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I have nothing much against network manager, especially these days
with wifi and wpa etc which is a mess to setup manually. On a laptop
it's a lifesaver (although I always get into trouble when I try to
manually set an IP address). It's just that with a server (or even a
remotely accessed desktop), that has a single wired Ethernet
connection, it's an overkill and causes problems if it requires
actual local user logon before it has a network. And if it's a
headless machine, that is not even an option.<br>
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Anyways, thanks for the pointers, trying them out now. For some
reason, the machine doesn't seem to actually reboot when I type
reboot from the ssh terminal, but rather it just logs out, so it
takes some time to get feedback (I need someone there physically to
reboot).<br>
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Thanks<br>
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On 08/03/12 06:47, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
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On 03/08/2012 12:21 AM, Micha wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I believe I pinpointed the problem tp NetworkManager being installed and
enabled, which means that no network connection is actually configured
before a user is logged in.</pre>
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No, it does not mean that at all. Simply set your eth0 connection
to be a "system connection" to resolve your problem.<br>
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On a wider note, I, too, used to hate Network Manager. It seemed
like such an over complication in relation to such things as:<br>
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/etc/network/interfaces doesn't exist, so I'm not sure how this is
supposed to be achieved these days (under debian it's still there, just
not active by default).</pre>
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The thing that finally broke me in was the utter impossibility of
setting up a WPA connection without it. It was then easier to
learn how to live with it than to fight its installation (and, on
Debian, all you really have to do is uninstall it, and perhaps
also avahi, which I still hate).<br>
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The thing is, network manager brings unity (I know, bad pun) to an
area that used to diverge so much between the distributions. I
can't really call that a bad thing. Unlike what its reputation
suggests, the global configuration isn't so cryptic. Just create a
text file under /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections. Ugly
uppercase apart - quite straight forward. I'd like the GUI
managers to be more consistent, but that is really a minor quibble
compared to the situation before NM.<br>
<br>
Shachar<br>
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