:54:15 +0200 Subject: RavKav Online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I haven't managed to make it run, so I think we should contact their support (support at ravkavonline.co.il), and in parallel the MoT (misrad ha- taxbura). 2016-01-25 19:32 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman : > > So, how do we go from here? > > How do I get a .deb fie to download and install? > > How do we make them to make it available on the official site? > > Amichai > > 2016-01-24 9:57 GMT+02:00 Dimid Duchovny : > >> (cc-ing everyone) >> Their solution is java based, so it should be relatively easy to release >> a linux version. I've found an osx version on their site >> , and inside there's a jar with >> the following packages (see attached file) which I generated by running: >> `jar tvf com/pcentra/ravkavsdk/desktop/osx/RavKavOnline.jar | egrep -v >> '(class)|(txt)|(xml)|(png)' | sort -u` >> > > 2016-01-24 8:33 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman : > >> It won't work with wine. I didn't even try... >> >> Someone should write a native Linux client for it. I would, but I am not >> a coder.... >> >> Amichai >> On Jan 23, 2016 10:18 PM, "Dimid Duchovny" wrote: >> >>> FWIW, I tried using wine, and got the following error: >>> fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet >>> fixme:shell:SHGetKnownFolderPath flags 0x00004400 not supported >>> >>> 2016-01-22 15:00 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman : >>> >>>> Hey All, >>>> >>>> I wonder any way to use RavKav Online on Linux? >>>> >>>> Their app is for Windows only (big surprise!)... >>>> >>>> Is there a way to make a Linux version available? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Amichai >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Linux-il mailing list >>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>>> >>>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beni.cherniavsky at gmail.com Thu Jan 28 15:55:46 2016 From: beni.cherniavsky at gmail.com (Beni Cherniavsky-Paskin) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:55:46 +0200 Subject: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael In-Reply-To: <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> Message-ID: 2016-01-12 19:18 GMT+02:00 Shachar Shemesh : > > Down sides: > You are still going to be using NAT. Since the IPv6 support in Israel is virtually non-existent, which means you will be using your IPv4 address quite a lot. You only get one of those. Do you mean still using NAT for IPv4 connections, or everything? My machines all get world-addressable IPv6 addresses on Xfone (after disabling firewall in bezeq's router, see below), so there seems to be no NAT involved with IPv6. IPv4 functions normally, obviously using NAT. It's hard to call that a downside, since getting a dozen IPv4 addresses can't be cheap. ==== dump of mail (with small edits) I thought I sent Shachar and the list about a year ago, but I see haven't reached the list ==== I've been using Xfone summer 2015 and am satisfied ? but see problems (A) (B) below. I'm on Bezeq ADSL which gave me a free modem with wifi router (DSL-6850U), whose wifi I really can't recommend (see (B)). With zero configuration on my part every device (ubuntu, chromebox, android) got an IPv6 address and outgoing IPv6 connections Just Worked :-) All it took* to get incoming IPv6 to any device to work is: Setup -> WAN Service -> PPPoE -> ppp1.1: disabled firewall (I believe this disables both IPv4 and IPv6 firewall, which I'm fine with. There is a separate NAT setting which I left on ? AFAICT all NAT and port forwarding settings only affect IPv4.) * after a lot of trial-and-error, but I logged all config chages and am pretty confident this is all it takes. AFAICT Xfone gives me a /64 block. Sounds enough to me, but I've seen claims that ideally I should want /48 or /56 to allow subnetting (really? all this fuss to go from 2^32 homes to 2^48 homes? what a waste. RFC1606 notwithstanding, I haven't yet bought 2^64 individually addressable atoms...) I'll be happy to answer any questions. ---- Problems: (A) Speed on fastest plan is not so fastest? For half a year I was on Xfone's 30/40 plan and Bezeq's "T40" plan, which is their brilliantly devious marketing speak for "at least 20Mbps and *at most* 40Mbps" ? in practice I was getting around 20, but technically can't complain. On the upside I'm always seeing a bit over the promised 3Mbps