From sara.fink at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 12:43:07 2016
From: sara.fink at gmail.com (sara fink)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 12:43:07 +0200
Subject: vdsl2 router
Message-ID: <CAKsgyTb1a+be84X+H_w5MPU6WMqUNFku14e21r0JayjVUgFa+w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone

I would like to buy a vdsl2 router that supports openwrt or ddwrt. Anyone
has experience with a good router? Xphone gives dlink 225 which doesn't
support openwrt.
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From rabin at rabin.io  Tue Mar  1 13:40:01 2016
From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 13:40:01 +0200
Subject: vdsl2 router
In-Reply-To: <CAKsgyTb1a+be84X+H_w5MPU6WMqUNFku14e21r0JayjVUgFa+w@mail.gmail.com>
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In my opinion , a good place to start is this list -
http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/VDSL_Router/VDSL_Router.htm
find one/two that meet your demand, and then check if they have support for
openwrt/dd-wrt

--
Rabin

On 1 March 2016 at 12:43, sara fink <sara.fink at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone
>
> I would like to buy a vdsl2 router that supports openwrt or ddwrt. Anyone
> has experience with a good router? Xphone gives dlink 225 which doesn't
> support openwrt.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Tue Mar  8 01:07:10 2016
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 01:07:10 +0200
Subject: vdsl2 router
In-Reply-To: <CABKuJEAK21fRS6nV-cbe8NOD-kqOufDzfmm=eWPrW7ES_Bh3gQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKsgyTb1a+be84X+H_w5MPU6WMqUNFku14e21r0JayjVUgFa+w@mail.gmail.com>
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Personally I don't bother with the modem/router supporting OpenWRT, I
bought a nice TP-Link router which functions as the router of my
networks and runs OpenWRT then the provider router/bridge/whatever box
is just used as a bridge device and nothing more.

There are far less xDSL devices that support *WRT and also you never
know if the device you'll get from your provider is under your full
control (these days with 2/3-play packages the router tends to not be
under your control since it also does your VoIP/TV) so as far as I am
concerned the provider-device is 'outside' my network and should be
treated as such....

Also the provider devices tend to have terrible firmware/updates which
of course you want to salvage with *WRT.

Regards,
Eliyahu - ?????

2016-03-01 13:40 GMT+02:00 Rabin Yasharzadehe <rabin at rabin.io>:
> In my opinion , a good place to start is this list -
> http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/VDSL_Router/VDSL_Router.htm
> find one/two that meet your demand, and then check if they have support for
> openwrt/dd-wrt
>
> --
> Rabin
>
> On 1 March 2016 at 12:43, sara fink <sara.fink at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone
>>
>> I would like to buy a vdsl2 router that supports openwrt or ddwrt. Anyone
>> has experience with a good router? Xphone gives dlink 225 which doesn't
>> support openwrt.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Tue Mar  8 02:37:46 2016
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 02:37:46 +0200
Subject: vdsl2 router
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re:all

