<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><P>How do you actually do that? What is the command line to use?</P><P>Moshe<BR></P><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 22/2/09, sara fink <I><sara.fink@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: sara fink <sara.fink@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: Skype and Web Camera CPU Usage<BR>To: mbrace700@yahoo.co.uk<BR>Cc: "Linux-il" <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il><BR>Date: Sunday, 22 February, 2009, 7:40 PM<BR><BR><DIV id="yiv491428123"><DIV dir="ltr">Hello Moshe<BR><BR>I meant about CPU and not bandwidth. CPU usage you can see both by typing the command top in a terminal and also when you use a camera, in skype there is a square which shows you packet loss, jitter, cpu usage, etc. <BR>
<BR><DIV class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Moshe Brace using Yahoo <SPAN dir="ltr"><<A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:mbrace700@yahoo.co.uk">mbrace700@yahoo.co.uk</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;">
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<P>Shavuah Tov</P><P>Sara I read your comments and found them to be quite interesting. </P><P>When using the latest 4.0 Skype in WinXP there is an indicator which tells you the Bandwidth taken up by Video. Probably there is a way in Linux to see the Bandwidth usage but the best way I have found to see if I am getting the Bandwith I am supposed to have is <A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.speedtest.net/index.php">http://www.speedtest.net/index.php</A> What you can do is try the download upload test twice, once with the camera video and once without this will give you an idea of Bandwith loss. This is simple to use and anyone can use this page, left click on the Yellow pyramid and watch the man send the packets to your computer; Clocks tell you the Bandwidth speed.. </P>
<P>The camera is not so esential but sometimes I do want sometimes to use it. I do find that even in Windows if I see that the conversation is
going to be a long one that I switch off the video. Video phones are not always the success that people think due to the fact they may show if someone is not exactly telling the truth. </P><P>Moshe<BR></P><A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://moshe.lee.co.il">http://moshe.lee.co.il</A> <BR>
--- On <B>Sun, 22/2/09, sara fink <I><<A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:sara.fink@gmail.com">sara.fink@gmail.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;">
From: sara fink <<A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:sara.fink@gmail.com">sara.fink@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)<BR>To: <A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:mbrace700@yahoo.co.uk">mbrace700@yahoo.co.uk</A><BR>
Cc: "Shlomi Fish" <<A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:shlomif@iglu.org.il">shlomif@iglu.org.il</A>>, "Linux-il" <<A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</A>><BR>
Date: Sunday, 22 February, 2009, 7:13 PM<BR><BR><DIV><DIV dir="ltr">Hello Moshe<BR><BR>I had a webcam working with skype. It used 100% cpu. I deleted skype for various reasons and won't enter them here. I am curious to know how much cpu ekiga uses with the
camera?<BR>Moreover, don't try to understand skype, because it isn't understandable. <BR>
<BR><BR><BR><DIV class="gmail_quote">2009/2/19 Moshe Brace using Yahoo <SPAN dir="ltr"><<A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:mbrace700@yahoo.co.uk">mbrace700@yahoo.co.uk</A>></SPAN><BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;">
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Well I have only praise to say in the way Shlomi Fish answered my queries regarding my Webcam problems, even though I have not succeeded to get it to work. He compiled a file from source for webcams for me. I would never have been able to do this.<BR>
<BR>As a newbe I really appreciate any help I get in sorting out and understanding Linux. Although Mandriva 2009.0 goes some way to making Linux easier to use, there are bugs like this that make one scratch their head. My Logitech Quickcam 8.4.8 Webcam works well in Cheese and Ekiga showing an excellent picture. My previous camera a Pixart PAC207 worked in Skype with Mandriva 2008.1 Spring but in 2009.0 it doesn't. I have read in Forums that other distros also suffer this. So the problem may be with Skype not knowing how to recognise Webcams correctly without a tweak somewhere. I would love to know what to
tweak.<BR><BR>I tried adding to /etc/modprobe.d a folder called quickcam and in it a text file quickcam.txt that had the line typed:<BR>options quickcam compatible=6 <BR><BR>I ended up reinstalling Mandriva 2009.0 because the 2008.0 disk must be damaged and spending hours installing favourite programmes after it updated. <BR>
<BR>I have decided to live with no Webcam and Canoscan 3200f likewise when using Linux, it beats reinstalling.<BR><BR>This is a copy of lsusb:<BR><BR><BR>Anyone got any ideas on this.<BR><BR>Distro Mandriva 2009.0 Gnome Desktop<BR>
<BR>Can this Logitech QuickCam Chat v8.4.8 be installed so Skype can use it? Ekiga and Cheese recognises work the Camera OK - video display good. <BR><BR><BR>[root@localhost ~]# lsusb<BR><BR>Bus 008 Device 002: ID 03eb:3301 Atmel Corp. at433301 4-port Hub<BR>
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001<BR><BR>Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1307:0165 Transcend Information, Inc.<BR><BR>Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04a9:2216 Canon,
Inc. Canoscan3200F<BR>Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002<BR>Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001<BR>Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001<BR><BR>Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002<BR>Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001<BR>Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:08a6 Logitech, Inc.<BR>
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001<BR>Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001<BR><BR>[root@localhost ~]#<BR><BR>Moshe<BR><BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 19/2/09, Shlomi Fish <I><<A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:shlomif@iglu.org.il">shlomif@iglu.org.il</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;">From: Shlomi Fish <<A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:shlomif@iglu.org.il">shlomif@iglu.org.il</A>><BR>Subject: Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)<BR>
To: <A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</A><BR>Date: Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 1:16 PM<DIV><DIV><BR><BR><PRE>On Thursday 19 February 2009 00:40:07 Dotan Cohen wrote:<BR>
> > I don't see you, Dotan Cohen, asking questions which were already<BR>asked<BR>> > recently. I
don't think that any of your example questions would<BR>> > currently qualify as noob questions. Long time has passed since<BR>anyone<BR>> > compiled his own kernel in Linux-IL or discussed writing a driver.<BR>
><BR>> Having unique problems is not the blessing that it looks like!<BR>><BR>> Going through the gnubies list, though, I am starting to have two<BR>feelings:<BR>> <A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gnubies-il/messages/?yguid=342368143">http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gnubies-il/messages/?yguid=342368143</A><BR>
><BR>> 1) Too much spam. Shlomi made a post about the list being moderated,<BR>> and right after that there is a spam.<BR><BR>That's probably because the spammer has subscribed to the list, and had <BR>already posted from this address before I made the list "first-time <BR>
moderated". In the long-term, spam should still be eliminated there.<BR><BR>><BR>> 2) The current noob post is titled "Help with ubuntu.... please...<BR>".<BR>> This will be easy for the gurus to
ignore, and if you are bored, you<BR>> could get in there and help the guy. We _need_ more Linux users in<BR>> Israel, and just ignoring the noobs will make them go back to the OS<BR>> that they came from. If anything, we have one more user filling up<BR>
> Israeli apache logfiles with guarenteed non-IE hits.<BR><BR>Right.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>        Shlomi Fish<BR><BR>-- <BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Shlomi Fish <A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.shlomifish.org/">http://www.shlomifish.org/</A><BR>
Stop Using MSIE - <A rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.shlomifish.org/no-ie/">http://www.shlomifish.org/no-ie/</A><BR><BR><mauke> I'm not interested in what you're doing; what are you<BR>trying to <BR>
achieve?<BR>
<PerlJam> mauke: I'm trying to achieve world peace and this regex is<BR> the last thing standing in my way! ;)<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Linux-il mailing
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