<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Mordecha Behar</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mordecha.behar@mail.huji.ac.il">mordecha.behar@mail.huji.ac.il</a>></span><br>
Date: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:43 PM<br>Subject: Re: Finally - A RMS talk in Tel-Aviv. Including details<br>To: Tzafrir Cohen <<a href="mailto:tzafrir@cohens.org.il">tzafrir@cohens.org.il</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tzafrir@cohens.org.il" target="_blank">tzafrir@cohens.org.il</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Written off-list,<br>
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On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 08:26:39PM +0300, Mordecha Behar wrote:<br>
> 2011/7/17 Dima (Dan) Yasny <<a href="mailto:dyasny@gmail.com" target="_blank">dyasny@gmail.com</a>><br>
><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Orr Dunkelman <<a href="mailto:orr.dunkelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">orr.dunkelman@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Michael Shiloh<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</a>> >> To be more general, it is unheard of<br>
> >> for a prospective guest to set<br>
> >> >> political conditions for his hosts. Aside of any other aspects, the man<br>
> >> >> is a boor, and should have been ignored.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I'm not sure that's true. Haven't musicians and other performers used<br>
> >> their<br>
> >> > platform as a way to express agreement or disagreement with particular<br>
> >> > political positions for ages?<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Michael<br>
> >><br>
> >> It is very rare in computer science to mix politics and work.<br>
> >> Actually, this is true for most exact sciences.<br>
> >><br>
> >> As for RMS, who is an advocate of freedom of rights, he has just<br>
> >> agreed to accept money (travel costs) in exchange for giving away his<br>
> >> freedom of speech.<br>
> >> Tz'e Wolmad...<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> > /me don't see what the argument is about. I'll simply vote against RMS's<br>
> > and his politically inclined friends bs with my feet by _not_ going. End of<br>
> > story<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> Yes, there is that.<br>
> But thanks to the law passed last week we can also take affirmative action.<br>
> I don't think that suing RMS or the FSF will be a good idea, or even<br>
> feasible (IANAL and I'm pretty sure that this law doesn't hold for<br>
> people/groups from abroad) but we might be able to sue the group financing<br>
> his trip.<br>
> Again, I'm not sure that that's even a good idea. But it is possible.<br>
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</div></div>While I find RMS's actions silly and damaging, I will take no part in<br>
such an action. I might even consider donating that group some money to<br>
cover their expences in case you actually go through with your actions.<br>
<br>
I'm for free speach here.<br>
<br>
Now, count to 10, relax a bit, read things through, and don't follow up<br>
on a flame fest.<br>
<br></blockquote></div></div><div><br>Hey, I'm not saying we <b>should</b> sue, I'm just saying it's an option. And not a good one.<br>We will alienate ourselves in the worldwide community of open software, and probably burn several bridges which will be very hard to rebuild.<br>
I too resent the whole idea of mixing computer science and politics. It makes the whole thing stink like unwashed feet.<br>I'm just a little disappointed that the whole saga unraveled like this. I had higher opinions of RMS before this.<br>
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Oh, and: GetTheFacts: <a href="http://stallmanfacts.com/" target="_blank">http://stallmanfacts.com/</a> .<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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