<div dir="ltr">I can only talk from my own experience, I couldn't find any good source for rules about nikud and grammar in a simple form.<br>I did find some gpled work list with nikud, and I think I even talked to the people in mila.<br>
But no one could provide that few rules you are talking about.<br>(And I'm still confused about the difference between old and modern grammar/nikud...)<br><br>Ely<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Nadav Har'El <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nyh@math.technion.ac.il">nyh@math.technion.ac.il</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Thu, Dec 31, 2009, E L wrote about "Re: Announce: Hspell 1.1":<br>
</div><div class="im">> I think the main problem is what need to be done and not the man power to<br>
> program it.<br>
> If someone know of what are the rules grammar or nikud checkers should<br>
> follow I'm sure it won't be a big<br>
> deal programing one<br>
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</div>I beg to differ.<br>
<br>
First of all, most of the needed knowledge already exists, published in<br>
numerous papers and books, and demonstrated by several pieces of commercial<br>
software. One doesn't need to come with advanced knowledge of the topic,<br>
any more than I had to be some spell-checking expert before I started Hspell.<br>
All one needs is a willingness to learn, and of course the resourcefulness<br>
to put it into good use.<br>
<br>
Second, while the work on Hspell had a lot of very interesting theoretical<br>
sides and problems to solve (in linguistics, language, compression, etc.),<br>
most of the work was actually the mundane and almost endless task of making<br>
lists of words (a task which you can see, still isn't done 10 years after<br>
starting the project). For niqqud checking, there is also a lot of similar<br>
mundane work that needs to be done (writing the right niqqud for each word),<br>
and that takes a lot of time.<br>
For grammar checking, it depends what you call grammar: If you also want<br>
to include semantics, and not just grammar - like Prof. Uzzi Ornan did in<br>
his text-to-speech and niqqud research (and product) - there's also tons<br>
of work that needs to be done on creating classes of nouns, listing arguments<br>
of verbs, and so on. I guess you can start with just grammar, though, and<br>
in this case, you're right - it should be doable without too much data<br>
collection - so maybe this is indeed a good project to start with.<br>
<br>
This is all very interesting work. Unfortunately, I do not see myself<br>
starting it in the near future. If anyone is interested in taking a shot<br>
at it, I'd love to advise - please contact me and/or Dan privately.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
Nadav.<br>
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