<div dir="ltr">Hi Oleg<div><br></div><div>When trying to use my Ubuntu for development, I ran into dependency troubles. I needed Eclipse, I had to manually install several java-related packages, the java compilers clashed (something by IBM came with eclipse, it was unable to compile the library I needed to hack (lucene) with it, but I could not get rid of the things eclipse brought with it. I ended up compiling only a part of Lucene, giving up on the webserver testing part, giving up even attempting to use the benefit of Eclipse for java (back to good old emacs).<div>
<br></div><div>I am not sure Valgrind was installed by default. I do not recall any update offered for devel tools, but I do recall many security updates and many firefox updates.</div><div><br></div><div>Orna<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pub@goldshmidt.org">pub@goldshmidt.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I am not an Ubuntu user, but this thread seems to me a good<br>
opportunity to find out on the cheap whether certain preconceptions<br>
have a reason.<br>
<br>
Somehow I got an idea in my head (marketing must work, probably in<br>
mysterious ways) that Ubuntu is a distro explicitly designed for every<br>
non-techie Tom, Dick, and Harry and their respective housewives, and<br>
the point is to dispel the impression that "Linux is for geeks". This<br>
may be correct or not.<br>
<br>
If this is the case, and given that the OP is trying to choose a<br>
platform for developers, can anyone say anything regarding Ubuntu's<br>
quality as a *development* platform? Is it just the same as any other<br>
distro? Is its choice and/or support for development tools<br>
better/worse? Is there any advantage or disadvantage to Ubuntu<br>
compared to XYZ distro specifically for developers?<br>
<br>
I can imagine a mindset including "99% of our target market don't care<br>
about compilers or linkers, so let's shove development tools somewhere<br>
into 'extras' and not even offer to install them out of the box, let's<br>
not update them as often as, say, browsers or email apps or multitouch<br>
drivers, etc.". I am not saying this is Ubuntu's mindset. I don't<br>
know, and I'll be happy to hear opinions.<br>
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Oleg Goldshmidt | <a href="mailto:pub@goldshmidt.org">pub@goldshmidt.org</a><br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.<br><a href="http://ladypine.org">http://ladypine.org</a><br>
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