2016-03-08 2:36 GMT+02:00 E.S. Rosenberg <esr at g.jct.ac.il>:
> 2016-03-08 1:45 GMT+02:00 geoffrey mendelson <geoffreymendelson at gmail.com>:
>> On 3/8/2016 1:07 AM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally I don't bother with the modem/router supporting OpenWRT, I
>>> bought a nice TP-Link router which functions as the router of my
>>> networks and runs OpenWRT then the provider router/bridge/whatever box
>>> is just used as a bridge device and nothing more.
>>
>>
>> Would you please post a direct link to where you bought it, and the exact
>> model. I asked about six months ago for a recommendation and in the end
>> could not figure out which was the exact model I needed, and did not want to
>> spend a couple of hundred NIS (I need two) to buy paperweights. :-)
> I have at different locations the WR740N (v4.23 iirc), WR841ND (v5.x
> iirc?) and WR1043ND (v1.x) and am extremely satisfied with all of
> them, note none of these devices support the 5GHz band but since I
> don't suffer from lot's of interference from neighbors and the 'big'
> consumers (laptops) anyhow don't support the 5GHz band either I
> haven't bothered getting a newer router as of yet.
>
> All these devices are available through both KSP and Ivory (and I'm
> pretty sure Bug also carries TP-Link).
>
> If your main use is wireless and you don't need very high speeds the
> WR740N is extremely high value for money since it also has pretty
> advanced features if you open it up (voiding warranty), I actually use
> 2 740s in a very large house to provide the whole house with coverage
> instead of bothering with one much stronger but much more expensive
> device.
>
> If you also want gigabit Ethernet the 1043 is the only option from the
> devices I mentioned, however there are plenty of other well supported
> TP-Link devices that also have Gigabit ethernet available here.
> In the past (4-5 years ago) I have managed to brick a 841 which I
> still have sitting on a shelve waiting for me to hook it up to a
> console and reflash it (at the time I was mucking around with flashing
> from CLI and modifying individual byte ranges manually and I used the
> bricking as the perfect excuse to get a 1043), but the other 841 I
> have is running perfectly fine.
>
> When I want to buy a new router I basically go through what is
> available and what is known about the hardware & support on
> OpernWRT.org and try to get the best value/NIS ratio, things to look
> for (other then connectivity details) are decent size RAM (at least
> 32MiB) and preferably also a larger ROM size so you can install the
> more expansive versions of OpenWRT....
>
> Of the newer dual-band routers (the Archers C*) some devices seem to
> have good support but you'll have to check when you are deciding what
> to get....
>
>>
>>> There are far less xDSL devices that support *WRT and also you never
>>> know if the device you'll get from your provider is under your full
>>> control (these days with 2/3-play packages the router tends to not be
>>> under your control since it also does your VoIP/TV) so as far as I am
>>> concerned the provider-device is 'outside' my network and should be
>>> treated as such....
>>>
>>> Also the provider devices tend to have terrible firmware/updates which
>>> of course you want to salvage with *WRT.
>>>
>> I have a Cell-Com TV router. It is not the version with a VoIP interface, it
>> is for their "double play" service. It came with a decent user interface. I
>> got the admin name and password via their on-line support chat via their
>> website (in Hebrew). I had to do the usual ID number and credit card digits
>> verification.
>>
>> This was to open a port so that I could open a port on the router I have
>> bridging them to my network. It has a DMZ option, but I don't use it. The
>> port has stayed open since I changed it.
> Since the provider often has a was to access the device even if you
> have Admin access (very nice of them they allowed you, I know other
> devices where they make port forwarding available through the user
> interface and Admin is strictly them) and you also have nonsense like
> Bezeq_free lurking around afaik the provider device is not 'inside' my
> network.
>
>>
>> Note to prospective Cell-Com TV users, their router and connection work
>> fine, however before we had it, we had a gamer's package with Netvision.
>> This did some QOS tweaks to our connection at their end which improved
>> on-line gaming. The Cell-Com TV is QOS tweaked at their end for their
>> service, so we lost the gamer's package. It only really affects us during
>> the evening hours and all day Friday and Saturday.
>>
>> The Cell-Com TV boxes are on the wifi network on their router, and nothing
>> else is.
> What do you mean by this, you have no WiFi enabled devices except for
> the TV decoders? is the WiFi network isolated from your wired network?
>
>>
>> I also have a line with CCC on our network, I use the CCC line, my wife and
>> sons use the Cell-Com. We share DNS, mail, etc servers which split across
>> them.
> My experience with CCC is very positive, only reason I'm not using
> them is I live with people who demand Rimon.
>
> As a closing note: I have replaced provider devices very often due to
> device failure while the TP-Links continue to function without issue
> (definitely during the period that Bezeq still provided modems but was
> not buying new ones so you got refurbished devices that failed often).
>
> HTH,
> Eliyahu - ?????
>>
>> Geoff.
>>
>> --
>> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
>> Jerusalem Israel.
>>


From gabor at szabgab.com  Tue Mar  8 07:05:03 2016
From: gabor at szabgab.com (Gabor Szabo)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 07:05:03 +0200
Subject: OT: SSL certificates
Message-ID: <CABe4FJCDKdb=Umwt=-Josm_Jyw7vzJyHALZTJ6W1Vnd-O1u9ig@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

I think it's time to move some of my sites to use https, but as I only had
self-signed ssl so far I wonder if you ppl have any recommendation where to
get the certificate from and how much
should I expect to pay?

I have one domain with about 20 subdomains (the translated versions of my
articles)
and a few other domains with 1-2, sometimes even more subdomains.

Most of them are probably considered commercial as they have ads on it and
on some of them I even have a few subscribers, but they are, unfortunately,
not a big business. Nevertheless I think this might exclude some "open
source" providers.

I looked at http://www.cacert.org/ but as I can see the certificate they
use on their own site is not recognized by either Chrome or Firefox. That
does not seem to be a good thing. (See https://www.cacert.org/ )

A found plenty of companies offering SSL certificates. One of them
https://www.ssl.com/
that was recommended by the domain registrar I am using had
$177 / year for the first 3 hostname and then $49 / year for each
additional hostname and $129/year for each wildcard domain.

Is that a reasonable price? Any suggestions?

regards
   Gabor
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From baruch at tkos.co.il  Tue Mar  8 07:24:34 2016
From: baruch at tkos.co.il (Baruch Siach)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 07:24:34 +0200
Subject: OT: SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <CABe4FJCDKdb=Umwt=-Josm_Jyw7vzJyHALZTJ6W1Vnd-O1u9ig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABe4FJCDKdb=Umwt=-Josm_Jyw7vzJyHALZTJ6W1Vnd-O1u9ig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160308052434.GW2877@tarshish>

Hi Gabor,

On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 07:05:03AM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> A found plenty of companies offering SSL certificates. One of them
> https://www.ssl.com/
> that was recommended by the domain registrar I am using had
> $177 / year for the first 3 hostname and then $49 / year for each
> additional hostname and $129/year for each wildcard domain.
> 
> Is that a reasonable price? Any suggestions?

