From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 04:58:15 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 11:58:15 +1000
Subject: single threaded web servers
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I'm curious - what's the background of this question? What's the original
goal that led you to ask this?

On 28 June 2016 at 18:04, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> i tried searching the web but got no result
>
> what web servers other than node.js are single threaded ?
> anyone has experience with one ?
> is there one in which the cgi is in c++ ?
>
>
>
>
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From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 15:56:22 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:56:22 +0300
Subject: ARUTZ 10 site on Linux
Message-ID: <20160701155622.538a3e75@shlomo1.solomon>

On the ARUTZ 10 site - http://10tv.nana10.co.il/ - you can watch the
current program (live feed) or choose from an archive of recorded
programs stored on the site.

For the past 3 days, I can no longer see archived programs - only the
live feed. I've tried on Firefox and Opera.

On both the live feed and the recorded programs, there's a notice at
the bottom of the screen saying "Powered by CAST TIME".

In Windows the site works as usual.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

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From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 17:58:05 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:58:05 +0300
Subject: ARUTZ 10 site on Linux
In-Reply-To: <CAD_ZK668n96EFt3f5LL7Qf3BTKH1PRB3HTJ94NhUJWvQ=y+0eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160701155622.538a3e75@shlomo1.solomon>
 <CAD_ZK668n96EFt3f5LL7Qf3BTKH1PRB3HTJ94NhUJWvQ=y+0eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160701175805.534d9516@shlomo1.solomon>

Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't make any difference. BTW - I
don't use an ad blocker and have made no changes to my system in the
last few days so I don't know why the VOD stopped working for me.

As I wrote, I DO see the live feed but not the VOD.

Since you referred only to the live feed, could you check to see if the
VOD works for you?

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:05:51 +0300
Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il> wrote:

> I use Google Chrome to watch the live feed every morning.
> Both the Live feed and the VOD use Cast Time.
> Maybe you've blocked a specific element with an Add Blocker?
> 
> Try clearing your browsing history for the last week. Remember it
> deletes passwords and form data.
> 
> Amichai
> On Jul 1, 2016 3:56 PM, "Shlomo Solomon" <shlomo.solomon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On the ARUTZ 10 site - http://10tv.nana10.co.il/ - you can watch the
> > current program (live feed) or choose from an archive of recorded
> > programs stored on the site.
> >
> > For the past 3 days, I can no longer see archived programs - only
> > the live feed. I've tried on Firefox and Opera.
> >
> > On both the live feed and the recorded programs, there's a notice at
> > the bottom of the screen saying "Powered by CAST TIME".
> >
> > In Windows the site works as usual.
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
> >
> > --
> > Shlomo Solomon
> > http://the-solomons.net
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From erez0001 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 10:49:35 2016
From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:49:35 +0300
Subject: single threaded web servers
In-Reply-To: <CAF9n_WVtmkSqyu5tBBwZn2P2cbPJ4aJjMxGJcQfaRk=53QMLsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wkU6Zi0opgNX9jh_nnZ=5G3QOKtCWk4wdyxfvhV37hfCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVtmkSqyu5tBBwZn2P2cbPJ4aJjMxGJcQfaRk=53QMLsg@mail.gmail.com>
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doing some research on servers i found out that i can handle more
connections simultaneously as single threaded.
on thread per connection i have a huge overhead, just think of the default
2MB stack per connection - 1000 connections is 2GB ram just for stack.
however as single threaded, i can server connections by the 10,000s(or even
a million).

later to my surprise, i found out that that was exactly one of the main
considerations behind node.js

but node.js requires code in js. and i am more of a c++ guy
(and of course c++ is more efficient than js)

C++ did a long way and now modern c++ (i.e. c++11 / c++14 ) is on par with
other modern languages.
the idea behind c++11/14 was to make it simple for beginners, while still
keeping the option to control every bit for advanced users.
one thing i hear people hate about c and c++ is its memory handling
(malloc/free or new/delete), however in forgot about it years ago using
shared_ptr ( now in c++11 and before that, use boost instead).. you can
still control when it is freed if you want (in countrary to
garbage-disposal-thread languages). as a matter of fact, i use this a lot -
i create an object that cleans up,. and no matter how i exit the function
it gets cleaned up.

so i wanted a node.c++ instead of writing my own

in theory simple single threaded web server usage code could look something
like:

int main()
{
  auto server=HttpServer::create(80,[](Request &request)
    {
      if (request.header=="HelloWorld")
      {
         HttpResponse(200,"<H1>Hello, world</h1>");
      } else {
        File::Read(request,header,[](bool success, string body)
          {
             if (success)
               HttpResponse(400,body);
          } else {
               HttpResponse(404);
          }
        );
      }
    }
  );
}





On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm curious - what's the background of this question? What's the original
> goal that led you to ask this?
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 18:04, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i tried searching the web but got no result
>>
>> what web servers other than node.js are single threaded ?
>> anyone has experience with one ?
>> is there one in which the cgi is in c++ ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> <http://au.linkedin.com/in/gliderflyer>
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From guy.choo.keren at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 14:00:41 2016
From: guy.choo.keren at gmail.com (guy keren)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 14:00:41 +0300
Subject: single threaded web servers
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wkKP1vPZw2Qqnz-LwvHuQuKXxFf2svJy5rsxrXRjP3Edg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wkU6Zi0opgNX9jh_nnZ=5G3QOKtCWk4wdyxfvhV37hfCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVtmkSqyu5tBBwZn2P2cbPJ4aJjMxGJcQfaRk=53QMLsg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <57779ED9.7000102@gmail.com>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thttpd

and

https://www.lighttpd.net/

both existed before anyone used javascript on server side, as far as i know

(and they are written in C, not C++)

--guy

On 07/02/2016 10:49 AM, Erez D wrote:
> doing some research on servers i found out that i can handle more
> connections simultaneously as single threaded.
> on thread per connection i have a huge overhead, just think of the
> default 2MB stack per connection - 1000 connections is 2GB ram just for
> stack.
> however as single threaded, i can server connections by the 10,000s(or
> even a million).
>
> later to my surprise, i found out that that was exactly one of the main
> considerations behind node.js
>
> but node.js requires code in js. and i am more of a c++ guy
> (and of course c++ is more efficient than js)
>
> C++ did a long way and now modern c++ (i.e. c++11 / c++14 ) is on par
> with other modern languages.
> the idea behind c++11/14 was to make it simple for beginners, while
> still keeping the option to control every bit for advanced users.
> one thing i hear people hate about c and c++ is its memory handling
> (malloc/free or new/delete), however in forgot about it years ago using
> shared_ptr ( now in c++11 and before that, use boost instead).. you can
> still control when it is freed if you want (in countrary to
> garbage-disposal-thread languages). as a matter of fact, i use this a
> lot - i create an object that cleans up,. and no matter how i exit the
> function it gets cleaned up.
>
> so i wanted a node.c++ instead of writing my own
>
> in theory simple single threaded web server usage code could look
> something like:
>
> int main()
> {
>    auto server=HttpServer::create(80,[](Request &request)
>      {
>        if (request.header=="HelloWorld")
>        {
>           HttpResponse(200,"<H1>Hello, world</h1>");
>        } else {
>          File::Read(request,header,[](bool success, string body)
>            {
>               if (success)
>                 HttpResponse(400,body);
>            } else {
>                 HttpResponse(404);
>            }
>          );
>        }
>      }
>    );
> }
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com
> <mailto:amos.shapira at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm curious - what's the background of this question? What's the
>     original goal that led you to ask this?
>
>     On 28 June 2016 at 18:04, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:erez0001 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         i tried searching the web but got no result
>
>         what web servers other than node.js are single threaded ?
>         anyone has experience with one ?
>         is there one in which the cgi is in c++ ?
>
>
>
>
>         _______________________________________________
>         Linux-il mailing list
>         Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il <mailto:Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>         http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
>
>
>
>     --
>     <http://au.linkedin.com/in/gliderflyer>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>



From erez0001 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 18:41:53 2016
From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 18:41:53 +0300
Subject: single threaded web servers
In-Reply-To: <57779ED9.7000102@gmail.com>
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 <CAF9n_WVtmkSqyu5tBBwZn2P2cbPJ4aJjMxGJcQfaRk=53QMLsg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMUp3wkKP1vPZw2Qqnz-LwvHuQuKXxFf2svJy5rsxrXRjP3Edg@mail.gmail.com>
 <57779ED9.7000102@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, guy keren <guy.choo.keren at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thttpd

dont know if it fits my requierments but last version dated 2014

>
>
> and
>
> https://www.lighttpd.net/

uses fastcgi. fastcgi is multithreaded.

