From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Fri Jun 2 01:12:33 2017 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 01:12:33 +0300 Subject: [OT] Any Cellphone providers have a non-NAT option Message-ID: Hi all, I was told by Bezeq that they currently don't have infrastructure where I am living so I'm looking at using a cellular modem instead. Ideally I'd like to have some remote access to home but if the Cellular network is Carrier Grade NAT I can forget about that (unless I create a reverse SSH tunnel from one of my servers which I guess can be an option). Is any carrier offering 3/4G with real IP(v6) addresses? Thanks, Eliyahu - ????? From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Fri Jun 2 01:14:39 2017 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 01:14:39 +0300 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For those of you who are interested: As of 5.3 LO no longer supports Type1 fonts which is how the culmus-fancy font set ships. The best solution is to convert them to OpenType or TrueType fonts. HTH, Eliyahu - ????? 2017-05-26 2:36 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg : > Hi everyone, > I just noticed that LibreOffice on Ubuntu 17.04 seems to be > ignoring/not detecting fonts that are part of the culmus- packages. > Abiword does detect the fonts. > Has anyone else had issues like this? Know how to solve this? > Thanks, > Eliyahu - ????? From tsnoam at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:21:44 2017 From: tsnoam at gmail.com (Noam Meltzer) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2017 17:21:44 +0000 Subject: [OT] Any Cellphone providers have a non-NAT option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Partner are offering "real" IPv4 address for an extra fee to their business customers. I've previously set such a configuration for my parents in law and for the past 3.5 years it's working flawlessly AFAIK. I don't know if they offer IPv6 and the reasons for originally choosing Partner are non technical. - Noam On Fri, Jun 2, 2017, 01:13 E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > Hi all, > I was told by Bezeq that they currently don't have infrastructure > where I am living so I'm looking at using a cellular modem instead. > Ideally I'd like to have some remote access to home but if the > Cellular network is Carrier Grade NAT I can forget about that (unless > I create a reverse SSH tunnel from one of my servers which I guess can > be an option). > > Is any carrier offering 3/4G with real IP(v6) addresses? > Thanks, > Eliyahu - ????? > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rosenberg wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I was told by Bezeq that they currently don't have infrastructure >> where I am living so I'm looking at using a cellular modem instead. >> Ideally I'd like to have some remote access to home but if the >> Cellular network is Carrier Grade NAT I can forget about that (unless >> I create a reverse SSH tunnel from one of my servers which I guess can >> be an option). >> >> Is any carrier offering 3/4G with real IP(v6) addresses? >> Thanks, >> Eliyahu - ????? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il From Lists-Linux-IL at ira.abramov.org Sun Jun 4 17:32:10 2017 From: Lists-Linux-IL at ira.abramov.org (Ira Abramov) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 17:32:10 +0300 Subject: Debian stretch launch get-together Message-ID: <20170604143210.GA171585@ira.abramov.org> In case anyone missed my post to Hamakor (http://hamakor.org.il/pipermail/discussions/2017-May/006891.html) Here's a re-do: we have 6 people (and counting) meeting on Saturday 17/6 at Porter & Sons (Tel Aviv). Anyone here wants to join? Please answer me off-list. Thanks, Ira. -- First human clone Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ From erez0001 at gmail.com Mon Jun 5 18:13:50 2017 From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 18:13:50 +0300 Subject: [OT] Any Cellphone providers have a non-NAT option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: last time i checked (a year ago) with celcom, it depended on the APN sphone - used NAT internetg - did not use NAT On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 1:12 AM, E.S. 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URL: From rabin at rabin.io Thu Jun 8 11:17:09 2017 From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 11:17:09 +0300 Subject: Help configuring Multiboot from ISOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: my 2c for this thread, - when I created my multi-boot USB I had to defrag the ISO after copying them to the USB, other wise the ISO won't boot properly. - I used a simple tool like - https://www.pendrivelinux.com/tag/multiboot-iso/ to create the inital menu , and extended it manually. -- Rabin On 8 June 2017 at 09:35, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hello all, > > I am trying to set up a desktop kiosk-style computer at my local Library, > based on Ubuntu. > > My idea is to have a regular desktop mainly for browsing the Web, but I > would also like it to be able to reboot into an ISO by clicking an icon on > the Launcher. > > I specifically would like to use the Linux Gamers.net [1] and another ISO > compressed as squashfs and using syslinux to boot. > > I am having trouble configuring the GRUB2 menu > ? ? > entries to boot these as ISOs and I have no idea how to create a launcher > to boot the computer to the ISOs. > > The computer isn't strong enough for a VM... > > [1] http://live.linux-gamers.net > > Thank you, > > Amichai > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Thu Jun 8 11:44:42 2017 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 11:44:42 +0300 Subject: Help configuring Multiboot from ISOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2017-06-08 9:35 GMT+03:00 Amichai Rotman : > Hello all, > > I am trying to set up a desktop kiosk-style computer at my local Library, > based on Ubuntu. > > My idea is to have a regular desktop mainly for browsing the Web, but I > would also like it to be able to reboot into an ISO by clicking an icon on > the Launcher. Why? In what way does this help your user? > > I specifically would like to use the Linux Gamers.net [1] and another ISO > compressed as squashfs and using syslinux to boot. > > I am having trouble configuring the GRUB2 menu > > entries to boot these as ISOs and I have no idea how to create a launcher to > boot the computer to the ISOs. > > The computer isn't strong enough for a VM... > > [1] http://live.linux-gamers.net > > Thank you, > > Amichai > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Thu Jun 8 11:47:09 2017 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 11:47:09 +0300 Subject: Help configuring Multiboot from ISOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2017-06-08 11:44 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg : > 2017-06-08 9:35 GMT+03:00 Amichai Rotman : >> Hello all, >> >> I am trying to set up a desktop kiosk-style computer at my local Library, >> based on Ubuntu. >> >> My idea is to have a regular desktop mainly for browsing the Web, but I >> would also like it to be able to reboot into an ISO by clicking an icon on >> the Launcher. > Why? In what way does this help your user? >> >> I specifically would like to use the Linux Gamers.net [1] and another ISO >> compressed as squashfs and using syslinux to boot. You realize their distro hasn't been updated in over 6 years? >> >> I am having trouble configuring the GRUB2 menu >> >> entries to boot these as ISOs and