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    On 01/14/2012 12:30 PM, Amichai Rotman wrote:
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      <div dir="ltr">So, how do we start the list?
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        <div>Can we host it on HUJI servers?</div>
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        <div>I am reluctant of using those public list servers (like
          Yahoo! Groups) - is there a way to start an Israeli specific
          list on Google Groups?</div>
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    I can host it on lingnu, if anyone is interested. I don't think I
    like it to be English only, though. The original Android forums
    should be good enough for that.<br>
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    Developer oriented, yes.<br>
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    Shachar<br>
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        <div>Thanks</div>
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        <div>Amichai.<br>
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              On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:14, Nadav Har'El <span
                dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:nyh@math.technion.ac.il">nyh@math.technion.ac.il</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
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                On Fri, Jan 13, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="tel:2012" value="+9722012">2012</a>, Erez D
                wrote about "Re: [OUT?] Help with Android?":<br>
                <div class="im">&gt; I bet most of the people on this
                  list have a fridge. I have a fridge<br>
                  &gt; question .... (just kidding, couldn't help it).<br>
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                The difference being that there is (I believe) a large
                intersection<br>
                between the people interested in Linux internals and in
                Android<br>
                internals, while the intersection with people interested
                in Fridge<br>
                internals is, I belive, lower.<br>
                <div class="im"><br>
                  &gt; I am an android user/developer as part of my job.
                  however, android is not<br>
                  &gt; linux. at least not gnu/linux, and should have
                  it's own list.<br>
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                &gt;...<br>
                <div class="im">&gt; anyway, i would be happy to join an
                  android related israeli mailing list.<br>
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                I agree that there should be an Android mailing list,
                and would also be happy<br>
                to join it if someone creates one.<br>
                <br>
                I'm not sure, though, how in this decade we can justify
                why an *English*<br>
                (not Hebrew) mailing list (not forum or some facebook
                crap) for *Israelis*<br>
                (not for the whole world) is what we need, and who will
                it be for (Just<br>
                developers and aspiring developer? Or everyone who
                yesterday got an Android<br>
                phone as a default through some deal? I would rather it
                be defined as<br>
                the former - a list of (at least) aspiring developers.)<br>
                <div class="im"><br>
                  &gt; btw, if one is an app programmer, one does
                  usually not touch anything<br>
                  &gt; related to linux, it's just java and special
                  android api. (rarely use NDK).<br>
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                This is almost like saying that Emacs questions are not
                related to<br>
                Linux, because it's just Lisp and special Emacs APIs...
                While Android is<br>
                very different from "GNU/Linux", it is Linux with a
                diffferent set of<br>
                applications, and much of the philosophy of its
                developers (although<br>
                unfortunately not all of it) is similar to that of Linux
                developers.<br>
                <div class="im"><br>
                  &gt; i guess there should be more than one. IAAD -
                  israeli android app devel,<br>
                  &gt; and IAD - israeli android devel (create your own
                  android distro).<br>
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                Why this separation into various kinds of developers?
                It's almost like<br>
                separating linux-il into separate mailing lists for
                Linux application<br>
                developers and Linux kernel developers, and perhaps
                further into Fedora<br>
                users, Ubuntu users, game players, and other
                subpopulations. I don't<br>
                think there's enough members or list traffic to justify
                such a division,<br>
                yet.<br>
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                    --<br>
                    Nadav Har'El                        |              
                       Saturday, Jan 14 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="tel:2012" value="+9722012">2012</a>,<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:nyh@math.technion.ac.il">nyh@math.technion.ac.il</a>
                               
                    |-----------------------------------------<br>
                    Phone <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="tel:%2B972-523-790466" value="+972523790466">+972-523-790466</a>,
                    ICQ 13349191 |A facility for quotation covers the<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://nadav.harel.org.il" target="_blank">http://nadav.harel.org.il</a>
                              |absence of original thought.<br>
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