>
>
> both existed before anyone used javascript on server side, as far as i know
>
> (and they are written in C, not C++)
>
> --guy
>
>
> On 07/02/2016 10:49 AM, Erez D wrote:
>
>> doing some research on servers i found out that i can handle more
>> connections simultaneously as single threaded.
>> on thread per connection i have a huge overhead, just think of the
>> default 2MB stack per connection - 1000 connections is 2GB ram just for
>> stack.
>> however as single threaded, i can server connections by the 10,000s(or
>> even a million).
>>
>> later to my surprise, i found out that that was exactly one of the main
>> considerations behind node.js
>>
>> but node.js requires code in js. and i am more of a c++ guy
>> (and of course c++ is more efficient than js)
>>
>> C++ did a long way and now modern c++ (i.e. c++11 / c++14 ) is on par
>> with other modern languages.
>> the idea behind c++11/14 was to make it simple for beginners, while
>> still keeping the option to control every bit for advanced users.
>> one thing i hear people hate about c and c++ is its memory handling
>> (malloc/free or new/delete), however in forgot about it years ago using
>> shared_ptr ( now in c++11 and before that, use boost instead).. you can
>> still control when it is freed if you want (in countrary to
>> garbage-disposal-thread languages). as a matter of fact, i use this a
>> lot - i create an object that cleans up,. and no matter how i exit the
>> function it gets cleaned up.
>>
>> so i wanted a node.c++ instead of writing my own
>>
>> in theory simple single threaded web server usage code could look
>> something like:
>>
>> int main()
>> {
>>    auto server=HttpServer::create(80,[](Request &request)
>>      {
>>        if (request.header=="HelloWorld")
>>        {
>>           HttpResponse(200,"<H1>Hello, world</h1>");
>>        } else {
>>          File::Read(request,header,[](bool success, string body)
>>            {
>>               if (success)
>>                 HttpResponse(400,body);
>>            } else {
>>                 HttpResponse(404);
>>            }
>>          );
>>        }
>>      }
>>    );
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com
>> <mailto:amos.shapira at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     I'm curious - what's the background of this question? What's the
>>     original goal that led you to ask this?
>>
>>     On 28 June 2016 at 18:04, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:erez0001 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         i tried searching the web but got no result
>>
>>         what web servers other than node.js are single threaded ?
>>         anyone has experience with one ?
>>         is there one in which the cgi is in c++ ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         Linux-il mailing list
>>         Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il <mailto:Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>>         http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     <http://au.linkedin.com/in/gliderflyer>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
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From guy.choo.keren at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 20:41:54 2016
From: guy.choo.keren at gmail.com (guy keren)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 20:41:54 +0300
Subject: single threaded web servers
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you didn't say you needed dynamic content - your example "code" seemed 
to focus on serving static content.

try to be more specific about what you need

--guy

On 07/02/2016 06:41 PM, Erez D wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, guy keren <guy.choo.keren at gmail.com
> <mailto:guy.choo.keren at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thttpd
>
> dont know if it fits my requierments but last version dated 2014
>
>
>
>     and
>
>     https://www.lighttpd.net/
>
> uses fastcgi. fastcgi is multithreaded.
>
>
>
>     both existed before anyone used javascript on server side, as far as
>     i know
>
>     (and they are written in C, not C++)
>
>     --guy
>
>
>     On 07/02/2016 10:49 AM, Erez D wrote:
>
>         doing some research on servers i found out that i can handle more
>         connections simultaneously as single threaded.
>         on thread per connection i have a huge overhead, just think of the
>         default 2MB stack per connection - 1000 connections is 2GB ram
>         just for
>         stack.
>         however as single threaded, i can server connections by the
>         10,000s(or
>         even a million).
>
>         later to my surprise, i found out that that was exactly one of
>         the main
>         considerations behind node.js
>
>         but node.js requires code in js. and i am more of a c++ guy
>         (and of course c++ is more efficient than js)
>
>         C++ did a long way and now modern c++ (i.e. c++11 / c++14 ) is
>         on par
>         with other modern languages.
>         the idea behind c++11/14 was to make it simple for beginners, while
>         still keeping the option to control every bit for advanced users.
>         one thing i hear people hate about c and c++ is its memory handling
>         (malloc/free or new/delete), however in forgot about it years
>         ago using
>         shared_ptr ( now in c++11 and before that, use boost instead)..
>         you can
>         still control when it is freed if you want (in countrary to
>         garbage-disposal-thread languages). as a matter of fact, i use
>         this a
>         lot - i create an object that cleans up,. and no matter how i
>         exit the
>         function it gets cleaned up.
>
>         so i wanted a node.c++ instead of writing my own
>
>         in theory simple single threaded web server usage code could look
>         something like:
>
>         int main()
>         {
>             auto server=HttpServer::create(80,[](Request &request)
>               {
>                 if (request.header=="HelloWorld")
>                 {
>                    HttpResponse(200,"<H1>Hello, world</h1>");
>                 } else {
>                   File::Read(request,header,[](bool success, string body)
>                     {
>                        if (success)
>                          HttpResponse(400,body);
>                     } else {
>                          HttpResponse(404);
>                     }
>                   );
>                 }
>               }
>             );
>         }
>
>
>
>
>         On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Amos Shapira
>         <amos.shapira at gmail.com <mailto:amos.shapira at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:amos.shapira at gmail.com <mailto:amos.shapira at gmail.com>>>
>         wrote:
>
>              I'm curious - what's the background of this question?
>         What's the
>              original goal that led you to ask this?
>
>              On 28 June 2016 at 18:04, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:erez0001 at gmail.com>
>              <mailto:erez0001 at gmail.com <mailto:erez0001 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>                  i tried searching the web but got no result
>
>                  what web servers other than node.js are single threaded ?
>                  anyone has experience with one ?
>                  is there one in which the cgi is in c++ ?
>
>
>
>
>                  _______________________________________________
>                  Linux-il mailing list
>         Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il <mailto:Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>         <mailto:Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il <mailto:Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>>
>         http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 00:13:13 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 07:13:13 +1000
Subject: single threaded web servers
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wkKP1vPZw2Qqnz-LwvHuQuKXxFf2svJy5rsxrXRjP3Edg@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for the explanation. I like this.
How would a single-threaded process take advantage of muti- CPU?
On 2 Jul 2016 5:49 PM, "Erez D" <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> doing some research on servers i found out that i can handle more
> connections simultaneously as single threaded.
> on thread per connection i have a huge overhead, just think of the default
> 2MB stack per connection - 1000 connections is 2GB ram just for stack.
> however as single threaded, i can server connections by the 10,000s(or
> even a million).
>
> later to my surprise, i found out that that was exactly one of the main
> considerations behind node.js
>
> but node.js requires code in js. and i am more of a c++ guy
> (and of course c++ is more efficient than js)
>
> C++ did a long way and now modern c++ (i.e. c++11 / c++14 ) is on par with
> other modern languages.
> the idea behind c++11/14 was to make it simple for beginners, while still
> keeping the option to control every bit for advanced users.
> one thing i hear people hate about c and c++ is its memory handling
> (malloc/free or new/delete), however in forgot about it years ago using
> shared_ptr ( now in c++11 and before that, use boost instead).. you can
> still control when it is freed if you want (in countrary to
> garbage-disposal-thread languages). as a matter of fact, i use this a lot -
> i create an object that cleans up,. and no matter how i exit the function
> it gets cleaned up.
>
> so i wanted a node.c++ instead of writing my own
>
> in theory simple single threaded web server usage code could look
> something like:
>
> int main()
> {
>   auto server=HttpServer::create(80,[](Request &request)
>     {
>       if (request.header=="HelloWorld")
>       {
>          HttpResponse(200,"<H1>Hello, world</h1>");
>       } else {
>         File::Read(request,header,[](bool success, string body)
>           {
>              if (success)
>                HttpResponse(400,body);
>           } else {
>                HttpResponse(404);
>           }
>         );
>       }
>     }
>   );
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm curious - what's the background of this question? What's the original
>> goal that led you to ask this?
>>
>> On 28 June 2016 at 18:04, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i tried searching the web but got no result
>>>
>>> what web servers other than node.js are single threaded ?
>>> anyone has experience with one ?
>>> is there one in which the cgi is in c++ ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> <http://au.linkedin.com/in/gliderflyer>
>>
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Jul  3 01:32:26 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 18:32:26 -0400
Subject: single threaded web servers
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wkKP1vPZw2Qqnz-LwvHuQuKXxFf2svJy5rsxrXRjP3Edg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wkU6Zi0opgNX9jh_nnZ=5G3QOKtCWk4wdyxfvhV37hfCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVtmkSqyu5tBBwZn2P2cbPJ4aJjMxGJcQfaRk=53QMLsg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMUp3wkKP1vPZw2Qqnz-LwvHuQuKXxFf2svJy5rsxrXRjP3Edg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160702183226.6807fabe@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:49:35 +0300
Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:

 
> but node.js requires code in js. and i am more of a c++ guy
> (and of course c++ is more efficient than js)

Not just any Javascript, but Javascript with gratuitous callbacks, in
order that nothing blocks anything else. After programming for a few
days in Node.js, I felt like I was turning a 10 meter garden hose
inside out.
 
SteveT

Steve Litt
June 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother?
http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Jul  3 01:35:10 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 18:35:10 -0400
Subject: single threaded web servers
In-Reply-To: <CAF9n_WVLfgG3_XDpZce_txDmhB3XG29JuLRL98DAd+5jmCcXBw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wkU6Zi0opgNX9jh_nnZ=5G3QOKtCWk4wdyxfvhV37hfCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVtmkSqyu5tBBwZn2P2cbPJ4aJjMxGJcQfaRk=53QMLsg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMUp3wkKP1vPZw2Qqnz-LwvHuQuKXxFf2svJy5rsxrXRjP3Edg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVLfgG3_XDpZce_txDmhB3XG29JuLRL98DAd+5jmCcXBw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160702183510.10db2afc@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 07:13:13 +1000
Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation. I like this.
> How would a single-threaded process take advantage of muti- CPU?

Threads is just one method of multiprocessing. IIRC, back in the day
Apache multiprocessed by forking a new process for every HTTP
connection. Certainly those processes would be apportioned among the
many processors or cores.
 
SteveT

Steve Litt
June 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother?
http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb


From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 05:13:51 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 12:13:51 +1000
Subject: single threaded web servers
In-Reply-To: <20160702183510.10db2afc@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <CAMUp3wkU6Zi0opgNX9jh_nnZ=5G3QOKtCWk4wdyxfvhV37hfCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVtmkSqyu5tBBwZn2P2cbPJ4aJjMxGJcQfaRk=53QMLsg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMUp3wkKP1vPZw2Qqnz-LwvHuQuKXxFf2svJy5rsxrXRjP3Edg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVLfgG3_XDpZce_txDmhB3XG29JuLRL98DAd+5jmCcXBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160702183510.10db2afc@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <CAF9n_WW+WxN46sbhy8aETipsOqHtD4DPTKDumP-fr-6-hQvWVg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes I know it's possible to fork multiple processes with one thread in each
and all that jazz.

I'm asking in the context of Erez' response - if he runs single-threaded
code on a multiprocessor hardware, how would he take advantage of more than
one processor core?


On 3 July 2016 at 08:35, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 07:13:13 +1000
> Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the explanation. I like this.
> > How would a single-threaded process take advantage of muti- CPU?
>
> Threads is just one method of multiprocessing. IIRC, back in the day
> Apache multiprocessed by forking a new process for every HTTP
> connection. Certainly those processes would be apportioned among the
> many processors or cores.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> June 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother?
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
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>



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From linux-il at shimi.net  Sun Jul  3 09:33:45 2016
From: linux-il at shimi.net (shimi)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 09:33:45 +0300
Subject: single threaded web servers
In-Reply-To: <CAF9n_WW+WxN46sbhy8aETipsOqHtD4DPTKDumP-fr-6-hQvWVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wkU6Zi0opgNX9jh_nnZ=5G3QOKtCWk4wdyxfvhV37hfCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVtmkSqyu5tBBwZn2P2cbPJ4aJjMxGJcQfaRk=53QMLsg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMUp3wkKP1vPZw2Qqnz-LwvHuQuKXxFf2svJy5rsxrXRjP3Edg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WVLfgG3_XDpZce_txDmhB3XG29JuLRL98DAd+5jmCcXBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160702183510.10db2afc@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <CAF9n_WW+WxN46sbhy8aETipsOqHtD4DPTKDumP-fr-6-hQvWVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKnt4U_Shkvfzyfj1LPxbtHq+uReS2ErfGB+oB4p+uiwQ2hWYw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes I know it's possible to fork multiple processes with one thread in
> each and all that jazz.
>
> I'm asking in the context of Erez' response - if he runs single-threaded
> code on a multiprocessor hardware, how would he take advantage of more than
> one processor core?
>
>
It sounds as if from some reason the term 'single threaded' has been used
throughout this discussion while in fact the discussion, IMHO, was actually
about 'event based' as the connection processing mechanism of the servers.
If you replace 'single threaded' with 'events based' and leave the
assumption of 'just a single thread' out (which doesn't necessarily mean
'one thread per connection'), you can then realize that you can use event
based servers... with multiple threads - one per each CPU core, and then
you're not limited to one core's power. Some servers are even smart enough
to figure out the right number automatically....
http://nginx.org/en/docs/ngx_core_module.html#worker_processes (which
happens to be my preferable web server for many years now).

And... you can always "why not write an Nginx module in C?" [1]

-- Shimi

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzkRVzciAZg - please don't take this as
if I agree with every word mentioned there; it's just for the fun of it,
and it's kind of on-topic.
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From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 02:36:45 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 09:36:45 +1000
Subject: Questions for network/hardware engineer candidates?
Message-ID: <CAF9n_WUJwaDoR-2vtvLL6D5Xbe8Pg_m40av+tiPH3YipW_gtJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

My workplace is looking to fill in a position for a hardware/network
person, someone to look mostly after the office network.

Do people here have ideas about where to look for good interview
questions/exercises for such a role?

Thanks,

--Amos
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From govershay at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 03:04:46 2016
From: govershay at gmail.com (Shay Gover)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 03:04:46 +0300
Subject: Questions for network/hardware engineer candidates?
In-Reply-To: <CAF9n_WUJwaDoR-2vtvLL6D5Xbe8Pg_m40av+tiPH3YipW_gtJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF9n_WUJwaDoR-2vtvLL6D5Xbe8Pg_m40av+tiPH3YipW_gtJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANM5d8eSV=NWL=G4Kei-RL64UNxUCyp0HNupNCNhYfyqnuEGfw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Amos,

Please define Hardware and Network. Server? PCs? PC Technician? Something
else?