upload. But yesterday I noticed that Bezeq upgraded me to "T100" ? without asking or telling me! ? though for same 85/NIS price (at least till first year ends), so I upgraded Xfone to the "all speeds above" plan for only 10NIS more ? and now I'm getting around 30Mbps (and same 3Mbps upload). I don't know what's the physical ADSL limit here but modem reports "B0 Line Rate - Upstream (Kbps): 5021, Downstream (Kbps): 49231" so I could hope for a bit more? Oh well, it's still faster and cheaper than I had in Los Angeles :-) I'm mostly mentioning this because I've read a friend on facebook saying a similar thing - that he was happy with Xfone until he upgraded to the highest speed where they didn't deliver. [UPDATE: a year later, I'm still on T100 & 100 plans, but regularly measuring only 15~17Mbps. Time to complain and/or downgrade... BTW, Nezeq's site advertises T100 as "maximum 100M minimum 0.01M"!?] (B) Internet connectivity lost several times a day (wifi still thinks it's connected, but packets don't go anywhere), easily fixed by disabling and re-enabling wifi on the device. Happens on both laptops and android tablet. This is lousy, I've never really managed to debug this but I'm pretty sure Bezeq's router wifi is to blame, and not Xfone: - It can happen on one device while others have fine connectivity. Toggling wifi helps. Resetting the router helps. - Most tellingly, a 2nd ethernet-chained wifi router behaves quite reliably. However, that one only supports IPv4, so theoretically the problem could be IPv6-specific (and due to no NAT, could involve the ISP). - Anecdotally, it happens less after I reduced the number of wifi networks Bezeq's router maintains from 6 ({encrypted net, open guest net, Bezeq Free captive portal net} X {2.4GHz, 5Ghz}) to 2 or 3... ---- Brain dump & tips on starting with IPv6 [I imagine Shachar knows all this but for others, including future me ;-]: test & check address: http://ip6.me, http://ipv6-test.com, http://nmapv6.tools.uebi.net/ speed tests: http://speedtest.comcast.net/, http://proof.ovh.net/, http://sixy.ch/tags/speed, http://ipv6-speedtest.net/ commands: ping6, curl -6, nmap -6. host prints both addresses if known, -6 only affects how it talks to dhs server. For a remote shell to test connectivity, Digital ocean is probably simplest (look for IPv6 checkbox when creating a droplet, available in most their locations). IPv6 gives you several address, some local, some periodically rotated [https://home.regit.org/2011/04/ipv6-privacy/]. To get the public one: ip -o addr | grep 'global' | grep -v temporary | grep -v deprecated | sed -n 's/.*inet6 *\([a-f0-9:]\+\).*/\1/p' Dynamic DNS (TODO - I still haven't got it to work): - https://dns.he.net They're nice even for ipv4 dyndns - free for 50 zones with no "click here to keep your host alive" - BUT they only serve DNS without handing out any domain names, so you must own a domain already. mainline ddclient still don't support IPv6. A patch has been floating since 2011. ez-ipudate has 'heipv6tb' mode but that's for he.net's tunnel broker, not their dns. inadyn-mt supports IPv6. https://github.com/infothrill/python-dyndnsc supports IPv6. - https://www.duiadns.net/ipv6-for-lan-feature - cool feature but has to run on router. - https://nsupdate.info/ - Just saw them, promising. Recommends python-dyndnsc. - dhis.org, updates by dhis-client. needs one-time $5 donation and limited to 3 hosts (but could run your own dhis-server). From shachar at shemesh.biz Thu Jan 28 16:05:04 2016 From: shachar at shemesh.biz (Shachar Shemesh) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:05:04 +0200 Subject: IPv6 tunnels [was: Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael] In-Reply-To: <20160126150427.GT7630@lemon.cohens.org.il> References: <20160126150427.GT7630@lemon.cohens.org.il> Message-ID: <29881c2b91a2add9f8c4be96c1179c9a@shemesh.biz> On 26/01/2016 17:04, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 03:57:01PM +0200, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: > >> Hi all. Do we have one or two?? Want to get rid of NAT (partially). > > Off-topic, but I saw the following error today in my mail log: > > dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host aspmx.