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Boaz Rymland wrote:
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">Hi
all,</font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">Consultation
needed:</font></p>
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</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">A
friend of mine and myself are volunteering to launch a charity web site.</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">My
friend is not proficient in web technologies so when he went to check
for registration of the domain, he followed the instructions
recommended on one of the Israeli registrars - internic.co.il and check
through their website the vacancy of the domain we wanted, with .co.il
. It was as vacant as it can be.</font></p>
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</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">The
following day, he went to actually register the domain and guess what?
The domain was already registered(!)... . </font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">This
smelled very fishy: the domain name was very unlikely to be requested
"by coincidence" at that exact timing; the person holding the domain
was some Israeli name with a very unreadable email address ending in
some .info domain (cannot quote the email address here - see PS section
below).<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial">Now I have another friend who's deep into the
hosting business and he immediately told me that the owners of
Internic.co.il are know to be doing this very ugly move on whois
queries running through their web site.</font></p>
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</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial"><b>My
questions</b>:</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">*
is
that business method illegal?</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">*
what can be done here in order to react? (be the internic method legal
or not).<br>
</font></p>
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</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">Thanks!</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">Boaz.</font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><b><font face="Arial">P.S.</font></b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">*
luckily for us, after I talked to my friend we made it clear that the
needed domain should finish with a .org, not .co.il, so we actually
weren't hit by Internic sting. The incident was and still is, very
irritating.<br>
</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><font face="Arial">*
the .co.il domain was hijacked on March 24 (IIRC) but its now free - no
registration records exists for it so I cannot quote the snatcher
details. But, since Internic (or the people they're affiliated with)
are making a living in the described method, it should be rather easy
to prove how they work - its a little matter of persistence... .</font><br>
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Complain to ISOC. <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-domains@isoc.org.il">info-domains@isoc.org.il</a><br>
<br>
Shachar<br>
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Shachar Shemesh
Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lingnu.com">http://www.lingnu.com</a>
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