Shay

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My workplace is looking to fill in a position for a hardware/network
> person, someone to look mostly after the office network.
>
> Do people here have ideas about where to look for good interview
> questions/exercises for such a role?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Amos
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
>
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From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 05:49:18 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:49:18 +1000
Subject: Questions for network/hardware engineer candidates?
In-Reply-To: <CANM5d8eSV=NWL=G4Kei-RL64UNxUCyp0HNupNCNhYfyqnuEGfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF9n_WUJwaDoR-2vtvLL6D5Xbe8Pg_m40av+tiPH3YipW_gtJQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANM5d8eSV=NWL=G4Kei-RL64UNxUCyp0HNupNCNhYfyqnuEGfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF9n_WX4jSoetUvDPn29eY-hL8X6-U9m0ENGf2EoXokTY2F=hg@mail.gmail.com>

Almost all our laptops are Mac Book pros, they don't require much handling
(usually if there is a problem then just take it to the Apple store a
couple of blocks away).

I'm after someone who can take care of our fibre-optic office line, modems,
WiFi, LAN and the router (the router is actually fun to work with - it runs
VyOS on a Dell rack), the card entrance system (Lenel).

I'm not quiet concerned with them being experts about the specific hardware
we have but trying to estimate their aptitude in attacking hardware/network
problems and troubleshooting by themselves, without me having to keep
holding their hand.

On 5 July 2016 at 10:04, Shay Gover <govershay at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Amos,
>
> Please define Hardware and Network. Server? PCs? PC Technician? Something
> else?
>
> Shay
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My workplace is looking to fill in a position for a hardware/network
>> person, someone to look mostly after the office network.
>>
>> Do people here have ideas about where to look for good interview
>> questions/exercises for such a role?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Amos
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>


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From ronys at gmx.net  Wed Jul  6 23:01:02 2016
From: ronys at gmx.net (ronys)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 23:01:02 +0300
Subject: Questions for network/hardware engineer candidates?
In-Reply-To: <CAF9n_WUJwaDoR-2vtvLL6D5Xbe8Pg_m40av+tiPH3YipW_gtJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF9n_WUJwaDoR-2vtvLL6D5Xbe8Pg_m40av+tiPH3YipW_gtJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKUoDd+GpHGp0kbJN47ewkWW-Dpt5wk6qV79Mi4TYrMPPHQdrQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'd ask for a "war story" that the candidate is proud of. How s/he
approached the problem, how methodical (or not), how false leads were
eliminated, what lessons were learned.

>From there I'd invent a slight variation, and see how the candidate handles
it.

You can also describe the symptoms of a problem you've actually had at your
site, and see how the candidate tracks it down.

Good luck.

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My workplace is looking to fill in a position for a hardware/network
> person, someone to look mostly after the office network.
>
> Do people here have ideas about where to look for good interview
> questions/exercises for such a role?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Amos
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
>


-- 
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Thu Jul  7 21:11:56 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 14:11:56 -0400
Subject: Questions for network/hardware engineer candidates?
In-Reply-To: <CAKUoDd+GpHGp0kbJN47ewkWW-Dpt5wk6qV79Mi4TYrMPPHQdrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF9n_WUJwaDoR-2vtvLL6D5Xbe8Pg_m40av+tiPH3YipW_gtJQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKUoDd+GpHGp0kbJN47ewkWW-Dpt5wk6qV79Mi4TYrMPPHQdrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160707141156.35b3a438@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 23:01:02 +0300
ronys <ronys at gmx.net> wrote:

> I'd ask for a "war story" that the candidate is proud of. How s/he
> approached the problem, how methodical (or not), how false leads were
> eliminated, what lessons were learned.
> 
> From there I'd invent a slight variation, and see how the candidate
> handles it.

Do you mean something like "that sounds great! What would you have done
if _____," where ______ is a change of one factor?

SteveT

Steve Litt 
July 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques
     of the Successful Technologist
http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques


From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 01:58:41 2016
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 01:58:41 +0300
Subject: OFFTOPIC: friends from foocamp requests help from outside North
 America for researching censorship; script to run on *nix
Message-ID: <CAGASG3zKZ-xKKs8PUKtBUGUZcQ3ezv1=fjxDf1hXbS0BVdTn3A@mail.gmail.com>

Because most responses will be from North America, I thought it would be
particularly valuable if people on this list might be willing to help.

Details here <https://research.owlfolio.org/active-geo/>

>From their website:

Active Geolocation Project

This website is part of a research study conducted by *Nicolas Christin*
and *Zachary Weinberg* at Carnegie Mellon University.

The purpose of our research is to test ?active geolocation? algorithms.
These attempt to determine where in the world a computer is, by measuring
how long it takes network messages from that computer to reach other
computers in known locations. We test them by making measurements from
computers in known locations. We can then compare the position calculated
by each algorithm with the truth. We?re also comparing with the position
reported by commercial geolocation services (such as MaxMind
<https://www.maxmind.com/> and Geobytes <http://geobytes.com/>) for the
computer?s IP address.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sumana Harihareswara <sumanah at panix.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FooCampers] request: run this script on computers worldwide
to help research censorship
To: foocampers at foo.oreilly.com, zackw at cmu.edu


In case you want to spread the word about this request, here's a public
URL to use: https://research.owlfolio.org/active-geo/

And you can retweet https://twitter.com/elwoz/status/751403093116542976
: "I'm looking for volunteers to help with a research project:
https://research.owlfolio.org/active-geo/  Especially want people
outside Europe and North America."


--
Sumana Harihareswara
http://brainwane.net

On 11/04/16 15:34, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> Foo Campers: my friend Zack needs help in his research to measure
> Internet censorship. He's a grad student at CMU and a longtime open
> source software hacker.
>
> (And even if you can't help, you might enjoy his summaries and reviews
> of recent research papers in his field: http://readings.owlfolio.org/ )
>
> Hope you can help!
>
> Sumana Harihareswara
> http://harihareswara.net
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Zack Weinberg <zackw at cmu.edu>
>
>
> Hello, my name is Zack Weinberg, and I'm a researcher at Carnegie Mellon
> University. I am doing experiments in "active geolocation", which is
> when you try to figure out where a computer physically is by measuring
> packet round-trip times from it to computers in known locations.  This
> has been studied carefully within Europe and the continental USA, but
> much less so elsewhere.
>
> I'm specifically trying to develop a technique for verifying that VPN
> exits are in the country that their operator claims they are.  My larger
> research focuses on measuring Internet censorship, for which I need
> network vantage points in precisely the countries where it's hardest to
> get reliable server hosting.  Commercial VPN operators may prefer to
> locate their hosts in countries where it's easier to do business, and
> only *label* them as being in harder-to-access countries.
>
> I am looking for volunteers who can run my measurement scripts on
> computers physically located all over the world.  South America,
> sub-Saharan Africa, South and Southeast Asia, and Oceania locations are
> especially helpful, but I can use data from anywhere.  You must know the
> latitude and longitude of the computer to within 50km and be willing to
> share that information.  The test performs roughly 10,000 TCP handshakes
> with roughly 1,000 "landmark" computers, at an overall rate of about 20
> handshakes per second, and measures the round-trip times.  No
> application-layer data is transferred.  You may inspect the code before
> running it (and the list of landmarks, but that's just a big list of IP
> addresses so not super informative).  I'm also happy to answer questions
> about the research.
>
> If you're interested, please contact <zackw at cmu.edu>.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Zack Weinberg
>

_______________________________________________
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From shlomif at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 15:27:06 2016
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:27:06 +0300
Subject: OFFTOPIC: friends from foocamp requests help from outside North
 America for researching censorship; script to run on *nix
In-Reply-To: <CAGASG3zKZ-xKKs8PUKtBUGUZcQ3ezv1=fjxDf1hXbS0BVdTn3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGASG3zKZ-xKKs8PUKtBUGUZcQ3ezv1=fjxDf1hXbS0BVdTn3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANy4znWV2pTabn+jywoMV45wbwVtZaQyXjffwxoAqj15g8-OEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Michael,

thanks for sharing. I don't feel it's off topic for this list and I have
already retweeted the tweet and have built and ran the client. I'll try to
publicise it a bit more.

