<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Good evening Shlomi,<br>I am in the club a newbe that often racks his brains for answers. I still find it difficult to deal with a compressed .tar file and install it. I am sure that for the experienced they do this with their eyes closed. Sometimes I get the /home/moshe/desktop/..... does not exist. Trying to get around in the console is sometimes for the newbe a real nightmare. When some experts say do this add this or that it may take quite a while before the console accepts the command request. I find that to make a file in a folder is a headache. I first have to cd to the actual directory, this I understand. Then I have to use mkedir to make the directory. To actually get a text file into that new directory I have to create the file and save to the desktop. Sometimes the mv file -T /Whatever works or CD to the relevant directory and type in the console
"import /...../ and hope for the best.<br>Moshe<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 17/2/09, Shlomi Fish <i><shlomif@iglu.org.il></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: Shlomi Fish <shlomif@iglu.org.il><br>Subject: Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)<br>To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il<br>Date: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 7:09 PM<br><br><pre>On Tuesday 17 February 2009 14:23:23 Dotan Cohen wrote:<br>> > Compiling a Kernel was a new thing in 1995, when I started doing it.<br>Now<br>> > it's usually not necessary for the average user to do, and IMHO<br>saying<br>> > that you had to do it to access a device would scare away the average<br>new<br>> > user.<br>> ><br>> > As for writing a driver, it's not a noob thing, it's not even<br>an "expert"<br>> > thing.<br>> ><br>> > I
expect that the number of people who have even read a driver's<br>source<br>> > code on this list could be counted on the fingers of one hand.<br>><br>> Exactly. The distinction between noob and experienced posts is too<br>> blurry today to justify two lists. Especially when there is<br>> essentially _no_traffic_ on the noobs list (I subscribed yesterday and<br>> there have been no messages so far).<br><br>There is indeed very little traffic on GNUbies-IL . I expect most new Linux <br>users ask on web-forums instead of on mailing lists. I'm still a GNUbies-IL<br><br>admin in case someone posts, and am subscribed there to answer any questions <br>that people may have. <br><br>I personally support accepting beginners' posts here on Linux-IL, assuming <br>there will be any. I don't expect the added traffic to overwhelm Linux-IL,<br>and <br>it may lead to interesting more advanced or more philosophical discussions. <br>Some beginners
may be intimidated by the more advanced questions, but I doubt <br>it will be an issue. In any case, maintaining GNUbies-IL is not time consuming <br>at all, so I'm perfectly fine keeping it in its mostly-dormant condition.<br><br>Regards,<br><br> Shlomi Fish<br><br>-- <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------<br>Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/<br>Interview with Ben Collins-Sussman - http://xrl.us/bjn8s<br><br><mauke> I'm not interested in what you're doing; what are you<br>trying to <br> achieve?<br><PerlJam> mauke: I'm trying to achieve world peace and this regex is<br> the last thing standing in my way! ;)<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Linux-il mailing list<br>Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il<br>http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il<br></pre></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>