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</td></tr></tbody></table></div><div id=":as" class="ii gt">Hi,<br>
s3 is not used for block storage!! local ec2 instances storage or EBS drives are used.<br><br>
I have instances running for 485 days. These are from the time we started using Amazon which was in beta.<br>The fact that during the beta they some issued is not a big surprise.<br><br>
As to cost if you are using 4 servers it really does not matter. If you are you are using a 100 and<br>there number can drop to 50 or go up depending on what you are doing the savings are significant.<br>Being able to setup more servers to test a large new installation and then discard them paying only for actual usage<br>
gives you a lot of flexibility. <br><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Ira Abramov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Lists-Linux-IL@ira.abramov.org">Lists-Linux-IL@ira.abramov.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">Quoting Ghiora Drori, from the post of Wed, 04 Mar:<br>
> Hi,<br>
</div><div class="im">> Why would s3 bother you ? Its there it does not cost money if you do not use<br>
> it it cost fairly little when you do<br>
> and it works ok.<br>
<br>
</div>Well, I was told it's not accassible as a simple filesystem, which means<br>
it won't work as shared storage for my current set of apps (various PHP<br>
and other tools expecting to find plain files in the directories they<br>
put them in...<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> The only thing you will need s3 for is to store images of systems you want<br>
> to launch, you could use public images<br>
> but the cost of keeping private onse in s3 is negligible and this gives much<br>
> more flexiblity in creating custom servers.<br>
<br>
</div>Well, the hosting guy has 5 very different servers hosted right now. a<br>
winXP for Marcom, a couple of production Debian LAMPs, a test LAMP and a spare<br>
machine for sensitive sites. I think we are talking about too many<br>
details to try and just dump them P2V on a cloud and hope for the<br>
best...<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> You do have to learn how to handle it aka instances can die and then<br>
> you loose their disk this has been rare lately, was more common a few<br>
> month ago. The EBS drives however do not die with the machine so data<br>
<br>
</div>are you trying to cheer me up? :) I have machines with 500-600 days of<br>
uptime here, I don't need to move a bunch of Israeli sites to a far away<br>
cloud that occasionally has a lightning storm as well.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> You can put mysql, or any other software in images or load them when<br>
> the instance is up. You can run RedHat, Gentoo, Ubuntu or even<br>
> Windows... You can scale up and down the number of your servers and<br>
> EBS disks as needed.<br>
<br>
</div>If your servers were built for clustering in the first place, maybe.<br>
This is not a case of "Drag'n'drop", as you can understand :)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Make an account and play with it!! A small machine/instance (32 bits)<br>
> is 10 cents an hour. If you cannot afford that you are not really<br>
> commercial :) A few minor calculations should give you the correct<br>
> cost numbers.<br>
<br>
</div>10 cents an hour are $2.4 a day or about $75 a month. this is more or<br>
less what the guy is paying in Israel now, and he gets less latency (all<br>
Hebrew sites and wanted only by Israelis), more disk space, etc.<br>
<br>
I guess the only real plus of histing the apps there is the Fun in the<br>
SAN.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> As sysadmin using it in a real web company it is very good, has a<br>
> learning curve like everything else.<br>
<br>
</div>yeah, only he's expecting definite answers from me, and Now I have to<br>
talk him into doing a pilot because I don't have all the correct<br>
answers. But that's the way the Internet works, right? :-)<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Ira.<br>
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</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">Ira Abramov<br>
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