From david at davidsconsultants.com  Thu Jan  5 14:44:00 2017
From: david at davidsconsultants.com (David Suna)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 14:44:00 +0200
Subject: sendmail or ssmtp or ??
Message-ID: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>

I have an Ubuntu machine that I am using to develop PHP based web 
application. I now need to configure it so that PHP can send out mail. 
The default seems to be to install sendmail. However, I have seen 
comments that sendmail is overkill and some references to ssmtp.

What would be the recommended way to configure this? Sendmail, ssmtp or 
something else?

Thanks,

-- 
David Suna
david at davidsconsultants.com



From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Thu Jan  5 15:04:59 2017
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 15:04:59 +0200
Subject: sendmail or ssmtp or ??
In-Reply-To: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>
References: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BMr1cDmN5uTT2M2HnhOPp+qQaiQgoEZmF1nAH87LueSZQ@mail.gmail.com>

In the debian world a machine used to ship with exim4, Ubuntu Server
prefers postfix afaik but sendmail is also available through apt.

Basically there's a ton of SMTP servers out there and you'll have to
do that very hard thing: choose ;)
A lot has been written comparing them and all of them are I believe
well documented.

Good luck,
Eliyahu - ?????

2017-01-05 14:44 GMT+02:00 David Suna <david at davidsconsultants.com>:
> I have an Ubuntu machine that I am using to develop PHP based web
> application. I now need to configure it so that PHP can send out mail. The
> default seems to be to install sendmail. However, I have seen comments that
> sendmail is overkill and some references to ssmtp.
>
> What would be the recommended way to configure this? Sendmail, ssmtp or
> something else?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> David Suna
> david at davidsconsultants.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rabin at rabin.io  Thu Jan  5 15:04:57 2017
From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2017 13:04:57 +0000
Subject: sendmail or ssmtp or ??
In-Reply-To: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>
References: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <CABKuJEBvowDO5g5Kx1260zqjH7=bwJ0L-9ynzRhb2WN-COepOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Why not Postfix?

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017, 14:45 David Suna, <david at davidsconsultants.com> wrote:

> I have an Ubuntu machine that I am using to develop PHP based web
> application. I now need to configure it so that PHP can send out mail.
> The default seems to be to install sendmail. However, I have seen
> comments that sendmail is overkill and some references to ssmtp.
>
> What would be the recommended way to configure this? Sendmail, ssmtp or
> something else?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> David Suna
> david at davidsconsultants.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
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From tzafrir at cohens.org.il  Thu Jan  5 15:45:58 2017
From: tzafrir at cohens.org.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 14:45:58 +0100
Subject: sendmail or ssmtp or ??
In-Reply-To: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>
References: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <20170105134558.GT18690@lemon.cohens.org.il>

On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 02:44:00PM +0200, David Suna wrote:
> I have an Ubuntu machine that I am using to develop PHP based web
> application. I now need to configure it so that PHP can send out mail. The
> default seems to be to install sendmail. However, I have seen comments that
> sendmail is overkill and some references to ssmtp.

The main difference is that ssmtp and nullmailer (and other similar
"sendmails") don't queue. This greatly simplifies them.

> 
> What would be the recommended way to configure this? Sendmail, ssmtp or
> something else?

I tried using ssmtp for some servers. It lacked too many basic features.
Nullmailer came closer. I don't recall the specific issues now, though.
But I ended up using either postfix. Or even exim4 in some cases where I
didn't bother.

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Thu Jan  5 22:34:59 2017
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 15:34:59 -0500
Subject: sendmail or ssmtp or ??
In-Reply-To: <20170105134558.GT18690@lemon.cohens.org.il>
References: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>
 <20170105134558.GT18690@lemon.cohens.org.il>
Message-ID: <20170105153459.76014363@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 14:45:58 +0100
Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir at cohens.org.il> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 02:44:00PM +0200, David Suna wrote:
> > I have an Ubuntu machine that I am using to develop PHP based web
> > application. I now need to configure it so that PHP can send out
> > mail. The default seems to be to install sendmail. However, I have
> > seen comments that sendmail is overkill and some references to
> > ssmtp.  
> 
> The main difference is that ssmtp and nullmailer (and other similar
> "sendmails") don't queue. This greatly simplifies them.
> 
> > 
> > What would be the recommended way to configure this? Sendmail,
> > ssmtp or something else?  
> 
> I tried using ssmtp for some servers. It lacked too many basic
> features. Nullmailer came closer. I don't recall the specific issues
> now, though. But I ended up using either postfix. Or even exim4 in
> some cases where I didn't bother.

Nullmailer queues. It doesn't perform some other SMTP functionalities,
but it queues. You can see it happen by ls'ing the queue directory
while sending a bunch of email with it.

I've never been able to have Nullmailer deliver messages to my local
machine, probably because I just don't know how.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
December 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21


From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Fri Jan  6 12:17:30 2017
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 21:17:30 +1100
Subject: sendmail or ssmtp or ??
In-Reply-To: <20170105153459.76014363@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <11db23ff-0350-c162-d633-8b0373b7eb5d@davidsconsultants.com>
 <20170105134558.GT18690@lemon.cohens.org.il>
 <20170105153459.76014363@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <CAF9n_WUu=2pvQzmg5w+eMO5QasqHnujd4z27-xvp=QDVNmLmBw@mail.gmail.com>

Why do you need an SMTP server? You need an SMTP client talking to
whichever SMTP server your hosting provider provides you.
e.g. https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer (I only remember it because of
a security flaw published about it last week, but it's PHP so... meh.)

On 6 January 2017 at 07:34, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 14:45:58 +0100
> Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir at cohens.org.il> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 02:44:00PM +0200, David Suna wrote:
> > > I have an Ubuntu machine that I am using to develop PHP based web
> > > application. I now need to configure it so that PHP can send out
> > > mail. The default seems to be to install sendmail. However, I have
> > > seen comments that sendmail is overkill and some references to
> > > ssmtp.
> >
> > The main difference is that ssmtp and nullmailer (and other similar
> > "sendmails") don't queue. This greatly simplifies them.
> >
> > >
> > > What would be the recommended way to configure this? Sendmail,
> > > ssmtp or something else?
> >
> > I tried using ssmtp for some servers. It lacked too many basic
> > features. Nullmailer came closer. I don't recall the specific issues
> > now, though. But I ended up using either postfix. Or even exim4 in
> > some cases where I didn't bother.
>
> Nullmailer queues. It doesn't perform some other SMTP functionalities,
> but it queues. You can see it happen by ls'ing the queue directory
> while sending a bunch of email with it.
>
> I've never been able to have Nullmailer deliver messages to my local
> machine, probably because I just don't know how.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> December 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
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