<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:15 AM, guy keren <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:choo@actcom.co.il">choo@actcom.co.il</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

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except for one thing: the number of &quot;manot&quot; that one will actually get<br>
is a big unknown - and this is not written anywhere clearly.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>The standard is 5 for a full timer. One additional mana you can get from your advisor, and you can get upto 7 if you win a special prize.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">


in addition, the ability to become a teaching assistant is not clear in<br>
advance - and this can have a noticeable effect too.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In the Technion in CS, it is hard NOT to be a TA, if you are an internal student.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">


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On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 21:55 +0300, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="http://grad.technion.ac.il/heb/" target="_blank">http://grad.technion.ac.il/heb/</a> ; Go to Melagot - Clali.<br>
&gt; This is getting a bit OT, IMHO, and a bit RTFM.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Orna<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Shahar Dag &lt;<a href="mailto:dag@cs.technion.ac.il">dag@cs.technion.ac.il</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;         Hi<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         If you are an internal student and a teaching assistant, then<br>
&gt;         (at list at the Technion) you can get a scholarship + some low<br>
&gt;         salary. I don&#39;t know what is the current amount<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Shahar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         ----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Antony Gelberg&quot;<br>
&gt;         &lt;<a href="mailto:antony.gelberg@gmail.com">antony.gelberg@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         To: &quot;Shahar Dag&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dag@cs.technion.ac.il">dag@cs.technion.ac.il</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         Cc: &quot;Linux-IL&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:27 AM<br>
&gt;         Subject: Re: Postgraduate studies<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Very interesting, thank you.  How many hours per week did you<br>
&gt;         have to<br>
&gt;         devote to the MSc?  As for enjoying studies less, I hear you<br>
&gt;         but I<br>
&gt;         think I would less-enjoy having no cash-flow to pay the bills.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         I have also been considering whether a second degree in<br>
&gt;         management<br>
&gt;         e.g. MSc Management, or MBA may be more beneficial career-wise<br>
&gt;         than<br>
&gt;         another geeky MSc.  :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         2011/7/31 Shahar Dag &lt;<a href="mailto:dag@cs.technion.ac.il">dag@cs.technion.ac.il</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 ----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Antony Gelberg&quot;<br>
&gt;                 &lt;<a href="mailto:antony.gelberg@gmail.com">antony.gelberg@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;                 To: &quot;Linux-IL&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;                 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:53 PM<br>
&gt;                 Subject: OT: Postgraduate studies<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                         (I hope this isn&#39;t so off-topic as to cause<br>
&gt;                         offence.)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                         I&#39;m an computer scientist and oleh chadash ,<br>
&gt;                         just finished ulpan bet<br>
&gt;                         plus. 15 years experience in the field, 1.5<br>
&gt;                         years in Israel, was CTO<br>
&gt;                         of a startup last year, this year I&#39;ve been<br>
&gt;                         mostly studying Hebrew.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                         So now it&#39;s time to polish off my CV and<br>
&gt;                         further my career. I&#39;ve been<br>
&gt;                         browsing the main Israeli high-tech websites<br>
&gt;                         today, as an example I<br>
&gt;                         was just looking at the IBM Research Labs -<br>
&gt;                         very interesting indeed.<br>
&gt;                         However most positions seem to require an MSc.<br>
&gt;                         There is a definite<br>
&gt;                         cultural difference between here and the UK in<br>
&gt;                         terms of second degrees<br>
&gt;                         - I don&#39;t have one. I&#39;m 34 and don&#39;t want to<br>
&gt;                         hang about forever, but<br>
&gt;                         at the same time I might consider postgraduate<br>
&gt;                         studies if they were<br>
&gt;                         really useful career-wise. Naturally, it&#39;s<br>
&gt;                         also too late in the year<br>
&gt;                         to apply for the upcoming academic year...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                         I&#39;d be interested to hear any thoughts from<br>
&gt;                         the list on whether it<br>
&gt;                         would be a Good Idea to consider an MSc at<br>
&gt;                         this point, or whether I<br>
&gt;                         should settle for a role where &quot;just&quot; a BSc is<br>
&gt;                         required, and see if I<br>
&gt;                         can work with future employer to study whilst<br>
&gt;                         I work...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                         Antony<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 Hello Antony<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 I have a first degree in computer engineering from the<br>
&gt;                 Technion (faculty:<br>
&gt;                 electrical eng.). After several years of working as<br>
&gt;                 computer engineer, I<br>
&gt;                 also got an Msc. from the Technion. My Msc is in<br>
&gt;                 artificial intelligence and<br>
&gt;                 I did it as external student again in electrical eng.<br>
&gt;                 since (at the time)<br>
&gt;                 they were more liberal regarding external students.<br>
&gt;                 The only difference from<br>
&gt;                 learning in computer science is that I had to take an<br>
&gt;                 advanced course in<br>
&gt;                 mathematics. Learning in parallel to full time job is<br>
&gt;                 not easy, but I think<br>
&gt;                 that the main disadvantage is that you don&#39;t have time<br>
&gt;                 to enjoy your study.<br>
&gt;                 You do only the bare minimum and you don&#39;t have time<br>
&gt;                 for extra courses,<br>
&gt;                 seminars and special lectures.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 When I look back, I think that a professional MSc. was<br>
&gt;                 a mistake (I never<br>
&gt;                 felt it helped me at work, but who knows), I should<br>
&gt;                 instead do a second<br>
&gt;                 degree in management.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 I hope that I gave you some helpful hints<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 Shahar<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.<br><a href="http://ladypine.org">http://ladypine.org</a><br>
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