How about https://letsencrypt.org/ free certs?

baruch

-- 
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=}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{=
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From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Tue Mar  8 08:23:14 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 17:23:14 +1100
Subject: OT: SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20160308052434.GW2877@tarshish>
References: <CABe4FJCDKdb=Umwt=-Josm_Jyw7vzJyHALZTJ6W1Vnd-O1u9ig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160308052434.GW2877@tarshish>
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I too would recommend letsenctlrypt. The only down side is possibly that
you have to keep renewing (automatically with a cron job) every three
months.
Alternatively, www.ssls.com lists very very cheap certs.
On 8 Mar 2016 4:49 p.m., "Baruch Siach" <baruch at tkos.co.il> wrote:

> Hi Gabor,
>
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 07:05:03AM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> > A found plenty of companies offering SSL certificates. One of them
> > https://www.ssl.com/
> > that was recommended by the domain registrar I am using had
> > $177 / year for the first 3 hostname and then $49 / year for each
> > additional hostname and $129/year for each wildcard domain.
> >
> > Is that a reasonable price? Any suggestions?
>
> How about https://letsencrypt.org/ free certs?
>
> baruch
>
> --
>      http://baruch.siach.name/blog/                  ~. .~   Tk Open
> Systems
> =}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{=
>    - baruch at tkos.co.il - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il -
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From tewner at gmail.com  Tue Mar  8 08:27:47 2016
From: tewner at gmail.com (Michael Tewner)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:27:47 +0200
Subject: OT: SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20160308052434.GW2877@tarshish>
References: <CABe4FJCDKdb=Umwt=-Josm_Jyw7vzJyHALZTJ6W1Vnd-O1u9ig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160308052434.GW2877@tarshish>
Message-ID: <CAPxava-YqGKy2frb4_by481Y8wD4Ln0OwkVVi-APVNLS4DXMMw@mail.gmail.com>

As far as I know, letsencrypt.org certs are only good for 90 days, and
you'll want to have a script automatically renew and replace the cert in
the background all the time.
I like https://www.namecheap.com , as it helps you find the cheapest
between different CA's.
CACert is worthy of this community's support, but as you mentioned, their
certs aren't included in any browsers or OS's.



On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Baruch Siach <baruch at tkos.co.il> wrote:

> Hi Gabor,
>
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 07:05:03AM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> > A found plenty of companies offering SSL certificates. One of them
> > https://www.ssl.com/
> > that was recommended by the domain registrar I am using had
> > $177 / year for the first 3 hostname and then $49 / year for each
> > additional hostname and $129/year for each wildcard domain.
> >
> > Is that a reasonable price? Any suggestions?
>
> How about https://letsencrypt.org/ free certs?
>
> baruch
>
> --
>      http://baruch.siach.name/blog/                  ~. .~   Tk Open
> Systems
> =}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{=
>    - baruch at tkos.co.il - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il -
>
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From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Tue Mar  8 09:10:07 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:10:07 +1100
Subject: vdsl2 router
In-Reply-To: <CAHTx_BOd377cVhE46iTZuU6yzp1=4w_frzOMOX0CgZiRiJTY6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKsgyTb1a+be84X+H_w5MPU6WMqUNFku14e21r0JayjVUgFa+w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABKuJEAK21fRS6nV-cbe8NOD-kqOufDzfmm=eWPrW7ES_Bh3gQ@mail.gmail.com>
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What exact model of TP-Link have you got?
I have a TP-Link AC1750 ADSL2+ modem router which is great except that
OpenWRT doesn't support this specific model's WiFi well (see multiple
"Notes" in https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer-c5-c7-wdr7500)
So I'm half-heartedly on the lookout for something to run OpenWRT or VyOS
on, with 1Gb ethernet and 802.11ac WiFi and which can be used to do smart
and efficient routing especially over OpenVPN tunnels.


On 8 March 2016 at 10:07, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il> wrote:

> Personally I don't bother with the modem/router supporting OpenWRT, I
> bought a nice TP-Link router which functions as the router of my
> networks and runs OpenWRT then the provider router/bridge/whatever box
> is just used as a bridge device and nothing more.
>
> There are far less xDSL devices that support *WRT and also you never
> know if the device you'll get from your provider is under your full
> control (these days with 2/3-play packages the router tends to not be
> under your control since it also does your VoIP/TV) so as far as I am
> concerned the provider-device is 'outside' my network and should be
> treated as such....
>
> Also the provider devices tend to have terrible firmware/updates which
> of course you want to salvage with *WRT.
>
> Regards,
> Eliyahu - ?????
>
> 2016-03-01 13:40 GMT+02:00 Rabin Yasharzadehe <rabin at rabin.io>:
> > In my opinion , a good place to start is this list -
> > http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/VDSL_Router/VDSL_Router.htm
> > find one/two that meet your demand, and then check if they have support
> for
> > openwrt/dd-wrt
> >
> > --
> > Rabin
> >
> > On 1 March 2016 at 12:43, sara fink <sara.fink at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone
> >>
> >> I would like to buy a vdsl2 router that supports openwrt or ddwrt.
> Anyone
> >> has experience with a good router? Xphone gives dlink 225 which doesn't
> >> support openwrt.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Linux-il mailing list
> >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
> >
>
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From efraim at flashner.co.il  Tue Mar  8 09:29:38 2016
From: efraim at flashner.co.il (Efraim Flashner)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 09:29:38 +0200
Subject: OT: SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <CABe4FJCDKdb=Umwt=-Josm_Jyw7vzJyHALZTJ6W1Vnd-O1u9ig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABe4FJCDKdb=Umwt=-Josm_Jyw7vzJyHALZTJ6W1Vnd-O1u9ig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160308092938.6d8a6089@debian-netbook>

