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    1. Is there MAC filtering or any other filter?<br>
    2. DHCP definitions  ( are you using it at all? )<br>
    3. Router constraints: number of connected users etc.<br>
    <br>
    I hope you get my drift. <br>
    <br>
    Moish<br>
    <br>
    On 15/03/2012 08:45, Stan Goodman wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:201203150845.38780.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com"
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        -qt-user-state:0;">On Thursday, March 15, 2012 01:17:54 Meir
        Michanie wrote:</p>
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        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
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      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; My AEG oven clock is out of sync and
        connecting your HTC Aria to a</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; wireless router request for support
        would be better answered at</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lmgtfy.com/">http://lmgtfy.com/</a> "Let me google that
        for you"</p>
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        margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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      </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">I apologize if my query seems to be
        inappropriate for this list. There has been activity here about
        Android phones, and the members seem to be very knowledgeable
        about them. I hoped someone would spot the source of the
        malfunction (whether it is in the hardware, firmware, or between
        the keypad and the chair).</p>
      <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
        margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
        -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br>
      </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">Since I have followed carefully the simple
        directions of the User's Guide, with the result I described in
        my query, and I have already googled, albeit without the aid of
        the link you have kindly provided, it seems to me that I need to
        submit the problem in the manner that I did; I am not able to
        encapsulate it in a few keywords. Apparently this is not the
        place. Sorry. Because the firmware is also suspect, and because
        this is specific to Cellcom, the provider, and not identical
        with the original, It seems obvious to me that I must seek
        advice from Israeli users. If that is misguided, again, I
        apologize. And no, the "technical support" people at Cellcom
        (better described as "trained seals") are of no help whatever.</p>
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        margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
        -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br>
      </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">And please accept my regrets for the problem
        of your oven clock.</p>
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        margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
        -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br>
      </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; 2012/3/14 Stan Goodman
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stan.goodman@hashkedim.com">&lt;stan.goodman@hashkedim.com&gt;</a>:</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; This is my first smart phone, an
        HTC Aria, and I am learning it bit</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; by bit. I am having difficulty in
        having it communicate with my</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; LAN through my wireless router,
        specifically getting through the</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; WPA authentication, although that
        would seem to be a very simple</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; and straightforward matter.</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; The phone does see the router's
        signal, remembers its SSID, and</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; reports that it has good signal
        strength. The only missing step is</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; entering the password.</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; When I am asked to enter the
        password, I type it in and press</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &lt;Connect&gt;. The instrument
        then checks its authenticity, and the</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; next thing that appears on the
        screen is the empty password field,</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; so I understand that authentication
        failed.</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; But the password I have entered
        (many times, out of disbelief and</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; frustration) is the correct one. I
        know this because it is</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; successful with my laptop. When I
        access the web server of the</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; browser, I can see the password
        that the router knows it has, and</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; that is what I have been feeding
        the phone -- all lower-case</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; characters. I do not understand why
        the same string fails with the</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; phone.</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; For what it's worth, the phone is
        able to connect with another</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; wireless net that doesn't require
        authentication.</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Here are the security details of
        the wireless router:</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Network authentication: WPA2-PSK</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; WPA Group Rekey Interval: 0</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; WPA/WPA1 Encryption: AES</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; I would be grateful for any helpful
        advice.</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; --</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Stan Goodman</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Qiryat Tiv'on</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Israel</p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
      <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
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        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;
        _______________________________________________</p>
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        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Linux-il mailing list</p>
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        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a></p>
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        margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
        -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il">http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il</a></p>
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