<div dir="ltr">Hi Elazar,<div><br></div><div>Another problem I have been experiencing for the past 3 major Ubuntu distributions (8.*, 9.*, 10.04, 64 bit OS on a 64 bit dual core) is that the X becomes extremely slow after a major operation (such as running heavy-memory Matlab scripts, or even an ad with sound on walla's weather page). It gives me the feeling that even once the application is long gone, the memory is still not really freed. <div>
<br></div><div>I tried using google-chrome instead of firefox (which causes this problem itself sometimes), but it did not help.<br><div><br></div><div>Even logging out does not solve the issue, not even ordering a reboot - I have to shut down and restart manually when this happens. I can no longer proudly claim that "Reboot is only due to electricity outages", and I now consider going back to Debian, in which I do not recall such problems.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Orna.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, geoffrey mendelson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:geoffreymendelson@gmail.com">geoffreymendelson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On May 10, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote:<br>
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I remeber a few times where users of this mailing list were arguing that ubuntu is a very problematic distribution.<br>
I'm evaluating a distribution for developer desktop.<br>
Ubuntu seems fitting mainly due to the hardware detection and the ease of configuration. Also, it has up to date versions of many desktop packages.<br>
I'll be happy to know which problems did you have with the Ubuntu distribution.<br>
Googling with Ubuntu problems etc, did not help me find any informative list of problems.<br>
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You need to go to the UBUNTU site and look at their problem databases. They are very good at tracking problems, less good at fixing them.<br>
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The problems I think you will encounter are:<br>
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1. They have a very strict release cycle with deadlines. Problems found after the "freeze" date for a distribution are not fixed until after the distribution.<br>
This meant in 9.04 IDE optical drives did not work, ATOM processors did not boot and a lot of minor bugs.<br>
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The ATOM problem was fixed with the netbook respin, but AFAIK a new boot disk of the regular version was never released.<br>
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2. They take about a month after a release to to fix things and then often break them. For example, I have a system where gnome stopped working, and I have tried reinstalling gnome, deleting prefs, etc and it still does not work. It's too involved to reinstall from scratch.<br>
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3, They moved things around and are not like any UNIX or Linux based distro. While it's debian based, they forked off a long time ago, and debian packages often won't work, nor will any of the administration things you know.<br>
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4. They set things up the way they want them and it's darned near impossible to make them work properly if it is not what they wanted. Ask anyone with a Mac running MacOS 10.5 or 10.6 who wanted to use netatalk.<br>
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5. Long term support is a relative term. Fixes that you would think are applied are not carried back. Only the obvious critical ones.<br>
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6. Packages are not updated. Many of them are never updated, some are updated daily. I'm still faced with the same bugs in the UBUNTU version of Asterisk that were there since the original one that came with the release.<br>
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In short a great desktop system for simple users, not a good one for someone to maintain or do anything beyond it.<br>
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Geoff.<br>
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