I use wosign for my free certs. They're good for up to 3 years, free is good, and afaik they're in all the browsers. The website is in chinese though, so that can make it a bit challenging.

On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 07:05:03 +0200
Gabor Szabo <gabor at szabgab.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I think it's time to move some of my sites to use https, but as I only had
> self-signed ssl so far I wonder if you ppl have any recommendation where to
> get the certificate from and how much
> should I expect to pay?
> 
> I have one domain with about 20 subdomains (the translated versions of my
> articles)
> and a few other domains with 1-2, sometimes even more subdomains.
> 
> Most of them are probably considered commercial as they have ads on it and
> on some of them I even have a few subscribers, but they are, unfortunately,
> not a big business. Nevertheless I think this might exclude some "open
> source" providers.
> 
> I looked at http://www.cacert.org/ but as I can see the certificate they
> use on their own site is not recognized by either Chrome or Firefox. That
> does not seem to be a good thing. (See https://www.cacert.org/ )
> 
> A found plenty of companies offering SSL certificates. One of them
> https://www.ssl.com/
> that was recommended by the domain registrar I am using had
> $177 / year for the first 3 hostname and then $49 / year for each
> additional hostname and $129/year for each wildcard domain.
> 
> Is that a reasonable price? Any suggestions?
> 
> regards
>    Gabor



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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Tue Mar  8 12:01:00 2016
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:01:00 +0200
Subject: vdsl2 router
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2016-03-08 9:10 GMT+02:00 Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com>:

> What exact model of TP-Link have you got?
>
WR740N (v4.x), WR841ND (v5.x), WR1043ND (v1.x)

> I have a TP-Link AC1750 ADSL2+ modem router which is great except that
> OpenWRT doesn't support this specific model's WiFi well (see multiple
> "Notes" in https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer-c5-c7-wdr7500)
>
Did you check recently? The way I understand the notes v2 is fully
supported while v1.x only the 2.4GHz Band is supported (though they do
write that they don't do hardware NAT which will affect you if you have a
WAN line > 300MBit/s).

So I'm half-heartedly on the lookout for something to run OpenWRT or VyOS
> on, with 1Gb ethernet and 802.11ac WiFi and which can be used to do smart
> and efficient routing especially over OpenVPN tunnels.
>
Let us know if you find something.... in a few month OpenWRT should be
releasing 16.x (Designated Driver, if they manage to stick to the roughly
yearly releases) which may bring improved support for your existing device
considering how they already have half decent support there is someone (and
probably more then one someone) working on it....

If you want something really powerful with a very powerful OS have a look
at this:
http://routerboard.com/RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT

Regards,
Eliyahu - ?????

>
>
> On 8 March 2016 at 10:07, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il> wrote:
>
>> Personally I don't bother with the modem/router supporting OpenWRT, I
>> bought a nice TP-Link router which functions as the router of my
>> networks and runs OpenWRT then the provider router/bridge/whatever box
>> is just used as a bridge device and nothing more.
>>
>> There are far less xDSL devices that support *WRT and also you never
>> know if the device you'll get from your provider is under your full
>> control (these days with 2/3-play packages the router tends to not be
>> under your control since it also does your VoIP/TV) so as far as I am
>> concerned the provider-device is 'outside' my network and should be
>> treated as such....
>>
>> Also the provider devices tend to have terrible firmware/updates which
>> of course you want to salvage with *WRT.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eliyahu - ?????
>>
>> 2016-03-01 13:40 GMT+02:00 Rabin Yasharzadehe <rabin at rabin.io>:
>> > In my opinion , a good place to start is this list -
>> > http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/VDSL_Router/VDSL_Router.htm
>> > find one/two that meet your demand, and then check if they have support
>> for
>> > openwrt/dd-wrt
>> >
>> > --
>> > Rabin
>> >
>> > On 1 March 2016 at 12:43, sara fink <sara.fink at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Everyone
>> >>
>> >> I would like to buy a vdsl2 router that supports openwrt or ddwrt.
>> Anyone
>> >> has experience with a good router? Xphone gives dlink 225 which doesn't
>> >> support openwrt.
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Linux-il mailing list
>> >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Linux-il mailing list
>> > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>> >
>>
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>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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>
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>
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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Tue Mar  8 12:56:30 2016
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:56:30 +0200
Subject: vdsl2 router
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2016-03-08 12:27 GMT+02:00 geoffrey mendelson <geoffreymendelson at gmail.com>:
> On 3/8/2016 12:01 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Let us know if you find something.... in a few month OpenWRT should be
>> releasing 16.x (Designated Driver, if they manage to stick to the roughly
>> yearly releases) which may bring improved support for your existing device
>> considering how they already have half decent support there is someone (and
>> probably more then one someone) working on it....
>>
>> If you want something really powerful with a very powerful OS have a look
>> at this:
>> http://routerboard.com/RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT
>
> That looks like what I want, but I am sure it is too much money. I am
> looking for  two ethernet ports (one in, one out) and enough smarts to
> support GRE tunnels (such as an old cisco router, that friends in the US
> recycled by the 100's), or some form of open WRT. Anything else is extra,
> but not needed.
It is priced similarly to the high end TP-Links and has high end specs....
RouterOS (Mikrotik) is a very powerful router OS based on Linux used
in system critical applications but also available for home use.
>
> I think, besides finding old cisco routers in someone's junkpile (so far
> unsuccessful), a home grade wifi router would be perfect.
>
> Anyone have a WRT-54gl they want to get rid of cheaply?
If those are all your demands an ~80NIS WR740N meets you requirements
fully..... (though you need to be careful the latest revision seems to
only have experimental support)...