Regards,

   -- Shlomi Fish

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From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 15:43:01 2016
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:43:01 +0300
Subject: OFFTOPIC: friends from foocamp requests help from outside North
 America for researching censorship; script to run on *nix
In-Reply-To: <CANy4znWV2pTabn+jywoMV45wbwVtZaQyXjffwxoAqj15g8-OEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGASG3zKZ-xKKs8PUKtBUGUZcQ3ezv1=fjxDf1hXbS0BVdTn3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANy4znWV2pTabn+jywoMV45wbwVtZaQyXjffwxoAqj15g8-OEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGASG3xQ9BNcF1FcUWyun5uzaHav98wu+YO+bUhx8KvBsgc23A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Shlomi,

I'm normally in USA but I happen to be in Israel right now visiting family
so I ran the client. Very clean and easy.

(By the way, I'm hoping to return to Israel and am looking for teaching
work. Would it be off topic to briefly mention what I teach in the hopes
that people here might have ideas?)

Michael

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> thanks for sharing. I don't feel it's off topic for this list and I have
> already retweeted the tweet and have built and ran the client. I'll try to
> publicise it a bit more.
>
> Regards,
>
>    -- Shlomi Fish
>
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From mordbe0 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 18:22:26 2016
From: mordbe0 at gmail.com (Mord Behar)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:22:26 +0300
Subject: Hebrew monospace font
Message-ID: <CAJzkJxE9xhWEMtS3jYyjwn9oHD4JQOOateo3D=F9_kQuoh=dmA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I've been looking for a good monospace font that supports Hebrew characters
(unfortunately people tend to write comments in Hebrew and/or hardcode html
elements).
My monospace font of choice is Hack (http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/), but
it doesn't support Hebrew.
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From rabin at rabin.io  Sun Jul 10 19:04:02 2016
From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:04:02 +0300
Subject: Hebrew monospace font
In-Reply-To: <CAJzkJxE9xhWEMtS3jYyjwn9oHD4JQOOateo3D=F9_kQuoh=dmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxE9xhWEMtS3jYyjwn9oHD4JQOOateo3D=F9_kQuoh=dmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABKuJEDMUGfNtSn4thh8xWz3TNvKt=aZGcv6wSoYL6021x6jhw@mail.gmail.com>

I also was looking for a Hebrew mono spaced font, but didn't found any one
i like ,

I was looking for a why to merge the Hebrew glyphs from GNU-Mono into
Anka/Code but using fontforge,
but it didn't work for me, so i gave up.

But some applications/editor's/IDE's support the option to set a secondary
font as fallback
- this allow me to set the default to the one i like (currently it
Anka/Code and Source Code Pro)
- and use GNU Mono as my fallback font




--
Rabin

On 10 July 2016 at 18:22, Mord Behar <mordbe0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've been looking for a good monospace font that supports Hebrew
> characters (unfortunately people tend to write comments in Hebrew and/or
> hardcode html elements).
> My monospace font of choice is Hack (http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/), but
> it doesn't support Hebrew.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
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From mordbe0 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 19:37:16 2016
From: mordbe0 at gmail.com (Mord Behar)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:37:16 +0300
Subject: Hebrew monospace font
In-Reply-To: <CAJzkJxFoe+fFpSuAhLoqQd5T0yLDjvxGhD+DiOLW1paY=im-NQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxE9xhWEMtS3jYyjwn9oHD4JQOOateo3D=F9_kQuoh=dmA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABKuJEDMUGfNtSn4thh8xWz3TNvKt=aZGcv6wSoYL6021x6jhw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJzkJxEv-acVY74tipHt0LADQmzrg=8uUa8q4RKGBpV5BpVsAA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJzkJxFoe+fFpSuAhLoqQd5T0yLDjvxGhD+DiOLW1paY=im-NQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJzkJxG7oTdPKxm2NnRANc+Cehjdv7PdrM1PHRx0Bj2i20iuww@mail.gmail.com>

I thought about trying something like that, Hack is open source. But I have
no experience using any tools for creating/modifying fonts.
On Jul 10, 2016 7:04 PM, "Rabin Yasharzadehe" <rabin at rabin.io> wrote:

I also was looking for a Hebrew mono spaced font, but didn't found any one
i like ,

I was looking for a why to merge the Hebrew glyphs from GNU-Mono into
Anka/Code but using fontforge,
but it didn't work for me, so i gave up.

But some applications/editor's/IDE's support the option to set a secondary
font as fallback
- this allow me to set the default to the one i like (currently it
Anka/Code and Source Code Pro)
- and use GNU Mono as my fallback font




--
Rabin

On 10 July 2016 at 18:22, Mord Behar <mordbe0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've been looking for a good monospace font that supports Hebrew
> characters (unfortunately people tend to write comments in Hebrew and/or
> hardcode html elements).
> My monospace font of choice is Hack (http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/), but
> it doesn't support Hebrew.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
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From eli at netmask.it  Sun Jul 10 19:47:37 2016
From: eli at netmask.it (Eli Marmor)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:47:37 +0300
Subject: Hebrew monospace font
In-Reply-To: <CAJzkJxE9xhWEMtS3jYyjwn9oHD4JQOOateo3D=F9_kQuoh=dmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxE9xhWEMtS3jYyjwn9oHD4JQOOateo3D=F9_kQuoh=dmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHHrWDM=ScaccwkorKyoFtYBkms4f6KN7NHKR+yJQjsMKxqoDg@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't touched the following website for almost 20 years, so I'm not
sure that it works and/or the fonts work, but you may try it, on your
responsibility:

http://elmar.co.il/wwh/wwh/xfiles/H.fonts/index.he.html
or:
http://elmar.co.il/wwh/wwh/xfiles/H.fonts/index.en.html

Fonts with "-c-" or "-m-" in their names are monospace, and fonts with
"-p-" in their names are proportional.
Most of the fonts are PCF/BDF, but there are also some Type1 (scalable).

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Mord Behar <mordbe0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've been looking for a good monospace font that supports Hebrew
> characters (unfortunately people tend to write comments in Hebrew and/or
> hardcode html elements).
> My monospace font of choice is Hack (http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/), but
> it doesn't support Hebrew.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
>
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From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 17:08:05 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:08:05 +0300
Subject: Chromium homepage problem - OR - Have I been hacked?
Message-ID: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>

I'm using Chromium 51.0.2704.103 on Mageia 5.
My homepage is set to www.google.com

Today, for no reason that I can see, when I click on the home button,
seemingly "random" pages open, with one thing in common. They all look
similar to Google (white background, search window etc), but instead of
the Google logo, I see the word SEARCH in the colors of the Google logo.

If I actually type www.google.com, I get to Google. The problem is only
when I click on the home icon.

I tried clearing cache, browser history etc but no change.
I changed my home page to www.ynet.co.il, and I still get the "random"
SEARCH sites.

Has anyone seen this behaviour?

