<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Amos Shapira <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amos.shapira@gmail.com">amos.shapira@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On 24 December 2010 11:14, shimi <<a href="mailto:linux-il@shimi.net">linux-il@shimi.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> 2010/12/24 Amos Shapira <<a href="mailto:amos.shapira@gmail.com">amos.shapira@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> On 19/12/2010 7:53 PM, "Daniel Feiglin" <<a href="mailto:dilogsys@inter.net.il">dilogsys@inter.net.il</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > (officially) never heard of Linux. Apart from the cost, there is the<br>
>> > very important security attraction - the Bezeq servers for this are<br>
>> > located in Israel.<br>
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>> Ha! Read Hetz' blog post about what's stopping anyone on the street from<br>
>> accessing servers hosted in their "server farm" (short summary: nothing)<br>
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> Just that Hetz is talking about Bezeq International's farm (Petach Tikva)<br>
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> ... while Bezeq is a different company, which has a state of the art<br>
> facility, located in Jaffa [1].<br>
</div><div class="im">> [1] <a href="http://www.bezeq.co.il/Business/Data/datacenter/Pages/datacenter.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.bezeq.co.il/Business/Data/datacenter/Pages/datacenter.aspx</a><br>
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</div>Thanks for the update.<br>
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I still don't see what in that flashy web site (please excuse the pun)<br>
promises that nobody but authorised personnel will gain access to your<br>
servers. E.g. See SAS-70 requirements for data centre access control:<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAS_70" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAS_70</a> or maybe better:<br>
<a href="http://sas70.com/sas70_overview.html" target="_blank">http://sas70.com/sas70_overview.html</a><br>
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The point that I took from Hetz' blog, and I'm saying too, is that the<br>
organisation can hand wave as much as it like about "secure<br>
facilities" but if there are no repercussions for its employees<br>
failing to follow security procedures (like it losing its SAS-70<br>
certification) then it's meaningless.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div><br>I agree that they're not too verbose on the website.<br><br>Personally I wasn't there, but I had a talk with a Bezeq sales rep who mentioned it as one of their new services.<br>
<br>From what he said (and this is from memory, so don't trust me on this) - this is an underground self-sustained facility, with multiple access controls on the way to the farm itself (biometric and guarded), and the server themselves are in isolated areas (and anyways, you can get your own cage that only you can access...). I think MED-1 also has something similar.<br>
<br>This (if true...) is by far better than what I've seen in Bezeqint and 012's farms, which I was in. Bezeqint used to request an ID - now they don't - I don't know why. 012 still asked me for ID last time I was there... never checked Netvision/013.<br>
<br>Anyways, the Bezeq rep invited me to visit and see for myself if I want (with a notice ahead, of course...). He did note that their prices are considerably higher than the ones of the ISPs - but you attribute that not only to the facility cost, but also to the fact, that, after all, this is still Bezeq. I guess you can ask for a visit too, and get an impression yourself.<br>
<br></div></div>-- Shimi<br></div>