I have no idea how to create a launcher to >> boot the computer to the ISOs. >> >> The computer isn't strong enough for a VM... >> >> [1] http://live.linux-gamers.net >> >> Thank you, >> >> Amichai >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> From amichai at iglu.org.il Tue Jun 13 14:43:34 2017 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 14:43:34 +0300 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine Message-ID: Hey All, I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd educate them with the Libre Software values... I didn't realize how hard it will be! They saved up their allowance and bought the following: Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM 256GB SSD 2X SteamControllers My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a black screen after the first boot. I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and finding games - and make them work. My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - yet... A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost a year ago! I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to come over and help me out with making it work. I live in Haifa. Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be appreciated. Amichai Rotman. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 15:25:27 2017 From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (Geoffrey Mendelson) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:25:27 +0000 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Get an actual graphics card. Nvidia are the best. Make sure your power supply can handle it. You probably will have to install Windows on it. There are not of games that actually run on Linux. Tip. Go to the Micrsoft Windows download page on your phone. It will give you a link to download an iso file. The link can be used anywhere and is good for 24 hours. When you install windows, you will be asked for an activation code. Hit enter with no code. You then have 30 days to delete windows or buy a code. Buy a real code from a reputable vendor, not an oem code from eBay or an online vendor. Geoff. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 14:44 Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hey All, > > I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. > > Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd > educate them with the Libre Software values... > > I didn't realize how hard it will be! > > They saved up their allowance and bought the following: > > Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ > Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU > 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM > 256GB SSD > 2X SteamControllers > > My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a > black screen after the first boot. > > I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. > > I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and > finding games - and make them work. > > My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - > yet... > > A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a > couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... > > I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost > a year ago! > > I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to > come over and help me out with making it work. > > I live in Haifa. > > Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be > appreciated. > > Amichai Rotman. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -- >From my tablet please pardon mistakes and lack of replies. Geoffrey Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ Jerusalem Israel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amichai at iglu.org.il Tue Jun 13 15:43:49 2017 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:43:49 +0300 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, Geoffery, Would it be better to make it a MAME Machine? Amichai 2017-06-13 15:25 GMT+03:00 Geoffrey Mendelson : > Get an actual graphics card. Nvidia are the best. Make sure your power > supply can handle it. > > You probably will have to install Windows on it. There are not of games > that actually run on Linux. > > Tip. Go to the Micrsoft Windows download page on your phone. It will give > you a link to download an iso file. The link can be used anywhere and is > good for 24 hours. > > When you install windows, you will be asked for an activation code. Hit > enter with no code. You then have 30 days to delete windows or buy a code. > Buy a real code from a reputable vendor, not an oem code from eBay or an > online vendor. > > Geoff. > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 14:44 Amichai Rotman wrote: > >> Hey All, >> >> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. >> >> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd >> educate them with the Libre Software values... >> >> I didn't realize how hard it will be! >> >> They saved up their allowance and bought the following: >> >> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ >> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU >> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM >> 256GB SSD >> 2X SteamControllers >> >> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got >> a black screen after the first boot. >> >> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. >> >> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers >> and finding games - and make them work. >> >> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - >> yet... >> >> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a >> couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... >> >> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost >> a year ago! >> >> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing >> to come over and help me out with making it work. >> >> I live in Haifa. >> >> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be >> appreciated. >> >> Amichai Rotman. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > -- > > From my tablet please pardon mistakes and lack of replies. > Geoffrey Mendelson > 4X1GM/N3OWJ > Jerusalem Israel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 16:05:21 2017 From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (Geoffrey Mendelson) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 13:05:21 +0000 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It may be more fun, but 99% of the ROM images are bootleg. You could try MineCraft it will run. It is a modern game with guy 1980 graphics. Geoff. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 15:44 Amichai Rotman wrote: > Thank you, Geoffery, > > Would it be better to make it a MAME Machine? > > Amichai > > 2017-06-13 15:25 GMT+03:00 Geoffrey Mendelson >: > >> Get an actual graphics card. Nvidia are the best. Make sure your power >> supply can handle it. >> >> You probably will have to install Windows on it. There are not of games >> that actually run on Linux. >> >> Tip. Go to the Micrsoft Windows download page on your phone. It will give >> you a link to download an iso file. The link can be used anywhere and is >> good for 24 hours. >> >> When you install windows, you will be asked for an activation code. Hit >> enter with no code. You then have 30 days to delete windows or buy a code. >> Buy a real code from a reputable vendor, not an oem code from eBay or an >> online vendor. >> >> Geoff. >> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 14:44 Amichai Rotman wrote: >> >>> Hey All, >>> >>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. >>> >>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought >>> I'd educate them with the Libre Software values... >>> >>> I didn't realize how hard it will be! >>> >>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following: >>> >>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ >>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU >>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM >>> 256GB SSD >>> 2X SteamControllers >>> >>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got >>> a black screen after the first boot. >>> >>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. >>> >>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers >>> and finding games - and make them work. >>> >>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - >>> yet... >>> >>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a >>> couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... >>> >>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. >>> Almost a year ago! >>> >>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing >>> to come over and help me out with making it work. >>> >>> I live in Haifa. >>> >>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be >>> appreciated. >>> >>> Amichai Rotman. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linux-il mailing list >>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>> >> -- >> >> From my tablet please pardon mistakes and lack of replies. >> Geoffrey Mendelson >> 4X1GM/N3OWJ >> Jerusalem Israel >> > > -- >From my tablet please pardon mistakes and lack of replies. Geoffrey Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ Jerusalem Israel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gilboad at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 12:29:23 2017 From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 12:29:23 +0300 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman wrote: > > Hey All, > > I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. > Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd educate them with the Libre Software values... > I didn't realize how hard it will be! > They saved up their allowance and bought the following: > > Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ > Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU > 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM > 256GB SSD > 2X SteamControllers I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card. Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will do just fine. That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g. FHD T.V or LCD. (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above). > My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a black screen after the first boot. > I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons, GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K). Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running. > I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and finding games - and make them work. Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero experience with it. > My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - yet... > A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... > I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost a year ago! > I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to come over and help me out with making it work. Specific issues? > I live in Haifa. > Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be appreciated. > Amichai Rotman. PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming. - Gilboa From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Wed Jun 14 17:42:21 2017 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 17:42:21 +0300 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise you won't get performance. These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or Humblebundle. I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day) some don't. As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style gaming. Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high enough priority, please let us know what you think of said controllers. HTH, Eliyahu - ????? 2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara : > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman wrote: >> >> Hey All, >> >> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. >> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd educate them with the Libre Software values... >> I didn't realize how hard it will be! >> They saved up their allowance and bought the following: >> >> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ >> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU >> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM >> 256GB SSD >> 2X SteamControllers > > > I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card. > Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will > do just fine. > > That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g. > FHD T.V or LCD. > (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above). > > >> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a black screen after the first boot. >> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. > > I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons, > GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K). > Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running. > > >> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and finding games - and make them work. > > Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero > experience with it. > > >> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - yet... >> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... >> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost a year ago! >> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to come over and help me out with making it work. > > > Specific issues? > > >> I live in Haifa. >> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be appreciated. >> Amichai Rotman. > > > PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to > the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming. > > - Gilboa > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Wed Jun 14 17:45:05 2017 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 17:45:05 +0300 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2017-06-14 17:42 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg : > As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without > that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise > you won't get performance. Should really have said: SteamOS and/or up-to-date gaming. > > These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good > top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or > Humblebundle. > > I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an > nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some > games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day) > some don't. > > As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet > is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the > steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games > that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other > controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or > X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style > gaming. > Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have > been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high > enough priority, please let us know what you think of said > controllers. > > HTH, > Eliyahu - ????? > > 2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara : >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman wrote: >>> >>> Hey All, >>> >>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. >>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd educate them with the Libre Software values... >>> I didn't realize how hard it will be! >>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following: >>> >>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ >>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU >>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM >>> 256GB SSD >>> 2X SteamControllers >> >> >> I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card. >> Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will >> do just fine. >> >> That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g. >> FHD T.V or LCD. >> (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above). >> >> >>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a black screen after the first boot. >>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. >> >> I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons, >> GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K). >> Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running. >> >> >>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and finding games - and make them work. >> >> Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero >> experience with it. >> >> >>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - yet... >>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... >>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost a year ago! >>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to come over and help me out with making it work. >> >> >> Specific issues? >> >> >>> I live in Haifa. >>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be appreciated. >>> Amichai Rotman. >> >> >> PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to >> the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming. Don't forget PS4 actually runs some form of *BSD so that wouldn't be a total abandonment of principles ;) HTH, Eliyahu - ????? >> >> - Gilboa >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 19:42:02 2017 From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (Geoffrey Mendelson) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:42:02 +0000 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I spoke to my sons who are gamers and both said the choice of steam games under linux is very limited and many are buggy. The both suggested that you should buy the games they want, not the ones that fit your politics. As someone who uses Windows, Linux (ubuntu x64 and android) and iOS daily, I agree with them. Geoff. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 17:45 E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > 2017-06-14 17:42 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg : > > As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without > > that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise > > you won't get performance. > Should really have said: SteamOS and/or up-to-date gaming. > > > > These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good > > top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or > > Humblebundle. > > > > I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an > > nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some > > games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day) > > some don't. > > > > As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet > > is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the > > steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games > > that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other > > controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or > > X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style > > gaming. > > Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have > > been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high > > enough priority, please let us know what you think of said > > controllers. > > > > HTH, > > Eliyahu - ????? > > > > 2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara : > >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey All, > >>> > >>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. > >>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought > I'd educate them with the Libre Software values... > >>> I didn't realize how hard it will be! > >>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following: > >>> > >>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ > >>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU > >>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM > >>> 256GB SSD > >>> 2X SteamControllers > >> > >> > >> I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card. > >> Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will > >> do just fine. > >> > >> That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g. > >> FHD T.V or LCD. > >> (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above). > >> > >> > >>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - > got a black screen after the first boot. > >>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. > >> > >> I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons, > >> GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K). > >> Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running. > >> > >> > >>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers > and finding games - and make them work. > >> > >> Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero > >> experience with it. > >> > >> > >>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - > yet... > >>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with > a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... > >>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. > Almost a year ago! > >>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be > willing to come over and help me out with making it work. > >> > >> > >> Specific issues? > >> > >> > >>> I live in Haifa. > >>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be > appreciated. > >>> Amichai Rotman. > >> > >> > >> PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to > >> the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming. > Don't forget PS4 actually runs some form of *BSD so that wouldn't be a > total abandonment of principles ;) > > HTH, > Eliyahu - ????? > >> > >> - Gilboa > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Linux-il mailing list > >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -- >From my tablet please pardon mistakes and lack of replies. Geoffrey Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ Jerusalem Israel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Wed Jun 14 20:05:39 2017 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 20:05:39 +0300 Subject: Building a Linux-based Game Machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2017-06-14 19:42 GMT+03:00 Geoffrey Mendelson : > I spoke to my sons who are gamers and both said the choice of steam games > under linux is very limited and many are buggy. Though more limited then windows the statement is not accurate anymore, Valve are pushing devs hard and a lot of top titles are available for Linux as a result (without even speaking about the option of running [Steam] games through of Wine). > > The both suggested that you should buy the games they want, not the ones > that fit your