I'm including a few of the sites I've been reaching. Notice that many
(but not all) are from .ru:

http://miyake-inc.com/i/searchsss.html
http://safesearch5.ru/stm.html
http://mystartpage1.ru/i/start.html
http://mystartpage6.ru/blank.html
http://wzscnet.com/i/startm.html
http://safesearch4.ru/startss.html
http://safesearch3.ru/startt.html




-- 
Shlomo Solomon
http://the-solomons.net
Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5



From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 17:21:34 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:21:34 +0300
Subject: Chromium homepage problem - OR - Have I been hacked?
In-Reply-To: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
References: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
Message-ID: <20160726172134.74212ca4@shlomo1.solomon>

A small correction to what I wrote. The problem happens when I click
"New Tab" to the right of the open tabs - NOT when I click Home.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:08:05 +0300
Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:

> I'm using Chromium 51.0.2704.103 on Mageia 5.
> My homepage is set to www.google.com
> 
> Today, for no reason that I can see, when I click on the home button,
> seemingly "random" pages open, with one thing in common. They all look
> similar to Google (white background, search window etc), but instead
> of the Google logo, I see the word SEARCH in the colors of the Google
> logo.
> 
> If I actually type www.google.com, I get to Google. The problem is
> only when I click on the home icon.
> 
> I tried clearing cache, browser history etc but no change.
> I changed my home page to www.ynet.co.il, and I still get the "random"
> SEARCH sites.
> 
> Has anyone seen this behaviour?
> 
> I'm including a few of the sites I've been reaching. Notice that many
> (but not all) are from .ru:
> 
> http://miyake-inc.com/i/searchsss.html
> http://safesearch5.ru/stm.html
> http://mystartpage1.ru/i/start.html
> http://mystartpage6.ru/blank.html
> http://wzscnet.com/i/startm.html
> http://safesearch4.ru/startss.html
> http://safesearch3.ru/startt.html
> 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Shlomo Solomon
http://the-solomons.net
Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5



From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 17:52:28 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:52:28 +0300
Subject: Chromium homepage problem - OR - Have I been hacked?
In-Reply-To: <20160726172134.74212ca4@shlomo1.solomon>
References: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726172134.74212ca4@shlomo1.solomon>
Message-ID: <20160726175228.187efded@shlomo1.solomon>

OK - I "sort of" solved this by installing an extension - Speed Dial
2 - in Chromium. 

But I still have no idea why it happened in the first place.


On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:21:34 +0300
Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:

> A small correction to what I wrote. The problem happens when I click
> "New Tab" to the right of the open tabs - NOT when I click Home.
> 
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:08:05 +0300
> Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
> 
> > I'm using Chromium 51.0.2704.103 on Mageia 5.
> > My homepage is set to www.google.com
> > 
> > Today, for no reason that I can see, when I click on the home
> > button, seemingly "random" pages open, with one thing in common.
> > They all look similar to Google (white background, search window
> > etc), but instead of the Google logo, I see the word SEARCH in the
> > colors of the Google logo.
> > 
> > If I actually type www.google.com, I get to Google. The problem is
> > only when I click on the home icon.
> > 
> > I tried clearing cache, browser history etc but no change.
> > I changed my home page to www.ynet.co.il, and I still get the
> > "random" SEARCH sites.
> > 
> > Has anyone seen this behaviour?
> > 
> > I'm including a few of the sites I've been reaching. Notice that
> > many (but not all) are from .ru:
> > 
> > http://miyake-inc.com/i/searchsss.html
> > http://safesearch5.ru/stm.html
> > http://mystartpage1.ru/i/start.html
> > http://mystartpage6.ru/blank.html
> > http://wzscnet.com/i/startm.html
> > http://safesearch4.ru/startss.html
> > http://safesearch3.ru/startt.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Shlomo Solomon
http://the-solomons.net
Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5



From rabin at rabin.io  Tue Jul 26 18:25:14 2016
From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:25:14 +0300
Subject: Chromium homepage problem - OR - Have I been hacked?
In-Reply-To: <20160726175228.187efded@shlomo1.solomon>
References: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726172134.74212ca4@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726175228.187efded@shlomo1.solomon>
Message-ID: <CABKuJECpacDpeR5hLvVbczLZ0j9WUbM4WkuVQX=eBEkUGOJaHQ@mail.gmail.com>

try disabling all your extension,
some extensions developers will sell there extensions to some 3rd party
 which will then embed some nasty stuff inside of them.

worst case, you can try and reset your chrome profile.

--
Rabin

On 26 July 2016 at 17:52, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK - I "sort of" solved this by installing an extension - Speed Dial
> 2 - in Chromium.
>
> But I still have no idea why it happened in the first place.
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:21:34 +0300
> Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
>
> > A small correction to what I wrote. The problem happens when I click
> > "New Tab" to the right of the open tabs - NOT when I click Home.
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:08:05 +0300
> > Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm using Chromium 51.0.2704.103 on Mageia 5.
> > > My homepage is set to www.google.com
> > >
> > > Today, for no reason that I can see, when I click on the home
> > > button, seemingly "random" pages open, with one thing in common.
> > > They all look similar to Google (white background, search window
> > > etc), but instead of the Google logo, I see the word SEARCH in the
> > > colors of the Google logo.
> > >
> > > If I actually type www.google.com, I get to Google. The problem is
> > > only when I click on the home icon.
> > >
> > > I tried clearing cache, browser history etc but no change.
> > > I changed my home page to www.ynet.co.il, and I still get the
> > > "random" SEARCH sites.
> > >
> > > Has anyone seen this behaviour?
> > >
> > > I'm including a few of the sites I've been reaching. Notice that
> > > many (but not all) are from .ru:
> > >
> > > http://miyake-inc.com/i/searchsss.html
> > > http://safesearch5.ru/stm.html
> > > http://mystartpage1.ru/i/start.html
> > > http://mystartpage6.ru/blank.html
> > > http://wzscnet.com/i/startm.html
> > > http://safesearch4.ru/startss.html
> > > http://safesearch3.ru/startt.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Shlomo Solomon
> http://the-solomons.net
> Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5
>
>
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From govershay at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 18:27:58 2016
From: govershay at gmail.com (Shay Gover)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:27:58 +0300
Subject: Chromium homepage problem - OR - Have I been hacked?
In-Reply-To: <CABKuJECpacDpeR5hLvVbczLZ0j9WUbM4WkuVQX=eBEkUGOJaHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726172134.74212ca4@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726175228.187efded@shlomo1.solomon>
 <CABKuJECpacDpeR5hLvVbczLZ0j9WUbM4WkuVQX=eBEkUGOJaHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANM5d8fG9C6CK57wGGFkTgruN0dAg0vcLPKP4PoAEDchFo+0Lg@mail.gmail.com>

What happens when you open a private session(Ctrl+Shift+N)?