If anything the WR740N is more powerful then the wrt54gl and unlike
the wrt54gl can run the latest version of OpenWRT.

HTH,
Eliyahu - ?????
>
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
> Jerusalem Israel.
>


From shlomif at gmail.com  Tue Mar  8 13:30:51 2016
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 13:30:51 +0200
Subject: RFC: Creating an Israeli directory of Linux savvy Computer
 Professionals?
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Hi all,

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Amichai and everyone,
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il>
> wrote:
>
>> I mentioned this list as an example for how the list *shouldn't* look...
>>
>> It is also well hidden. The average Joe will not be able to use it and
>> will never find it...
>>
>> We (as a community) need to revamp the http://www.linux.org.il web site.
>> In it's current state, it looks like an outdated early 90s site...
>>
>> Amichai Rotman
>>
>>
> The sources for http://www.linux.org.il/ are maintained in a GitHub
> repository at https://github.com/Hamakor/linux.org.il . Filing pull
> requests or specific issues is welcome. If you can suggest modifications or
> solicit people to do that, then they will be considered.
>
> Talk is cheap and complaints are easy. Actually doing something about it
> is where it's at. See http://shlomif.livejournal.com/39215.html .
>
>
I have yet to hear back from Amichai regarding my suggestions, and it's
been over three weeks.

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish

-- 
------------------------------------------
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From gabor at szabgab.com  Tue Mar  8 21:33:17 2016
From: gabor at szabgab.com (Gabor Szabo)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 21:33:17 +0200
Subject: OT: SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <CAPxava-YqGKy2frb4_by481Y8wD4Ln0OwkVVi-APVNLS4DXMMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABe4FJCDKdb=Umwt=-Josm_Jyw7vzJyHALZTJ6W1Vnd-O1u9ig@mail.gmail.com>
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I am trying letsencrypt.org . <http://letsencrypt.org>
I just cloned their repo and started to follow their instructions, but then
they say "nginx support is experimental, buggy, and not installed by
default" and I am using nginx for most of my servers. I guess their nginx
support will come soon and I can wait a bit though I wonder, have any of
you used it on nginx?

regards
  Gabor




On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Michael Tewner <tewner at gmail.com> wrote:

> As far as I know, letsencrypt.org certs are only good for 90 days, and
> you'll want to have a script automatically renew and replace the cert in
> the background all the time.
> I like https://www.namecheap.com , as it helps you find the cheapest
> between different CA's.
> CACert is worthy of this community's support, but as you mentioned, their
> certs aren't included in any browsers or OS's.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Baruch Siach <baruch at tkos.co.il> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gabor,
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 07:05:03AM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
>> > A found plenty of companies offering SSL certificates. One of them
>> > https://www.ssl.com/
>> > that was recommended by the domain registrar I am using had
>> > $177 / year for the first 3 hostname and then $49 / year for each
>> > additional hostname and $129/year for each wildcard domain.
>> >
>> > Is that a reasonable price? Any suggestions?
>>
>> How about https://letsencrypt.org/ free certs?
>>
>> baruch
>>
>> --
>>      http://baruch.siach.name/blog/                  ~. .~   Tk Open
>> Systems
>>
>> =}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{=
>>    - baruch at tkos.co.il - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il -
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From linux-il at shimi.net  Tue Mar  8 21:47:16 2016
From: linux-il at shimi.net (shimi)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 21:47:16 +0200
Subject: OT: SSL certificates
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Gabor Szabo <gabor at szabgab.com> wrote:

> I am trying letsencrypt.org . <http://letsencrypt.org>
> I just cloned their repo and started to follow their instructions, but
> then they say "nginx support is experimental, buggy, and not installed by
> default" and I am using nginx for most of my servers. I guess their nginx
> support will come soon and I can wait a bit though I wonder, have any of
> you used it on nginx?
>
>
When they say 'nginx support' they mean 'automatically configuring nginx
for you'. There are plenty other ways (including manual, with other clients
that doesn't force you to provide them with root access to your machine) to
just issue the cert from a CSR, and install the cert normally on any web
server you want. See for example
https://tty1.net/blog/2015/using-letsencrypt-in-manual-mode_en.html and
https://github.com/diafygi/letsencrypt-nosudo

HTH,

-- Shimi
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From gabor at szabgab.com  Tue Mar  8 23:04:35 2016
From: gabor at szabgab.com (Gabor Szabo)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 23:04:35 +0200
Subject: OT: SSL certificates
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:47 PM, shimi <linux-il at shimi.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Gabor Szabo <gabor at szabgab.com> wrote:
>
>> I am trying letsencrypt.org . <http://letsencrypt.org>
>> I just cloned their repo and started to follow their instructions, but
>> then they say "nginx support is experimental, buggy, and not installed by
>> default" and I am using nginx for most of my servers. I guess their nginx
>> support will come soon and I can wait a bit though I wonder, have any of
>> you used it on nginx?
>>
>>
> When they say 'nginx support' they mean 'automatically configuring nginx
> for you'. There are plenty other ways (including manual, with other clients
> that doesn't force you to provide them with root access to your machine) to
> just issue the cert from a CSR, and install the cert normally on any web
> server you want. See for example
> https://tty1.net/blog/2015/using-letsencrypt-in-manual-mode_en.html and
> https://github.com/diafygi/letsencrypt-nosudo
>


Very useful links. Thanks

Gabor
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From tewner at gmail.com  Thu Mar 10 08:54:33 2016
From: tewner at gmail.com (Michael Tewner)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:54:33 +0200
Subject: [JOB] Scene53 is Looking for a Junior DevOps Engineer
Message-ID: <CAPxava812+d9aaLDoLafVAxebp7tZKCEGW=jF3XjTy+cJq2CHg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys!

Our company, Scene53, is looking for a Junior DevOps engineer.
Specifically, we're looking to hire a bright, challenge-driven, Linux user
to join our small team; We'll be happy to bring you up-to-speed on the
world of DevOps (for various definitions of "DevOps")!

Besides the standard DevOps fare, our team is responsible for all
infrastructure (Production and Dev), networking, and designing and
implementing new technical solutions as required. We are often involved
with working with the developers to tailor solutions which are scalable,
resilient, and self-healing.

Scene53 is an established startup in Tel Aviv (near Nachalat Binyamin); I
like to call it "A Silicon Valley Startup in Tel Aviv". We won TechCrunch
Disrupt a few years back for our Virtual Bar "Shaker" and have since
pivot'ed into other markets. We have a friendly and enjoyable work
environment. There are dogs, and lots of 'em, so keep that in mind if
you're interested in joining us!

Full disclosure: Being a small start-up, our team is also responsible for
all of the company's Windows-based infrastructure, including Active
Directory and desktop PC's. There will be a minimal amount of helping out
the other teams with PC issues, troubleshooting, and maintenance.

If you have a sincere, passionate desire to learn about the world of CI/CD,
NoSQL, Amazon cloud, and infrastructure, this is for you!

For anyone interested, please send over a CV and a short introduction!

Thank you, all!
-Mike
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From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Thu Mar 10 22:01:43 2016
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:01:43 +1100
Subject: vdsl2 router
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On 8 March 2016 at 21:01, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il> wrote:

>
>
> 2016-03-08 9:10 GMT+02:00 Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com>:
>
>> What exact model of TP-Link have you got?
>>
> WR740N (v4.x), WR841ND (v5.x), WR1043ND (v1.x)
>
>> I have a TP-Link AC1750 ADSL2+ modem router which is great except that
>> OpenWRT doesn't support this specific model's WiFi well (see multiple
>> "Notes" in https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer-c5-c7-wdr7500)
>>
> Did you check recently? The way I understand the notes v2 is fully
> supported while v1.x only the 2.4GHz Band is supported (though they do
> write that they don't do hardware NAT which will affect you if you have a
> WAN line > 300MBit/s).
>

I've just double checked this morning - the serial label on the router says
"v1.0", which means I can't take advantage of 802.11ac with OpenWRT on it
:(.


>
> So I'm half-heartedly on the lookout for something to run OpenWRT or VyOS
>> on, with 1Gb ethernet and 802.11ac WiFi and which can be used to do smart
>> and efficient routing especially over OpenVPN tunnels.
>>
> Let us know if you find something.... in a few month OpenWRT should be
> releasing 16.x (Designated Driver, if they manage to stick to the roughly
> yearly releases) which may bring improved support for your existing device
> considering how they already have half decent support there is someone (and
> probably more then one someone) working on it....
>
> If you want something really powerful with a very powerful OS have a look
> at this:
> http://routerboard.com/RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT
>

Perhaps my top priority, after having something that's flexible enough, is
hardware which won't take more than 3W to run.