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4013:c01::1a] said: > 550-5.7.1 [2001:0:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx] Our system has detected that this 550-5.7.1 message does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regard ing PTR records > 550-5.7.1 and authentication. Please review > 550-5.7.1 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=ipv6_authentication_error [1] for more > 550 5.7.1 information. > > Looking further I noticed that I installed the package miredo and forgot > about it. Perhaps I should set up a server somewhere and link my clients > to it. Some of my requests to gmail go through it. > > And on the same note: SoftLayer still doesn't provide IPV6 addresses. I disabled IPv6 on my mail server because I just couldn't get past this problem. Reverse lookup is fine. Domain has SPF that lists my server. Google still won't accept my emails. If you solve this, please let me know how. Shachar Links: ------ [1] https://support.google.com/mail/?p=ipv6_authentication_error -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w1 at zak.co.il Thu Jan 28 16:49:48 2016 From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:49:48 +0200 Subject: More pieces of the IPv6 puzzle (Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael) In-Reply-To: References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> Message-ID: <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 15:55 +0200, Beni Cherniavsky-Paskin wrote: > Brain dump & tips on starting with IPv6 [I imagine Shachar knows all > this but for others, including future me ;-]: A nice brain dump! To complement the brain dump, I'd like to see advice, from anyone who has experience with this, about securing the hosts against intruders via both IPv4 and IPv6 - in other words, per host firewall. The reasons for this are: 1. The firewall in Bezeq's router is turned off in Beni's setup. 2. Those of us, who are not willing to switch to Xfone yet wish to breathe the IPv6 pixie dust, will need to use IPv6 over IPv4 tunnelling. It means that the computer running the tunnel will need an IPv6 firewall around the local tunnel's endpoint. Another piece of advice desired is as follows. How to configure the home network so that: 1. It'll use IPv6 internally. 2. Communicate with the outside world via both IPv4 and IPv6 tunnel. 3. When your ISP finally starts to support IPv6, switching the home network to pure IPv6 would be piece of cake. --- Omer -- According to Jean Boutcher, I am "a baby man, whining". My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Thu Jan 28 19:38:54 2016 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 19:38:54 +0200 Subject: More pieces of the IPv6 puzzle (Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael) In-Reply-To: <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> Message-ID: It is of course highly recommended to figure out a way to use the firewall in the router in IPv6 mode too.... Changing your setup to local fws only makes you both more vulnerable to attack and the total setup much harder to manage.... In a worst (or best depends on how you look at it) case scenario I would even say put a computer with 2 NICs between your network and the Internet and setup iptables/nftables/your favorite firewall there... (I wonder if a raspberry pi would be able to pull that off) Regards, Eliyahu - ????? 2016-01-28 16:49 GMT+02:00 Omer Zak : > On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 15:55 +0200, Beni Cherniavsky-Paskin wrote: > >> Brain dump & tips on starting with IPv6 [I imagine Shachar knows all >> this but for others, including future me ;-]: > > A nice brain dump! > > To complement the brain dump, I'd like to see advice, from anyone who > has experience with this, about securing the hosts against intruders via > both IPv4 and IPv6 - in other words, per host firewall. > > The reasons for this are: > 1. The firewall in Bezeq's router is turned off in Beni's setup. > 2. Those of us, who are not willing to switch to Xfone yet wish to > breathe the IPv6 pixie dust, will need to use IPv6 over IPv4 tunnelling. > It means that the computer running the tunnel will need an IPv6 firewall > around the local tunnel's endpoint. > > Another piece of advice desired is as follows. > How to configure the home network so that: > 1. It'll use IPv6 internally. > 2. Communicate with the outside world via both IPv4 and IPv6 tunnel. > 3. When your ISP finally starts to support IPv6, switching the home > network to pure IPv6 would be piece of cake. > > --- Omer > > > -- > According to Jean Boutcher, I am "a baby man, whining". > My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ > > My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. > They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which > I may be affiliated in any way. > WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il From beni.cherniavsky at gmail.com Thu Jan 28 20:37:22 2016 From: beni.cherniavsky at gmail.com (Beni Cherniavsky-Paskin) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:37:22 +0200 Subject: More pieces of the IPv6 puzzle (Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael) In-Reply-To: References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> Message-ID: Due to bezeq's modem's wifi unreliability, I'm mostly connecting to my own wifi router anyway. I'd have switched to it completely and use a firewall there, except it's old and doesn't support IPv6 at all, and I haven't gotten around to buy a new one and/or install *WRT. I'm also a general believer in securing my laptops rather than my network, as I'm connecting to any and all wifis when traveling, and I've been deliberately running an unsecured wifi for years, valuing helping neighbors & passers-by over security (nowdays there is no dillema I'm shifting to separate guest networks). To some degree, the desire of dropping NAT and having world-addressable machines inherently conflicts with the desire to have a firewall. But the wisdom of all this is of course debatable. From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Thu Jan 28 21:19:08 2016 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 21:19:08 +0200 Subject: More pieces of the IPv6 puzzle (Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael) In-Reply-To: References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> Message-ID: 2016-01-28 20:37 GMT+02:00 Beni Cherniavsky-Paskin : > Due to bezeq's modem's wifi unreliability, I'm mostly connecting to my > own wifi router anyway. > I'd have switched to it completely and use a firewall there, except > it's old and doesn't support IPv6 at all, and I haven't gotten around > to buy a new one and/or install *WRT. I also use bezeq boxes as modem-only and have an OpenWRT box behind them, TP-Link makes very nice boxes that support OpenWRT (their cheapest model is the 80NIS 741ND which is very good alue for money) > > I'm also a general believer in securing my laptops rather than my > network, as I'm connecting to any and all wifis when traveling, > and I've been deliberately running an unsecured wifi for years, > valuing helping neighbors & passers-by over security (nowdays there is > no dillema I'm shifting to separate guest networks). No question that your laptop should be secure but that is no reason to leave your desktop, printer, NAS, home automation, home security etc. unsecured. > > To some degree, the desire of dropping NAT and having > world-addressable machines inherently conflicts with the desire to > have a firewall. That is non-sense, I worked at several locations with IP addresses as water and just because we had all our machines (even on WiFi) have world-addressable IPs didn't mean we didn't have a firewall to limit access from the outside to be only through the paths we allowed. There is also no real valid reason to allow the outside world to be able to scan your inside network.... NAT always sort provided that out of the box but a good firewall does that even without NAT. > > But the wisdom of all this is of course debatable. From amos.shapira at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 11:52:27 2016 From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:52:27 +1100 Subject: More pieces of the IPv6 puzzle (Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael) In-Reply-To: References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> Message-ID: Does anyone here have experience with public IPv6 in the cloud (AWS/DigitalOcean/Google, in decreasing order of preference)? On 29 Jan 2016 6:19 a.m., "E.S. Rosenberg" wrote: 2016-01-28 20:37 GMT+02:00 Beni Cherniavsky-Paskin < beni.cherniavsky at gmail.com>: > Due to bezeq's modem's wifi unreliability, I'm mostly connecting to my > own wifi router anyway. > I'd have switched to it completely and use a firewall there, except > it's old and doesn't support IPv6 at all, and I haven't gotten around > to buy a new one and/or install *WRT. I also use bezeq boxes as modem-only and have an OpenWRT box behind them, TP-Link makes very nice boxes that support OpenWRT (their cheapest model is the 80NIS 741ND which is very