politics. This is true. > > As someone who uses Windows, Linux (ubuntu x64 and android) and iOS daily, I > agree with them. > > Geoff. > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 17:45 E.S. Rosenberg wrote: >> >> 2017-06-14 17:42 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg : >> > As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without >> > that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise >> > you won't get performance. >> Should really have said: SteamOS and/or up-to-date gaming. >> > >> > These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good >> > top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or >> > Humblebundle. >> > >> > I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an >> > nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some >> > games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day) >> > some don't. >> > >> > As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet >> > is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the >> > steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games >> > that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other >> > controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or >> > X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style >> > gaming. >> > Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have >> > been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high >> > enough priority, please let us know what you think of said >> > controllers. >> > >> > HTH, >> > Eliyahu - ????? >> > >> > 2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara : >> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hey All, >> >>> >> >>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids. >> >>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought >> >>> I'd educate them with the Libre Software values... >> >>> I didn't realize how hard it will be! >> >>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following: >> >>> >> >>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/ >> >>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU >> >>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM >> >>> 256GB SSD >> >>> 2X SteamControllers >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card. >> >> Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will >> >> do just fine. >> >> >> >> That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g. >> >> FHD T.V or LCD. >> >> (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above). >> >> >> >> >> >>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - >> >>> got a black screen after the first boot. >> >>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client. >> >> >> >> I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons, >> >> GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K). >> >> Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running. >> >> >> >> >> >>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers >> >>> and finding games - and make them work. >> >> >> >> Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero >> >> experience with it. >> >> >> >> >> >>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - >> >>> yet... >> >>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with >> >>> a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache... >> >>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. >> >>> Almost a year ago! >> >>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be >> >>> willing to come over and help me out with making it work. >> >> >> >> >> >> Specific issues? >> >> >> >> >> >>> I live in Haifa. >> >>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be >> >>> appreciated. >> >>> Amichai Rotman. >> >> >> >> >> >> PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to >> >> the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming. >> Don't forget PS4 actually runs some form of *BSD so that wouldn't be a >> total abandonment of principles ;) >> >> HTH, >> Eliyahu - ????? >> >> >> >> - Gilboa >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Linux-il mailing list >> >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -- > > From my tablet please pardon mistakes and lack of replies. > Geoffrey Mendelson > 4X1GM/N3OWJ > Jerusalem Israel From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 13:32:28 2017 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:32:28 +0300 Subject: Arduino on Mageia linux Message-ID: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> I installed the Arduino IDE from Mageia RPMs and added my user to the lock group as instructed. In the tools >> serial port menu, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0 - only /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1. I tried both of them but could not upload a program. I read that sometimes Arduino needs to be run as root, so I tried that too with no success. Here's what I get when I try to upload: Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 14:20:53 2017 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:20:53 +0300 Subject: Arduino on Mageia linux In-Reply-To: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> References: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> Message-ID: <20170620142053.29a80c0a@shlomo1.solomon> Sorry - just noticed I cut off part of the error message, so here it is again: WARNING: RXTX Version mismatch Jar version = RXTX-2.2 native lib Version = RXTX-2.2pre2 Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:32:28 +0300 Shlomo Solomon wrote: > I installed the Arduino IDE from Mageia RPMs and added my user to the > lock group as instructed. > > In the tools >> serial port menu, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0 - > only /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1. I tried both of them but could not > upload a program. I read that sometimes Arduino needs to be run as > root, so I tried that too with no success. Here's what I get when I > try to upload: > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 From rabin at rabin.io Tue Jun 20 15:04:57 2017 From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:04:57 +0300 Subject: Arduino on Mageia linux In-Reply-To: <20170620142053.29a80c0a@shlomo1.solomon> References: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> <20170620142053.29a80c0a@shlomo1.solomon> Message-ID: what is the output of `dmesg` when you connect the device to the machine ? e.g, should be something like this, [393503.604738] usb 1-4.2: new full-speed USB device number 71 using xhci_hcd [393503.698674] usb 1-4.2: New USB device found, idVendor=1a86, idProduct=7523 [393503.698678] usb 1-4.