Thanks,

--Amos
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From erez0001 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 23 09:22:06 2016
From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:22:06 +0200
Subject: revisioning mysql server
Message-ID: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>

hi

i have a running mysql server, and want to be able to restore it to any
day, with as little backup space as needed

i do mysqldump to the same file every day then commit the file with "svn ci"
the idea is that if there are no changes, it takes no space

it works well if i just append entries to a database, as svn will just save
the changes

however, if i insert a record, and for instance the dump file has 5 record
at every line
then the change is big and actually svn will save most of the file though
there is a very small change actually.

another issue - if the records hold changing info like timestamps etc.

any idea ?
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From nad.oby at gmail.com  Wed Mar 23 09:39:19 2016
From: nad.oby at gmail.com (Evgeniy Ginzburg)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:39:19 +0200
Subject: revisioning mysql server
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>
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You can try to switch to BUP https://bup.github.io/
This is GIT  based backup system, works fine in small scale scenarios.
It works OK with big files cause of chunk deduplication.


On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi
>
> i have a running mysql server, and want to be able to restore it to any
> day, with as little backup space as needed
>
> i do mysqldump to the same file every day then commit the file with "svn
> ci"
> the idea is that if there are no changes, it takes no space
>
> it works well if i just append entries to a database, as svn will just
> save the changes
>
> however, if i insert a record, and for instance the dump file has 5 record
> at every line
> then the change is big and actually svn will save most of the file though
> there is a very small change actually.
>
> another issue - if the records hold changing info like timestamps etc.
>
> any idea ?
>
>
>
>
>
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From efraim at flashner.co.il  Wed Mar 23 09:56:07 2016
From: efraim at flashner.co.il (Efraim Flashner)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:56:07 +0200
Subject: revisioning mysql server
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160323095607.7bb0d0b5@debian-netbook>

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:22:06 +0200
Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi
> 
> i have a running mysql server, and want to be able to restore it to any
> day, with as little backup space as needed
> 
> i do mysqldump to the same file every day then commit the file with "svn ci"
> the idea is that if there are no changes, it takes no space
> 
> it works well if i just append entries to a database, as svn will just save
> the changes
> 
> however, if i insert a record, and for instance the dump file has 5 record
> at every line
> then the change is big and actually svn will save most of the file though
> there is a very small change actually.
> 
> another issue - if the records hold changing info like timestamps etc.
> 
> any idea ?

Is there a program like mysql-diff that will compare two dumps and spit out a diff file? Or is it possible to copy the incoming commands to the database and write them to a separate file and back that up with a weekly snapshot of the database?

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From dotan at shavitos.com  Wed Mar 23 12:22:50 2016
From: dotan at shavitos.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=D7=93=D7=95=D7=AA=D7=9F_=D7=A9=D7=91=D7=99=D7=98?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:22:50 +0200
Subject: revisioning mysql server
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d416ac5c3df0e57f574bd65d2b1a0eca@integritymeter.com>

 

check mysqlbinlog 

# 

:??? Erez D, 2016-03-23 09:22 ?????? 

> hi
> 
> i have a running mysql server, and want to be able to restore it to any day, with as little backup space as needed
> 
> i do mysqldump to the same file every day then commit the file with "svn ci" the idea is that if there are no changes, it takes no space
> 
> it works well if i just append entries to a database, as svn will just save the changes 
> however, if i insert a record, and for instance the dump file has 5 record at every line then the change is big and actually svn will save most of the file though there is a very small change actually. 
> 
> another issue - if the records hold changing info like timestamps etc.
> 
> any idea ? 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
 
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From linux-il at shimi.net  Wed Mar 23 12:53:16 2016
From: linux-il at shimi.net (shimi)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:53:16 +0200
Subject: revisioning mysql server
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKnt4U_8F2TgCMfQf2TXL1u77DEN0L+x1eNP3wAcvTu-art_Rw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi
>
> i have a running mysql server, and want to be able to restore it to any
> day, with as little backup space as needed
>
> i do mysqldump to the same file every day then commit the file with "svn
> ci"
> the idea is that if there are no changes, it takes no space
>
> it works well if i just append entries to a database, as svn will just
> save the changes
>
> however, if i insert a record, and for instance the dump file has 5 record
> at every line
> then the change is big and actually svn will save most of the file though
> there is a very small change actually.
>
> another issue - if the records hold changing info like timestamps etc.
>
> any idea ?
>
>
What about xdelta[1] and saving the .xdelta files ? (from last copy or
original copy - your choice, but the cost of choosing the former to save
space would be that you'll have to roll the opposite operation in sequence
for any recovery)