Shay

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe <rabin at rabin.io> wrote:

> try disabling all your extension,
> some extensions developers will sell there extensions to some 3rd party
>  which will then embed some nasty stuff inside of them.
>
> worst case, you can try and reset your chrome profile.
>
> --
> Rabin
>
> On 26 July 2016 at 17:52, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK - I "sort of" solved this by installing an extension - Speed Dial
>> 2 - in Chromium.
>>
>> But I still have no idea why it happened in the first place.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:21:34 +0300
>> Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
>>
>> > A small correction to what I wrote. The problem happens when I click
>> > "New Tab" to the right of the open tabs - NOT when I click Home.
>> >
>> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:08:05 +0300
>> > Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm using Chromium 51.0.2704.103 on Mageia 5.
>> > > My homepage is set to www.google.com
>> > >
>> > > Today, for no reason that I can see, when I click on the home
>> > > button, seemingly "random" pages open, with one thing in common.
>> > > They all look similar to Google (white background, search window
>> > > etc), but instead of the Google logo, I see the word SEARCH in the
>> > > colors of the Google logo.
>> > >
>> > > If I actually type www.google.com, I get to Google. The problem is
>> > > only when I click on the home icon.
>> > >
>> > > I tried clearing cache, browser history etc but no change.
>> > > I changed my home page to www.ynet.co.il, and I still get the
>> > > "random" SEARCH sites.
>> > >
>> > > Has anyone seen this behaviour?
>> > >
>> > > I'm including a few of the sites I've been reaching. Notice that
>> > > many (but not all) are from .ru:
>> > >
>> > > http://miyake-inc.com/i/searchsss.html
>> > > http://safesearch5.ru/stm.html
>> > > http://mystartpage1.ru/i/start.html
>> > > http://mystartpage6.ru/blank.html
>> > > http://wzscnet.com/i/startm.html
>> > > http://safesearch4.ru/startss.html
>> > > http://safesearch3.ru/startt.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shlomo Solomon
>> http://the-solomons.net
>> Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>
>
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From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 18:48:35 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:48:35 +0300
Subject: Chromium homepage problem - OR - Have I been hacked?
In-Reply-To: <CABKuJECpacDpeR5hLvVbczLZ0j9WUbM4WkuVQX=eBEkUGOJaHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726172134.74212ca4@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726175228.187efded@shlomo1.solomon>
 <CABKuJECpacDpeR5hLvVbczLZ0j9WUbM4WkuVQX=eBEkUGOJaHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160726184835.2b5051fb@shlomo1.solomon>

Thanks - that was indeed the problem. I disabled all extensions and
then re-enabled one by one and discovered that the problem is an
extension called Chrome Note.

The strange thing is that I installed it many months ago and it only
started to cause problems today - maybe there was a version upgrade.

In any case, I deleted it and reported the abuse on the chrome store.

Thanks again.


On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:25:14 +0300
Rabin Yasharzadehe <rabin at rabin.io> wrote:

> try disabling all your extension,
> some extensions developers will sell there extensions to some 3rd
> party which will then embed some nasty stuff inside of them.
> 
> worst case, you can try and reset your chrome profile.
> 
> --
> Rabin
> 
> On 26 July 2016 at 17:52, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > OK - I "sort of" solved this by installing an extension - Speed Dial
> > 2 - in Chromium.
> >
> > But I still have no idea why it happened in the first place.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:21:34 +0300
> > Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
> >
> > > A small correction to what I wrote. The problem happens when I
> > > click "New Tab" to the right of the open tabs - NOT when I click
> > > Home.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:08:05 +0300
> > > Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm using Chromium 51.0.2704.103 on Mageia 5.
> > > > My homepage is set to www.google.com
> > > >
> > > > Today, for no reason that I can see, when I click on the home
> > > > button, seemingly "random" pages open, with one thing in common.
> > > > They all look similar to Google (white background, search window
> > > > etc), but instead of the Google logo, I see the word SEARCH in
> > > > the colors of the Google logo.
> > > >
> > > > If I actually type www.google.com, I get to Google. The problem
> > > > is only when I click on the home icon.
> > > >
> > > > I tried clearing cache, browser history etc but no change.
> > > > I changed my home page to www.ynet.co.il, and I still get the
> > > > "random" SEARCH sites.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone seen this behaviour?
> > > >
> > > > I'm including a few of the sites I've been reaching. Notice that
> > > > many (but not all) are from .ru:
> > > >
> > > > http://miyake-inc.com/i/searchsss.html
> > > > http://safesearch5.ru/stm.html
> > > > http://mystartpage1.ru/i/start.html
> > > > http://mystartpage6.ru/blank.html
> > > > http://wzscnet.com/i/startm.html
> > > > http://safesearch4.ru/startss.html
> > > > http://safesearch3.ru/startt.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shlomo Solomon
> > http://the-solomons.net
> > Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 19:02:42 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:02:42 +0300
Subject: Chromium homepage problem - OR - Have I been hacked?
In-Reply-To: <CANM5d8fG9C6CK57wGGFkTgruN0dAg0vcLPKP4PoAEDchFo+0Lg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726172134.74212ca4@shlomo1.solomon>
 <20160726175228.187efded@shlomo1.solomon>
 <CABKuJECpacDpeR5hLvVbczLZ0j9WUbM4WkuVQX=eBEkUGOJaHQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANM5d8fG9C6CK57wGGFkTgruN0dAg0vcLPKP4PoAEDchFo+0Lg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160726190242.706cdd33@shlomo1.solomon>

I wanted to re-install the bad extension so I could answer your
question.

But I discovered that it no longer exists - So I guess I wasn't the
first person to notify the Chrome store about the abuse.


On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:27:58 +0300
Shay Gover <govershay at gmail.com> wrote:

> What happens when you open a private session(Ctrl+Shift+N)?
> 
> Shay
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe <rabin at rabin.io>
> wrote:
> 
> > try disabling all your extension,
> > some extensions developers will sell there extensions to some 3rd
> > party which will then embed some nasty stuff inside of them.
> >
> > worst case, you can try and reset your chrome profile.
> >
> > --
> > Rabin
> >
> > On 26 July 2016 at 17:52, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> OK - I "sort of" solved this by installing an extension - Speed
> >> Dial 2 - in Chromium.
> >>
> >> But I still have no idea why it happened in the first place.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:21:34 +0300
> >> Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > A small correction to what I wrote. The problem happens when I
> >> > click "New Tab" to the right of the open tabs - NOT when I click
> >> > Home.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:08:05 +0300
> >> > Shlomo Solomon <shlomo at the-solomons.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'm using Chromium 51.0.2704.103 on Mageia 5.
> >> > > My homepage is set to www.google.com
> >> > >
> >> > > Today, for no reason that I can see, when I click on the home
> >> > > button, seemingly "random" pages open, with one thing in
> >> > > common. They all look similar to Google (white background,
> >> > > search window etc), but instead of the Google logo, I see the
> >> > > word SEARCH in the colors of the Google logo.
> >> > >
> >> > > If I actually type www.google.com, I get to Google. The
> >> > > problem is only when I click on the home icon.
> >> > >
> >> > > I tried clearing cache, browser history etc but no change.
> >> > > I changed my home page to www.ynet.co.il, and I still get the
> >> > > "random" SEARCH sites.
> >> > >
> >> > > Has anyone seen this behaviour?
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm including a few of the sites I've been reaching. Notice
> >> > > that many (but not all) are from .ru:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://miyake-inc.com/i/searchsss.html
> >> > > http://safesearch5.ru/stm.html
> >> > > http://mystartpage1.ru/i/start.html
> >> > > http://mystartpage6.ru/blank.html
> >> > > http://wzscnet.com/i/startm.html
> >> > > http://safesearch4.ru/startss.html
> >> > > http://safesearch3.ru/startt.html
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shlomo Solomon
> >> http://the-solomons.net
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> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
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From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 15:03:56 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:03:56 +1000
Subject: IS there anyone here with experience with VyOS/Vyatta?
Message-ID: <CAF9n_WXoc9sC63putA7TxNkWOmsmBbVeKBNcpBcAJ2G-=Z0GWg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking for answers about some corner cases I hit with it.

I generally managed to get it up and running and connecting my AWS VPC's
over IPSec
VPN with BGP-4 routing (fully automated, I'll publish the AMI Packer
receipe and CloudFormation
stack later), but have a few other annoyances.

Specifically I'm now trying to use it for remote-access l2tp/ipsec and also
have an issue with
the office VyOS having trouble generating DNS traffic using the right
source address.

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From moish at mln.co.il  Wed Jul 27 15:17:45 2016
From: moish at mln.co.il (Moish)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:17:45 +0300
Subject: Replacing ISOC as my domain registrar
In-Reply-To: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
References: <20160726170805.5c314eaa@shlomo1.solomon>
Message-ID: <61baf180-4297-e4b8-933e-0e3924b2e4d9@mln.co.il>

ISOC announced that they will cease to mainatain my domain's regisration.
My dns records are maintained by Google and Netvision.

