<div dir="ltr"><div>Btw, the drawing of the keyboard does not show the following additional mappings that I use (don't remember if they are part of the original .xkbmap):<br><br>Hebrew shift Z: RLM<br>Hebrew shift X: LRM<br>
<br>(Mnemonic: RLM is in the left side as the writing direction is to the right. LRM is on the right side as the writing direction is to the right.)<br><br>With that I can write:<br><br><div style="text-align: center;"> xxx שלום! xxx<br>
</div></div><div style="text-align: center;"> אאא hello! אאא<br></div><div dir="rtl" style="text-align: center;">C++ שפת מחשב<br></div><div>Cheers,<br>Dov<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yba@tkos.co.il">yba@tkos.co.il</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Dov,<br>
I'd like to see a vote on this, or maybe just a discussion.<br>
Maybe there is a possibility of adopting this as a second standard.<br>
Anyone else have opinions about this?<br>
<br>
- yba<br>
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On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote:<br>
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:23:37 +0200<br>
From: Dov Grobgeld <<a href="mailto:dov.grobgeld@gmail.com" target="_blank">dov.grobgeld@gmail.com</a>><div class="im"><br>
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham <<a href="mailto:yba@tkos.co.il" target="_blank">yba@tkos.co.il</a>><br></div>
Cc: Baruch Siach <<a href="mailto:baruch@tkos.co.il" target="_blank">baruch@tkos.co.il</a>>, linux-il. <<a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il" target="_blank">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a>><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout<br>
<br>
After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the<br>
Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write "SHALOM!" (assuming that<br>
capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language<br>
shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does<br>
anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?<br>
<br>
That's why I suggested the alternative at<br>
<br>
<a href="http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/%7Edov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html" target="_blank">http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html</a><br>
<br>
The idea is that it makes more sense to press the [Language shift] key<br>
before typing latin characters than punctuation characters.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Dov<br>
<br>
2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham <<a href="mailto:yba@tkos.co.il" target="_blank">yba@tkos.co.il</a>><br>
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Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.<br>
<br>
- yba<br>
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On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:<br>
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200<br>
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From: Baruch Siach <<a href="mailto:baruch@tkos.co.il" target="_blank">baruch@tkos.co.il</a>><br>
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham <<a href="mailto:yba@tkos.co.il" target="_blank">yba@tkos.co.il</a>><br>
Cc: Dotan Cohen <<a href="mailto:dotancohen@gmail.com" target="_blank">dotancohen@gmail.com</a>>, linux-il. <<a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il" target="_blank">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a><br>
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Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout<br>
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Hi Yonatan,<br>
<br>
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:<br>
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What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?<br>
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How about SI1452?<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm" target="_blank">http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm</a><br>
<br>
baruch<br>
<br>
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:<br>
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200<br>
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From: Dotan Cohen <<a href="mailto:dotancohen@gmail.com" target="_blank">dotancohen@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: linux-il. <<a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il" target="_blank">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a>><br>
Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout<br>
<br>
Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard<br>
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout<br>
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like<br>
in another popular OS?<br>
<br>
Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found<br>
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the<br>
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete<br>
as well. Thanks.<br>
<br>
Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!<br>
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