-- Shimi

[1] http://xdelta.org/
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From shlomif at gmail.com  Wed Mar 23 13:25:37 2016
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:25:37 +0200
Subject: revisioning mysql server
In-Reply-To: <CAKnt4U_8F2TgCMfQf2TXL1u77DEN0L+x1eNP3wAcvTu-art_Rw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wmnFxrD3Y8BvfixTNfaxY4ntCvOsgNKWzX_QR_ogRLJtw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKnt4U_8F2TgCMfQf2TXL1u77DEN0L+x1eNP3wAcvTu-art_Rw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANy4znVSWoUKJRpdtqWVO2OentGhw7odr1KZNamE0CMwJS45zg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Shimi and Erez,

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:53 PM, shimi <linux-il at shimi.net> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> i have a running mysql server, and want to be able to restore it to any
>> day, with as little backup space as needed
>>
>> i do mysqldump to the same file every day then commit the file with "svn
>> ci"
>> the idea is that if there are no changes, it takes no space
>>
>> it works well if i just append entries to a database, as svn will just
>> save the changes
>>
>> however, if i insert a record, and for instance the dump file has 5
>> record at every line
>> then the change is big and actually svn will save most of the file though
>> there is a very small change actually.
>>
>> another issue - if the records hold changing info like timestamps etc.
>>
>> any idea ?
>>
>>
> What about xdelta[1] and saving the .xdelta files ? (from last copy or
> original copy - your choice, but the cost of choosing the former to save
> space would be that you'll have to roll the opposite operation in sequence
> for any recovery)
>
>
Subversion already uses xdelta (or its alternative vdelta) internally for
keeping track of binary diffs, so this will likely not buy you much (and
add a lot of complexity to the process). I believe git and mercurial/hg can
handle binary diffs well in a similar manner. As a result, one cannot rely
on the textual "diff -u" output to accurately indicate the change size
(e.g: changing one byte in a line of thousands of bytes will yield a
thousands-bytes diff -u , but be a very small binary change).

Regards,

? Shlomi Fish


> -- Shimi
>
> [1] http://xdelta.org/
>
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From shlomif at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 14:49:48 2016
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:49:48 +0300
Subject: Can someone chat with me in mixed Hebrew/Latin using Pidgin over
 XMPP/Jabber?
Message-ID: <CANy4znUHEv5dKtyyXNwBL+Dq5n4yHy7p9d-p9pm-aOH=NOWpcQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all!

I'm trying to comply with this comment on this bug report in the pidgin
facebook plugin that I opened:

https://github.com/jgeboski/purple-facebook/issues/233

I was told to check whether Mixed HEbrew/Latin is displayed correctly over
XMPP/Jabber.

I need someone who:

1. Can type in Hebrew and Latin/English.

2. Uses Pidgin versioon 2.10.x

3. Can talk with me at my ShlomiFish at jabber.org account (and that excludes
GMail/GTalk/GChat/GoogleHangouts which only support a client-side XMPP
bridge).

Best regards,

-- Shlomi Fish

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From shlomif at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 20:10:09 2016
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:10:09 +0300
Subject: Can someone chat with me in mixed Hebrew/Latin using Pidgin over
 XMPP/Jabber?
In-Reply-To: <CANy4znUHEv5dKtyyXNwBL+Dq5n4yHy7p9d-p9pm-aOH=NOWpcQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANy4znUHEv5dKtyyXNwBL+Dq5n4yHy7p9d-p9pm-aOH=NOWpcQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANy4znWB2rUE6DvA9Kie5JYGB9VzWZtWGwUTmwNxeoy9mD+twg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

two people have already complied with my request and we verified that the
problem does not happen with the XMPP protocl, so no further assistance is
required.


Thanks!

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish


On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I'm trying to comply with this comment on this bug report in the pidgin
> facebook plugin that I opened:
>
> https://github.com/jgeboski/purple-facebook/issues/233
>
> I was told to check whether Mixed HEbrew/Latin is displayed correctly over
> XMPP/Jabber.
>
> I need someone who:
>
> 1. Can type in Hebrew and Latin/English.
>
> 2. Uses Pidgin versioon 2.10.x
>
> 3. Can talk with me at my ShlomiFish at jabber.org account (and that
> excludes GMail/GTalk/GChat/GoogleHangouts which only support a client-side
> XMPP bridge).
>
> Best regards,
>
> -- Shlomi Fish
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------
> Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/
>
> Chuck Norris helps the gods that help themselves.
>
> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
>



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From shlomif at gmail.com  Thu Mar 31 22:56:28 2016
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 22:56:28 +0300
Subject: [ANN] Understanding Vim's excalamation mark command quoting/escaping
 rules
Message-ID: <CANy4znV8XXBQ-TtO4OVJuJiO7eJ-H5MLW+vUZiQz58VFNJcjxw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all!

I prepared a document where I investigated which characters need to be
escaped in vim's ":!" commands of filtering the text through a shell
command. It can be found here:

https://github.com/shlomif/vim-begin/tree/master/understanding-exclamation-mark-shell-exec--escaping-rules

(short URL: http://is.gd/wA8Yie )



Executive summary:

- ?%?, ?#?, and ?!? should be escaped with a backslash (?\?).

- All other punctuation/special characters (including a backslash)
need not and should not be escaped.

Enjoy!

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish

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