How do I select a new registrar?
Whats should I look for?


Moish




From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 08:50:48 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:50:48 +0300
Subject: Raspberry PI - analog sensors with Arduino
Message-ID: <20160731085048.0be080e9@shlomo1.solomon>

I hope this is not OT - and if it is - sorry.

I recently started "playing" with controlling simple devices using the
PI GPIO pins - trivial things like controlling a LED or servo.

I want to experiment with some analog sensors - temperature, magnetic,
etc. There are several kits available, but from comments I've read
about most of them, they are not "really" meant for the PI and the best
way to use them is to connect the PI to an Arduino.

I have absolutely no knowledge about the Arduino, but I've seen clones
advertised on e-bay for less than $2 - link below.

Can anyone tell me if this as actually a working solution and if the
low price is actually possible?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-Pro-Mini-atmega328-5V-16M-Replace-ATmega128-Arduino-Compatible-Nano-/152160908037?hash=item236d7f3305:g:MMcAAOSw2GlXLD~U

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From write.to.jason at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 09:03:15 2016
From: write.to.jason at gmail.com (Jason Friedman)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:03:15 +0300
Subject: Raspberry PI - analog sensors with Arduino
In-Reply-To: <20160731085048.0be080e9@shlomo1.solomon>
References: <20160731085048.0be080e9@shlomo1.solomon>
Message-ID: <CAJVJ8zarD_R4BMnjCzWzDWuKR3RCEzVb_h03MgbpFXzUnwe7pw@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I have absolutely no knowledge about the Arduino, but I've seen clones
> advertised on e-bay for less than $2 - link below.
>
> Can anyone tell me if this as actually a working solution and if the
> low price is actually possible?
>
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-Pro-Mini-atmega328-5V-16M-Replace-ATmega128-Arduino-Compatible-Nano-/152160908037?hash=item236d7f3305:g:MMcAAOSw2GlXLD~U
>
>
Arduino is probably the easiest / cheapest way to access analog sensors.
While quality of these do vary, I have had good experience with these very
cheap units. Note that you need to program these devices via a USB cable
and an FTDI programmer (you can also find one on ebay for a few dollars). I
would recommend for someone new to Arduino that you get an Arduino uno /
sparkfun redboard (or a chinese clone of one of these) - they have the
programmer built into the board (so you just plug it via USB to your
computer). They also have headers soldered onto the board already, so you
can connect sensors, LEDs, etc without soldering, which is good for getting
started.

Jason



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> Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5
>
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From kobi.zamir at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 09:25:31 2016
From: kobi.zamir at gmail.com (Kobi Zamir)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:25:31 +0300
Subject: Raspberry PI - analog sensors with Arduino
In-Reply-To: <CAJVJ8zarD_R4BMnjCzWzDWuKR3RCEzVb_h03MgbpFXzUnwe7pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160731085048.0be080e9@shlomo1.solomon>
 <CAJVJ8zarD_R4BMnjCzWzDWuKR3RCEzVb_h03MgbpFXzUnwe7pw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACiCJqZY+ORPPmJ6pNH0NTZNBnC+aa6H_Zm3uFyQQL1GOMNYRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I also think like Json.

For the first time you play with an arduino, use a board that has:

1. a usb connector for programming and i/o
2. pre-soldered connectors
3. use standard arduino connector arrangement (like in the arduino uno)

For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNO-R3-ATmega328P-Development-Board-for-Arduino-Compatible-Free-USB-Cable-/191617917471



On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Jason Friedman <write.to.jason at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>> I have absolutely no knowledge about the Arduino, but I've seen clones
>> advertised on e-bay for less than $2 - link below.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me if this as actually a working solution and if the
>> low price is actually possible?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-Pro-Mini-atmega328-5V-16M-Replace-ATmega128-Arduino-Compatible-Nano-/152160908037?hash=item236d7f3305:g:MMcAAOSw2GlXLD~U
>>
>>
> Arduino is probably the easiest / cheapest way to access analog sensors.
> While quality of these do vary, I have had good experience with these very
> cheap units. Note that you need to program these devices via a USB cable
> and an FTDI programmer (you can also find one on ebay for a few dollars). I
> would recommend for someone new to Arduino that you get an Arduino uno /
> sparkfun redboard (or a chinese clone of one of these) - they have the
> programmer built into the board (so you just plug it via USB to your
> computer). They also have headers soldered onto the board already, so you
> can connect sensors, LEDs, etc without soldering, which is good for getting
> started.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>> --
>> Shlomo Solomon
>> http://the-solomons.net
>> Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5
>>
>>
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>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jason Friedman, PhD
> Senior Lecturer
> Department of Physical Therapy
> Tel Aviv University
> email: write.to.jason at gmail.com
> web: http://curiousjason.com
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From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 12:37:51 2016
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 12:37:51 +0300
Subject: Raspberry PI - analog sensors with Arduino
In-Reply-To: <CACiCJqZY+ORPPmJ6pNH0NTZNBnC+aa6H_Zm3uFyQQL1GOMNYRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160731085048.0be080e9@shlomo1.solomon>
 <CAJVJ8zarD_R4BMnjCzWzDWuKR3RCEzVb_h03MgbpFXzUnwe7pw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACiCJqZY+ORPPmJ6pNH0NTZNBnC+aa6H_Zm3uFyQQL1GOMNYRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160731123751.01960785@shlomo1.solomon>

Thanks to Kobi and Jason.

In the meantime, I've done more research, and I see that there are
several ADC (analog digital converter) chips available to help the PI
use analog input. 
Since my main purpose is to learn to use and program the GPIO pins on
the PI, I guess that would be a good solution - especially since my C++
skills are REALLY rusty and I'm much more comfortable with Python.

Again - thanks for your replies


On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:25:31 +0300
Kobi Zamir <kobi.zamir at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, I also think like Json.
> 
> For the first time you play with an arduino, use a board that has:
> 
> 1. a usb connector for programming and i/o
> 2. pre-soldered connectors
> 3. use standard arduino connector arrangement (like in the arduino
> uno)
> 
> For example:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNO-R3-ATmega328P-Development-Board-for-Arduino-Compatible-Free-USB-Cable-/191617917471
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Jason Friedman
> <write.to.jason at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >> I have absolutely no knowledge about the Arduino, but I've seen
> >> clones advertised on e-bay for less than $2 - link below.
> >>
> >> Can anyone tell me if this as actually a working solution and if
> >> the low price is actually possible?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-Pro-Mini-atmega328-5V-16M-Replace-ATmega128-Arduino-Compatible-Nano-/152160908037?hash=item236d7f3305:g:MMcAAOSw2GlXLD~U
> >>
> >>
> > Arduino is probably the easiest / cheapest way to access analog
> > sensors. While quality of these do vary, I have had good experience
> > with these very cheap units. Note that you need to program these
> > devices via a USB cable and an FTDI programmer (you can also find
> > one on ebay for a few dollars). I would recommend for someone new
> > to Arduino that you get an Arduino uno / sparkfun redboard (or a
> > chinese clone of one of these) - they have the programmer built
> > into the board (so you just plug it via USB to your computer). They
> > also have headers soldered onto the board already, so you can
> > connect sensors, LEDs, etc without soldering, which is good for
> > getting started.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >> --
> >> Shlomo Solomon
> >> http://the-solomons.net
> >> Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jason Friedman, PhD
> > Senior Lecturer
> > Department of Physical Therapy
> > Tel Aviv University
> > email: write.to.jason at gmail.com
> > web: http://curiousjason.com
> >
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> >
> >



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