I am not sure their business model is fixed in stone, and I would like them to change it. They make enough money without selling my information to the highest bidder. And they do want to stay on the good side of the customer, because without us, they are nothing - a collection of servers wasting energy. Like myspace, bebo and a whole lot of others (you have the list).<div>
<br></div><div>So it is like the usual dilemma, does one leave, or does one try to change from within. At this time I am doing the latter. If that does not work, I will re-evaluate. But in all honesty, the way I use Facebook I give them only limited value. Some people do a lot more self-exposing on line, and are much more vulnerable to abuse.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think quite a few people, btw, join without full understanding of what they are getting into. <br><br></div><div>Z.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Stan Goodman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stan.goodman@hashkedim.com">stan.goodman@hashkedim.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">At 18:18:08 on Monday Monday 25 October 2010, "Steve G."<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><<a href="mailto:wordz2u@gmail.com">wordz2u@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I was not asking you to join Facebook, that part was directed at<br>
> existing members.<br>
><br>
> I also agree with you that a content sharing and dissemination site is<br>
> not the right place to keep information private and obscure.<br>
><br>
> That said, it is one thing for Facebook to know what I am doing, or<br>
> even the CIA/FBI/NSA, who is eavesdropping on these services, and<br>
> another for them to send user profile and activities info to third<br>
> party. It is just like the phone book - I put my number in the public<br>
> domain so people can find me, but that does not mean I want someone to<br>
> collate my number with the socioeconomic average for my street, then<br>
> package it and send it to marketers so they can call me and offer<br>
> subscriptions for Newsweek.<br>
><br>
> Z.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Tzafrir Cohen<br>
<<a href="mailto:tzafrir@cohens.org.il">tzafrir@cohens.org.il</a>>wrote:<br>
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:03:08AM -0600, Steve G. wrote:<br>
> > > This message is about information neutrality and openness, which I<br>
> > > find<br>
> ><br>
> > to<br>
> ><br>
> > > be parallel to open source vs. walled garden approach.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I find the attitude of Facebook towards my information distressing.<br>
> > > While they have no problem sharing my personal data with<br>
> > > marketers, app developers, and strategic partners, which is bad<br>
> > > enough, they now limit access to my data that I DO wish to share<br>
> > > to BING, but not to Google or other engines.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I wrote express my opinion about it here,<br>
> > > <a href="http://www.words2u.net/pmwiki/?n=Opinion.FreeMyFacebookInfo" target="_blank">http://www.words2u.net/pmwiki/?n=Opinion.FreeMyFacebookInfo</a> , and<br>
> > > have<br>
> ><br>
> > also<br>
> ><br>
> > > started a Facebook group to convince Facebook to change their<br>
> > > practices:<br>
> > > <a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_112921682105482&ap=1" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_112921682105482&ap=1</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > You are all invited to read/join and express your opinion on the<br>
> > > matter, which to me is just as important as net neutrality or free<br>
> > > access to<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div>But that's their business plan, and it's hard to argue that it isn't a<br>
successful one, having produced (even without bludgeoning customers to<br>
bundle their operating system exclusively) megamultigazillionaires.<br>
<br>
They've been at it long enough for their market to be aware of what they<br>
do, and either not to mind it or to be enthusiastic about it. If it<br>
doesn't fit with your expectations (which would be a lot like mine), then<br>
you are not in the market sector to which they appeal, as simple as that.<br>
Perhaps you should consider finding another social site that is a better<br>
match. Wikipedia has a long list of them:<br>
<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites</a>><br>
<br>
Who would have thought there were so many?<br>
<font color="#888888">--<br>
Stan Goodman<br>
Qiryat Tiv'on<br>
Israel<br>
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