<div dir="ltr">חנונים are nerds, there's a difference.<br><a href="http://www.nerdist.com/2010/03/geeknerddorkdweeb-venn-diagram/">http://www.nerdist.com/2010/03/geeknerddorkdweeb-venn-diagram/</a><br><br>I think what people object to here (or at least what I object to) is the entire premise of the whole show.<br>
There are a few base assumptions here which are, imo, not necessarily true:<br><br> 1. All geeks are men.<br> 2. By inference, no pretty women are geeks.<br> 3. Men geeks want an air-headed pretty woman as their significant other.<br>
4. Men geeks are incapable of talking to and impressing a woman on their own, and therefore need a tv show to do it for them.<br><br>The whole show is degrading and embarrassing to any intelligent person, men and women alike. The only possible reason I can see for wanting to participate in this show is to say "Look Ma! I'm on TV!" Which is a boneheaded reason.<br>
I think that's why anybody who does participate should not affiliate him/herself with any self-respecting geek organization.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Uri Even-Chen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:uri@speedy.net">uri@speedy.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:08, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <<a href="mailto:ladypine@gmail.com">ladypine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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><br>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Uri Even-Chen <<a href="mailto:uri@speedy.net">uri@speedy.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 09:08, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <<a href="mailto:ladypine@gmail.com">ladypine@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Clarification: even though I forwarded this to the list as part of my<br>
>> > role as co-webmaster of haifux, and as a service to the community, I<br>
>> > strongly join guy's view, and more:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Please do not embarrass Haifux/Linux-il by declaring yourselves as<br>
>> > members, when taking part in a stereotypic low-denominator TV program.<br>
>><br>
>> I suppose you don't expect pretty young girls to use Linux. So I guess<br>
>> you think the men who use Linux are all geeks?<br>
><br>
> I think there are many geeks (and I do not mean "hnoonim"=socially<br>
> challenged , but people who are autodidact, keen on technology/science, have<br>
> a lot of enthusiasm and proud of it) in the FOSS community, both male and<br>
> female. I doubt the production was looking for the females, though, when<br>
> they asked me to forward this.<br>
<br>
</div>I think this list is at least 90% men. And the Hebrew word for geeks<br>
is חנונים...<br>
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