good alue for money) > > I'm also a general believer in securing my laptops rather than my > network, as I'm connecting to any and all wifis when traveling, > and I've been deliberately running an unsecured wifi for years, > valuing helping neighbors & passers-by over security (nowdays there is > no dillema I'm shifting to separate guest networks). No question that your laptop should be secure but that is no reason to leave your desktop, printer, NAS, home automation, home security etc. unsecured. > > To some degree, the desire of dropping NAT and having > world-addressable machines inherently conflicts with the desire to > have a firewall. That is non-sense, I worked at several locations with IP addresses as water and just because we had all our machines (even on WiFi) have world-addressable IPs didn't mean we didn't have a firewall to limit access from the outside to be only through the paths we allowed. There is also no real valid reason to allow the outside world to be able to scan your inside network.... NAT always sort provided that out of the box but a good firewall does that even without NAT. > > But the wisdom of all this is of course debatable. _______________________________________________ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoff at QuiteLikely.com Fri Jan 29 12:13:53 2016 From: geoff at QuiteLikely.com (Geoff Shang) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 10:13:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: More pieces of the IPv6 puzzle (Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael) In-Reply-To: References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Amos Shapira wrote: > Does anyone here have experience with public IPv6 in the cloud > (AWS/DigitalOcean/Google, in decreasing order of preference)? Regarding AWS, the word seems to be that the only way you can make an EC2 instance available via IPv6 is to put a loadbalancer in front of it, and there is even some uncertainty about this much. https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=536049 Don't know about either of the other two. Have used it in Linode and Gandi Hosting with no problems. Geoff. From yuval at y3xz.com Fri Jan 29 15:25:27 2016 From: yuval at y3xz.com (Yuval Adam) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 15:25:27 +0200 Subject: More pieces of the IPv6 puzzle (Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael) In-Reply-To: References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> Message-ID: <56AB6847.3090100@y3xz.com> On 01/29/2016 11:52 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: > > Does anyone here have experience with public IPv6 in the cloud > (AWS/DigitalOcean/Google, in decreasing order of preference)? > Yes, I run my personal server on Digital Ocean + native IPv6 and it works great. Unfortunately, IPv6 support on AWS is partial, at best - If you use Route53 for your DNS records you can assign AAAA records to domains, but the Route53 nameservers do not publish any IPv6 addresses so it's impossible to reach them on IPv6-only. EC2 instances are not assigned IPv6 addresses, and you have to route through an ELB if you want that. No information on Google Cloud. From amos.shapira at gmail.com Sat Jan 30 18:42:35 2016 From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 03:42:35 +1100 Subject: More pieces of the IPv6 puzzle (Re: ISP with native ipv6 in isarael) In-Reply-To: <56AB6847.3090100@y3xz.com> References: <569506AD.9010004@y3xz.com> <56953550.2000106@shemesh.biz> <1453992588.6187.110.camel@zak.co.il> <56AB6847.3090100@y3xz.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone. On 30 Jan 2016 12:43 a.m., "Yuval Adam" wrote: > > > On 01/29/2016 11:52 AM, Amos Shapira wrote: > > > > Does anyone here have experience with public IPv6 in the cloud > > (AWS/DigitalOcean/Google, in decreasing order of preference)? > > > > Yes, I run my personal server on Digital Ocean + native IPv6 and it > works great. > > Unfortunately, IPv6 support on AWS is partial, at best - > If you use Route53 for your DNS records you can assign AAAA records to > domains, but the Route53 nameservers do not publish any IPv6 addresses > so it's impossible to reach them on IPv6-only. > EC2 instances are not assigned IPv6 addresses, and you have to route > through an ELB if you want that. > > No information on Google Cloud. > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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