<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/8/18 Danny Lieberman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dannyl@software.co.il">dannyl@software.co.il</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Shachar <br><br>On the Internet - size is not an indication of threat surface. Ability to provision and maintain is more important.<br><br>You have to engineer your solution to your needs. <br><br>For us - the combination of Google Apps, slicehost (for smaller projects) / rackspace (for big projects) rocks. <br>
<br>Google Apps Mail and Calendar are amazing applications especially if you have colleagues in 5 or 6 time zones and people with iphones and blackberries like we do<br><br>I can't believe that there are people on Linux-IL who seriously consider Squirrel Mail a competitor.<br>
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</font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There you go again with the "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">Don't even think about hosting your own Webmail"</span></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Danny - There are companies out there which consider internal mail as "classified" - Hosting the emails on third-party servers, even encrypted versions of the emails, is simply a security threat. It's called keeping your data "close to home", and it's quite important, especially when your content might be problematic in other jurisdictions.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">And anyway - no one outside of my company network/VPN should have IMAP/POP3 access to the mail server. With Google Apps you carefully craft your office firewall rules, then move mailbox access to *outside* of the network??!! </span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse; ">-mike</span></div>
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Shachar Shemesh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shachar@shemesh.biz" target="_blank">shachar@shemesh.biz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
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Amos Shapira wrote:
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<pre>d) We deploy security countermeasures to protect assets:
0) We don't use Google docs, Never.
1) None of our really sensitive assets are on Google Apps and that includes
Calendar and Mail
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<pre>So what's left from your use of Google?
BTW - do you (the plural "you" to the entire list) consider mail
hosting by other companies besides Google as more secure?
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In most aspects, yes.<br>
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First, another provider will likely be a smaller target (security by
anonymity).<br>
Second, another provider are not cross linking your emails with other
things they know about you. Granted, that's mostly because they don't
have that other info, but whatever the reason - it works.<br>
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As for traditional security - Google's extra size is a mixed blessing.
I wouldn't work with someone small using a tailor made solution, but
someone using a standard solution is likely, in the long run, to
provide comparable security level to those Google provide (theoretical
more chance of being vulnerable is offset by less chance of being
exploited).<div><br>
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Shachar<br>
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Shachar Shemesh
Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.
<a href="http://www.lingnu.com" target="_blank">http://www.lingnu.com</a>
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