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> Tom and Guy - since you both mentioned printers that do scan when<br>
> there's no ink, I'd be happy to know what specific models. And it goes<br>
> without saying that the scanning must work under Linux.</div><br>Canon MX-310. I'd probably be better off with a laser printer, but for now this is what I'm using. Yes, it works in Linux. I remember I chose a driver from a different, but similar model. I don't remember which one. Maybe a Canon Pixma.<br>
<br>Tom<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:linux-il-request@cs.huji.ac.il" target="_blank">linux-il-request@cs.huji.ac.il</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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1. Re: printer (Shachar Shemesh)<br>
2. Re: printer (Guy Gold)<br>
3. Printer (Tom Balazs)<br>
4. Re: printer (Amichai Rotman)<br>
5. Re: printer (Shlomo Solomon)<br>
6. Researcher night tomorrow, Yael Vaya Talmor's talk postponed<br>
(Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda)<br>
7. Re: printer (Guy Gold)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:47:17 +0300<br>
From: Shachar Shemesh <<a href="mailto:shachar@shemesh.biz">shachar@shemesh.biz</a>><br>
To: Constantine Shulyupin <<a href="mailto:const@makelinux.co.il">const@makelinux.co.il</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a><br>
Subject: Re: printer<br>
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On 09/19/2012 06:45 PM, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:<br>
> Which multifunctional printer for home (SOHO) would you recommend to<br>
> purchase from available currently in Israel?<br>
> Which store network?<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
Mac OsX uses CUPS for printing, so, lately, pretty much all of them are<br>
supported. YMMV, of course.<br>
<br>
Also, a while back HP were writing their own open source drivers for<br>
their printers. That gave them some points.<br>
<br>
Shachar<br>
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--<br>
Shachar Shemesh<br>
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:46:11 -0400<br>
From: Guy Gold <<a href="mailto:guy1gold@gmail.com">guy1gold@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Linux-IL <<a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a>><br>
Subject: Re: printer<br>
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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Shlomo Solomon <<a href="mailto:shlomo.solomon@gmail.com">shlomo.solomon@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> On a related note, do you know if the scanning and faxing on this (or<br>
> any other) printer works when there's no ink? My scanner died and I<br>
> thought of buying a multi-function as a replacement, since all the<br>
> scanners I found were expensive. But I do VERY little<br>
> printing and don't want to be forced to buy ink just to use the<br>
> scanner.<br>
><br>
><br>
I have a Brother MFC all-in-one (cannot recall the exact model) , The<br>
scanner works fine after there's not ink in some of the cartridges, and ,<br>
as far as I recall , fax is fine as well, however, you cannot print black<br>
and white , even if they are full, unless all cartridges (color) have some<br>
ink in them.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Guy Gold<br>
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Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:22:35 +0300<br>
From: Tom Balazs <<a href="mailto:tom123online@gmail.com">tom123online@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a><br>
Subject: Printer<br>
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Keep in mind that if you print mostly black and white (greyscale) documents<br>
that a laser printer is MUCH cheaper when you consider the price of toner /<br>
cartridges. Also, inkjet printers use up the color cartridge even if you<br>
only print only greyscale documents (why?).<br>
<br>
In both laser and inkjet the cost of the printer is negligable, you must<br>
include the cost of toner / cartridges.<br>
<br>
My Canon inkjet print / fax / copy / scan will scan and copy even when the<br>
ink cartridge is empty. But it will not print a greyscale document when the<br>
color cartridge is empty - it uses one cartridge for all colors :-(<br>
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Tom<br>
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Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:12:30 +0300<br>
From: Amichai Rotman <<a href="mailto:amichai@iglu.org.il">amichai@iglu.org.il</a>><br>
To: Guy Gold <<a href="mailto:guy1gold@gmail.com">guy1gold@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: printer<br>
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I know Brother support Linux. I recommend Laser printers, if you don't do<br>
much printing. I now prefer Samsung printers. usually works out of the box<br>
- no additional software needed (at least in Ubuntu).<br>
I'd recommend visiting the stores near your house, check the service status<br>