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 [393503.698681] usb 1-4.2: Product: USB2.0-Serial [393503.757764] usbcore: registered new interface driver ch341 [393503.757789] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for ch341-uart [393503.757808] ch341 1-4.2:1.0: ch341-uart converter detected [393503.758600] usb 1-4.2: ch341-uart converter now attached to ttyUSB0 -- Rabin On 20 June 2017 at 14:20, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > Sorry - just noticed I cut off part of the error message, so here it is > again: > > WARNING: RXTX Version mismatch > Jar version = RXTX-2.2 > native lib Version = RXTX-2.2pre2 > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:32:28 +0300 > Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > > I installed the Arduino IDE from Mageia RPMs and added my user to the > > lock group as instructed. > > > > In the tools >> serial port menu, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0 - > > only /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1. I tried both of them but could not > > upload a program. I read that sometimes Arduino needs to be run as > > root, so I tried that too with no success. Here's what I get when I > > try to upload: > > > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > > > > > > > > -- > Shlomo Solomon > http://the-solomons.net > Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 15:23:23 2017 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:23:23 +0300 Subject: Arduino on Mageia linux In-Reply-To: References: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> <20170620142053.29a80c0a@shlomo1.solomon> Message-ID: <20170620152323.3e9f26cd@shlomo1.solomon> Stupid of me not to have looked at dmesg before writing. It turned out to be a bad USB cable - so I wasn't connecting :-( Thanks for pointing me in the write direction On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:04:57 +0300 Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote: > what is the output of `dmesg` when you connect the device to the > machine ? > > e.g, should be something like this, > > [393503.604738] usb 1-4.2: new full-speed USB device number 71 using > xhci_hcd > [393503.698674] usb 1-4.2: New USB device found, idVendor=1a86, > idProduct=7523 > [393503.698678] usb 1-4.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, > SerialNumber=0 > [393503.698681] usb 1-4.2: Product: USB2.0-Serial > [393503.757764] usbcore: registered new interface driver ch341 > [393503.757789] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for > ch341-uart [393503.757808] ch341 1-4.2:1.0: ch341-uart converter > detected [393503.758600] usb 1-4.2: ch341-uart converter now attached > to ttyUSB0 > > > -- > Rabin > > On 20 June 2017 at 14:20, Shlomo Solomon > wrote: > > > Sorry - just noticed I cut off part of the error message, so here > > it is again: > > > > WARNING: RXTX Version mismatch > > Jar version = RXTX-2.2 > > native lib Version = RXTX-2.2pre2 > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:32:28 +0300 > > Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > > > > I installed the Arduino IDE from Mageia RPMs and added my user to > > > the lock group as instructed. > > > > > > In the tools >> serial port menu, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0 - > > > only /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1. I tried both of them but could > > > not upload a program. I read that sometimes Arduino needs to be > > > run as root, so I tried that too with no success. Here's what I > > > get when I try to upload: > > > > > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Shlomo Solomon > > http://the-solomons.net > > Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 From rabin at rabin.io Tue Jun 20 15:49:38 2017 From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:49:38 +0300 Subject: Arduino on Mageia linux In-Reply-To: <20170620152323.3e9f26cd@shlomo1.solomon> References: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> <20170620142053.29a80c0a@shlomo1.solomon> <20170620152323.3e9f26cd@shlomo1.solomon> Message-ID: You're welcome. On Jun 20, 2017 15:23, "Shlomo Solomon" wrote: > Stupid of me not to have looked at dmesg before writing. > > It turned out to be a bad USB cable - so I wasn't connecting :-( > > Thanks for pointing me in the write direction > > > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:04:57 +0300 > Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote: > > > what is the output of `dmesg` when you connect the device to the > > machine ? > > > > e.g, should be something like this, > > > > [393503.604738] usb 1-4.2: new full-speed USB device number 71 using > > xhci_hcd > > [393503.698674] usb 1-4.2: New USB device found, idVendor=1a86, > > idProduct=7523 > > [393503.698678] usb 1-4.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, > > SerialNumber=0 > > [393503.698681] usb 1-4.2: Product: USB2.0-Serial > > [393503.757764] usbcore: registered new interface driver ch341 > > [393503.757789] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for > > ch341-uart [393503.757808] ch341 1-4.2:1.0: ch341-uart converter > > detected [393503.758600] usb 1-4.2: ch341-uart converter now attached > > to ttyUSB0 > > > > > > -- > > Rabin > > > > On 20 June 2017 at 14:20, Shlomo Solomon > > wrote: > > > > > Sorry - just noticed I cut off part of the error message, so here > > > it is again: > > > > > > WARNING: RXTX Version mismatch > > > Jar version = RXTX-2.2 > > > native lib Version = RXTX-2.2pre2 > > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:32:28 +0300 > > > Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > > > > > > I installed the Arduino IDE from Mageia RPMs and added my user to > > > > the lock group as instructed. > > > > > > > > In the tools >> serial port menu, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0 - > > > > only /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1. I tried both of them but could > > > > not upload a program. I read that sometimes Arduino needs to be > > > > run as root, so I tried that too with no success. Here's what I > > > > get when I try to upload: > > > > > > > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Shlomo Solomon > > > http://the-solomons.net > > > Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Linux-il mailing list > > > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > > > -- > Shlomo Solomon > http://the-solomons.net > Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nyh at math.technion.ac.il Thu Jun 22 11:53:13 2017 From: nyh at math.technion.ac.il (Nadav Har'El) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 11:53:13 +0300 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170622085313.GA20300@fermat.math.technion.ac.il> On Fri, Jun 02, 2017, E.S. Rosenberg wrote about "Re: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected": > For those of you who are interested: > As of 5.3 LO no longer supports Type1 fonts which is how the > culmus-fancy font set ships. > The best solution is to convert them to OpenType or TrueType fonts. Wow... So I'm lucky that Fedora 25 which I use still uses LibreOffice 5.2. Someone (TM) really needs to fix this issue, because I'm not aware of any alternative quality Hebrew fonts on Linux... What does it take to "convert" a Type 1 font into OpenType or TrueType? Is it just a trivial format conversion issue, or something more involved? Is something lost in this conversion - precision, ability to edit, or anything else? On https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104701 someone states (I have no idea if this statement is correct): " ... PS Type 1 font conversion is trivial, and most Adobe PS Type 1 was converted years ago and is distributed as TTF/OTF already." Maxim, are you still on this list? It's been ages since I've been here myself. -- Nadav Har'El | Thursday, Jun 22 2017, 28 Sivan 5777 nyh at math.technion.ac.il |----------------------------------------- Phone/Telegram +972-523-790466 |Good things come to those who wait - but http://nadav.harel.org.il |only the things left by those who hurry. From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il Thu Jun 22 12:04:39 2017 From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:04:39 +0300 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected In-Reply-To: <20170622085313.GA20300@fermat.math.technion.ac.il> References: <20170622085313.GA20300@fermat.math.technion.ac.il> Message-ID: 2017-06-22 11:53 GMT+03:00 Nadav Har'El : > On Fri, Jun 02, 2017, E.S. Rosenberg wrote about "Re: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected": >> For those of you who are interested: >> As of 5.3 LO no longer supports Type1 fonts which is how the >> culmus-fancy font set ships. >> The best solution is to convert them to OpenType or TrueType fonts. > > Wow... > So I'm lucky that Fedora 25 which I use still uses LibreOffice 5.2. > Someone (TM) really needs to fix this issue, because I'm not aware of > any alternative quality Hebrew fonts on Linux... It's not as bad as it sounds, only some of the fonts are only packaged as Type1 (culmus-fancy is Type1 only) the rest either ships as OpenType or TrueType. There are also quite a few other Hebrew fonts out there part of the different distros. > > What does it take to "convert" a Type 1 font into OpenType or TrueType? > Is it just a trivial format conversion issue, or something more > involved? Is something lost in this conversion - precision, ability to > edit, or anything else? It seems to be a trivial conversion, I did it using the Adobe Font Dev Kit but it should also be possible using fontmagic and other OSS tools. The fonts seem to work fine and look the same as they used to. The conversion tool did give me some errors/warnings so I don't know 100% if they are OK. > > On https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104701 > someone states (I have no idea if this statement is correct): > " ... PS Type 1 font conversion is trivial, and most Adobe PS Type 1 > was converted years ago and is distributed as TTF/OTF already." > > > Maxim, are you still on this list? It's been ages since I've been here > myself. If it's useful I'll upload the converted files somewhere... Regards, Eliyahu - ????? > > -- > Nadav Har'El | Thursday, Jun 22 2017, 28 Sivan 5777 > nyh at math.technion.ac.il |----------------------------------------- > Phone/Telegram +972-523-790466 |Good things come to those who wait - but > http://nadav.harel.org.il |only the things left by those who hurry. From dov.grobgeld at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 12:17:25 2017 From: dov.grobgeld at gmail.com (Dov Grobgeld) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:17:25 +0300 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected In-Reply-To: References: <20170622085313.GA20300@fermat.math.technion.ac.il> Message-ID: It should be quite trivial to do the conversion with the open source package FontForge. Note that converting Type1 fonts to otf is a lossless conversion, as OpenType is a superset of Type1 and TrueType. Type1 and TrueType store the font paths differently as Type1 uses B?zier curves, wheras TrueType uses quadratic B-splines. See: - http://www.adobe.com/products/type/opentype/opentype-faq.html Regards, Dov On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:04 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > 2017-06-22 11:53 GMT+03:00 Nadav Har'El : > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2017, E.S. Rosenberg wrote about "Re: [LibreOffice > 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected": > >> For those of you who are interested: > >> As of 5.3 LO no longer supports Type1 fonts which is how the > >> culmus-fancy font set ships. > >> The best solution is to convert them to OpenType or TrueType fonts. > > > > Wow... > > So I'm lucky that Fedora 25 which I use still uses LibreOffice 5.2. > > Someone (TM) really needs to fix this issue, because I'm not aware of > > any alternative quality Hebrew fonts on Linux... > It's not as bad as it sounds, only some of the fonts are only packaged > as Type1 (culmus-fancy is Type1 only) the rest either ships as > OpenType or TrueType. > There are also quite a few other Hebrew fonts out there part of the > different distros. > > > > What does it take to "convert" a Type 1 font into OpenType or TrueType? > > Is it just a trivial format conversion issue, or something more > > involved? Is something lost in this conversion - precision, ability to > > edit, or anything else? > It seems to be a trivial conversion, I did it using the Adobe Font Dev > Kit but it should also be possible using fontmagic and other OSS > tools. > The fonts seem to work fine and look the same as they used to. > The conversion tool did give me some errors/warnings so I don't know > 100% if they are OK. > > > > On https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104701 > > someone states (I have no idea if this statement is correct): > > " ... PS Type 1 font conversion is trivial, and most Adobe PS Type 1 > > was converted years ago and is distributed as TTF/OTF already." > > > > > > Maxim, are you still on this list? It's been ages since I've been here > > myself. > If it's useful I'll upload the converted files somewhere... > Regards, > Eliyahu - ????? > > > > -- > > Nadav Har'El | Thursday, Jun 22 2017, 28 > Sivan 5777 > > nyh at math.technion.ac.il |----------------------------- > ------------ > > Phone/Telegram +972-523-790466 |Good things come to those who wait > - but > > http://nadav.harel.org.il |only the things left by those who > hurry. > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boruch_baum at gmx.com Thu Jun 22 13:07:20 2017 From: boruch_baum at gmx.com (Boruch Baum) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 06:07:20 -0400 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected In-Reply-To: <20170622085313.GA20300@fermat.math.technion.ac.il> References: <20170622085313.GA20300@fermat.math.technion.ac.il> Message-ID: <20170622100720.GA24376@E15-2016.optimum.net> On 2017-06-22 11:53, Nadav Har'El wrote: > What does it take to "convert" a Type 1 font into OpenType or TrueType? > Is it just a trivial format conversion issue, or something more > involved? Is something lost in this conversion - precision, ability to > edit, or anything else? I just did a series of tests, and it doesn't seem to be a big deal. 1] In debian, install package 'fontforge'. 2] Create folder ~/.fonts 3] Copy a font's file to your home folder (I chose /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/DorianCLM-Book.*) 4] Follow the instructions at ref[1], but before saving, for the purpose of the test, go to menu 'element > font info' and change the name of the font in all fields to something new and unique and original, like 'aaaa'. 5] When saving the font per the instructions at ref[1], select your ~/.fonts folder, and for the purpose of the test, name the saved font file 'aaaa'. 