<div dir="ltr">I think you have to make a distinction between older MS software (such as XP) and newer ones (such as 7). For example you defenitely don't run as administrator in Windows 7, and you've got a built-in sudo like system.<div>
I, like some people who replied, had bad experience managing Windows machines, and it was usually viruses. However in recent versions I noticed that even at the hands of the inexperienced users, and without any virus scanner, the system stays relatively clean.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The point about Windows complexity and background compatability is true and taken. It is against security, and maybe it tips the balance against MS and Windows related products security-wise.</div><div>
<br></div><div>The other remark which I highly disagree is that there's no need to convince me. I'm discussing here in order to be convinced, and I'm usually glad when someone enlightens me.<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Micha Feigin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michf@post.tau.ac.il">michf@post.tau.ac.il</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On Tue, 11 May 2010 04:08:39 -0700<br>
<div class="im">Elazar Leibovich <<a href="mailto:elazarl@gmail.com">elazarl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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</div><div class="im">> Not at all!<br>
> Google for "Microsoft SDL", it was not always the case, but nowadays they<br>
> have excellent security awareness.<br>
> For example, see evidence for the change here:<br>
> <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/david_leblanc/archive/2010/04/16/don-t-use-office-rc4-encryption-really-just-don-t-do-it.aspx" target="_blank">http://blogs.msdn.com/david_leblanc/archive/2010/04/16/don-t-use-office-rc4-encryption-really-just-don-t-do-it.aspx</a><br>
><br>
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</div>Lets start with the problem that Microsoft encourages all users to be set as<br>
administrators by default. It's almost impossible to be a regular user usually<br>
and just switch momentary to administrator for small administration tasks ...<br>
<br>
Managing simple folder / file permissions is also a difficult task (doing<br>
complex permissions is complex on unix as well though)<br>
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> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Gilboa Davara <<a href="mailto:gilboad@gmail.com">gilboad@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 22:10 +0300, Elazar Leibovich wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > For example, Microsoft is now known for excellent security review<br>
> > > practices. Whichever MS software I choose, I can rest assured that it<br>
> > > will be relatively on the high end of security.<br>
> ><br>
> > Hidden sarcasm?<br>
> ><br>
> > - Gilboa<br>
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