6] From the command line 'fc-list aaaa' should return the path to your new font. 7] Open libreoffice and test the font. 8] What about running in batch mode? Whoa, Google tells me that 'fontforge' supports python scripting[2], and the "simple example"[2] is none other than converting a Type1 PostScript font (a pfb/afm combination) into a TrueType font! I didn't play with that. References: [1] https://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-convert-fonts-to-ttf-format-in-ubuntu/ [2] https://fontforge.github.io/scripting-tutorial.html -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 From borissh1983 at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 15:20:40 2017 From: borissh1983 at gmail.com (borissh1983 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:20:40 +0300 Subject: Arduino on Mageia linux In-Reply-To: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> References: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> Message-ID: <2102088.8WN0Z0iKeM@midgard> Hi , I had a similar issue when I checked the wrong board in the IDE (few years ago things may have changed). Unplug the device , close the IDE , plug it in again and : dmesg ls /dev/serial/by-* start the IDE again and make sure you choose the correct board. On Tuesday, 20 June 2017 13:32:28 IDT Shlomo Solomon wrote: > I installed the Arduino IDE from Mageia RPMs and added my user to the > lock group as instructed. > > In the tools >> serial port menu, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0 - > only /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1. I tried both of them but could not > upload a program. I read that sometimes Arduino needs to be run as > root, so I tried that too with no success. Here's what I get when I try > to upload: > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 15:38:07 2017 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:38:07 +0300 Subject: Arduino on Mageia linux In-Reply-To: <2102088.8WN0Z0iKeM@midgard> References: <20170620133228.7c3e45f3@shlomo1.solomon> <2102088.8WN0Z0iKeM@midgard> Message-ID: <20170622153807.020b864c@shlomo1.solomon> As I already wrote, it turned out to be a bad USB cable. I should have checked that first. My bad. On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:20:40 +0300 borissh1983 at gmail.com wrote: > Hi , > > I had a similar issue when I checked the wrong board in the IDE (few > years ago things may have changed). > > Unplug the device , close the IDE , plug it in again and : > > dmesg > ls /dev/serial/by-* > > start the IDE again and make sure you choose the correct board. > > On Tuesday, 20 June 2017 13:32:28 IDT Shlomo Solomon wrote: > > I installed the Arduino IDE from Mageia RPMs and added my user to > > the lock group as instructed. > > > > In the tools >> serial port menu, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0 - > > only /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1. I tried both of them but could not > > upload a program. I read that sometimes Arduino needs to be run as > > root, so I tried that too with no success. Here's what I get when I > > try to upload: > > > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > Binary sketch size: 1,056 bytes (of a 32,256 byte maximum) > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00 > > avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding > > -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by Claws Mail 3.11.1 - KDE 4.14.5 - LINUX Mageia 5 From boruch_baum at gmx.com Sun Jun 25 22:55:08 2017 From: boruch_baum at gmx.com (Boruch Baum) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:55:08 -0400 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected Message-ID: <20170625195443.GE2026@E15-2016.optimum.net> If just uploaded TTF versions of the fonts to: https://github.com/Boruch-Baum/culmus-fancy-ttf Please let me know if: a] This is packaged for a distribution, so I can link to it. b] The original package is updated to include TrueType fonts, so I can delete the repository. c] Some superior version of this collection exists elsewhere, so I can defer to it. -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 From amichai at iglu.org.il Tue Jun 27 11:13:08 2017 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 11:13:08 +0300 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?15DXldeS15XXodeYINek15nXoNeS15XXldeZ158=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ????? ????? ??????? ??? ?? ????? ??????... ????? ????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From boruch_baum at gmx.com Tue Jun 27 14:49:00 2017 From: boruch_baum at gmx.com (Boruch Baum) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 07:49:00 -0400 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected In-Reply-To: References: <20170625195443.GE2026@E15-2016.optimum.net> Message-ID: <20170627114900.GB11444@E15-2016.optimum.net> On 2017-06-27 12:59, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote: > Thanks. > Q1: can you share show did you converted the fonts (manually/script), #+BEGIN_SRC sh #!/usr/bin/fontforge -lang=ff # # # Accepts args *.pfa or *.pfb i=1 while ( i < $argc ) Open( $argv[i] ) Generate( $argv[i]:r + ".ttf") i = i+1 endloop #+END_SRC > Q2: do you know how can I patch together 2 fonts, for example > I like to have some subset of glyps from one font and some other > sub-set from another and and combine them together to a new font. > my use case it to have a monospaced-font with Hebrew support > (which not all of them have). No idea. I'm not a font expert, and just dived into this fray because it was something I realized I could do. -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 From dov.grobgeld at gmail.com Tue Jun 27 15:12:39 2017 From: dov.grobgeld at gmail.com (Dov Grobgeld) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:12:39 +0300 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected In-Reply-To: <20170627114900.GB11444@E15-2016.optimum.net> References: <20170625195443.GE2026@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20170627114900.GB11444@E15-2016.optimum.net> Message-ID: Though I haven't followed the story closely, you should note that this conversion is problematic. Converting to OpenType while retaining the Type1 outlines would have been a better idea, if OpenOffice supports it. Here's a relevant link that describes the problem in Type1?TTF conversion: https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/06/3-reasons-font-converter-type-1-truetype/ Regards, Dov On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Boruch Baum wrote: > On 2017-06-27 12:59, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote: > > Thanks. > > Q1: can you share show did you converted the fonts (manually/script), > > #+BEGIN_SRC sh > #!/usr/bin/fontforge -lang=ff > # > # > # Accepts args *.pfa or *.pfb > > i=1 > while ( i < $argc ) > Open( $argv[i] ) > Generate( $argv[i]:r + ".ttf") > i = i+1 > endloop > #+END_SRC > > > > Q2: do you know how can I patch together 2 fonts, for example > > I like to have some subset of glyps from one font and some > other > > sub-set from another and and combine them together to a new font. > > my use case it to have a monospaced-font with Hebrew support > > (which not all of them have). > > No idea. I'm not a font expert, and just dived into this fray > because it was something I realized I could do. > > > -- > hkp://keys.gnupg.net > CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boruch_baum at gmx.com Tue Jun 27 20:14:07 2017 From: boruch_baum at gmx.com (Boruch Baum) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:14:07 -0400 Subject: [LibreOffice 5.3/Ubuntu 17.04] Culmus Fonts not detected In-Reply-To: References: <20170625195443.GE2026@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20170627114900.GB11444@E15-2016.optimum.net> Message-ID: <20170627171407.GD11444@E15-2016.optimum.net> If Dov is correct and your results are superior, let me know when you upload yours for public distribution and I'll immediately delete my repository with a link to yours. On 2017-06-27 19:28, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > I converted to OpenType using Adobe FDK and the fonts work in LibreOffice. > > 2017-06-27 15:12 GMT+03:00 Dov Grobgeld : > > Though I haven't followed the story closely, you should note that this > > conversion is problematic. Converting to OpenType while retaining the Type1 > > outlines would have been a better idea, if OpenOffice supports it. > > > > Here's a relevant link that describes the problem in Type1?TTF conversion: > > https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/06/3-reasons-font-converter-type-1-truetype/ -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0