(how much it costs to fix and buy Toner etc.). Make note of some of the<br>
models you find interesting and check them against this resource:<br>
<br>
OpenPrinting Printer List <<a href="http://openprinting.org/printers" target="_blank">http://openprinting.org/printers</a>><br>
<br>
My mom bought the following printer:<br>
<br>
Samsung SCX4623F <<a href="http://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=745898" target="_blank">http://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=745898</a>> and she<br>
is very pleased. Haven't tried it with Linux though... This specific model<br>
isn't on the OpenPrint list, but model SCX-4828FN is listed as Perfectly.<br>
This model is the same, just the Networked version.<br>
<br>
Tip: Try installing the printer without any drivers first.<br>
<br>
Good Hunting<br>
Amichai Rotman<br>
Penguin - FLOSS Computer Service and Technical Consulting<br>
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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Guy Gold <<a href="mailto:guy1gold@gmail.com">guy1gold@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Shlomo Solomon <<a href="mailto:shlomo.solomon@gmail.com">shlomo.solomon@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On a related note, do you know if the scanning and faxing on this (or<br>
>> any other) printer works when there's no ink? My scanner died and I<br>
>> thought of buying a multi-function as a replacement, since all the<br>
>> scanners I found were expensive. But I do VERY little<br>
>> printing and don't want to be forced to buy ink just to use the<br>
>> scanner.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
> I have a Brother MFC all-in-one (cannot recall the exact model) , The<br>
> scanner works fine after there's not ink in some of the cartridges, and ,<br>
> as far as I recall , fax is fine as well, however, you cannot print black<br>
> and white , even if they are full, unless all cartridges (color) have some<br>
> ink in them.<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Guy Gold<br>
><br>
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Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:58:17 +0300<br>
From: Shlomo Solomon <<a href="mailto:shlomo.solomon@gmail.com">shlomo.solomon@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a><br>
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Thanks to Amichai, Tom and Guy.<br>
<br>
Amichai - I agree that a laser is a better deal because of ink/toner<br>
prices. In fact I have 2 on my home network. But possibly I was not<br>
clear enough in my original question. I'm looking for a CHEAP fax/scan<br>
alternative and it seems that today even the cheapest scanners are more<br>
expensive than cheap multi-function ink-jets. But since I won't use it<br>
at all for printing (only scanning/faxing), the ink will dry up in a<br>
short time and could potentially make the device unusable.<br>
<br>
Tom and Guy - since you both mentioned printers that do scan when<br>
there's no ink, I'd be happy to know what specific models. And it goes<br>
without saying that the scanning must work under Linux.<br>
<br>
Thanks again.<br>
<br>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:12:30 +0300<br>
Amichai Rotman <<a href="mailto:amichai@iglu.org.il">amichai@iglu.org.il</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> I know Brother support Linux. I recommend Laser printers, if you<br>
> don't do much printing. I now prefer Samsung printers. usually works<br>
> out of the box<br>
> - no additional software needed (at least in Ubuntu).<br>
> I'd recommend visiting the stores near your house, check the service<br>
> status (how much it costs to fix and buy Toner etc.). Make note of<br>
> some of the models you find interesting and check them against this<br>
> resource:<br>
><br>
> OpenPrinting Printer List <<a href="http://openprinting.org/printers" target="_blank">http://openprinting.org/printers</a>><br>
><br>
> My mom bought the following printer:<br>
><br>
> Samsung SCX4623F <<a href="http://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=745898" target="_blank">http://www.zap.co.il/model.aspx?modelid=745898</a>> and<br>
> she is very pleased. Haven't tried it with Linux though... This<br>
> specific model isn't on the OpenPrint list, but model SCX-4828FN is<br>
> listed as Perfectly. This model is the same, just the Networked<br>
> version.<br>
><br>
> Tip: Try installing the printer without any drivers first.<br>
><br>
> Good Hunting<br>
> Amichai Rotman<br>
> Penguin - FLOSS Computer Service and Technical Consulting<br>
> <a href="tel:%2B972-73-7962360" value="+972737962360">+972-73-7962360</a> || <a href="tel:%2B972-54-4605787" value="+972544605787">+972-54-4605787</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Guy Gold <<a href="mailto:guy1gold@gmail.com">guy1gold@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Shlomo Solomon<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:shlomo.solomon@gmail.com">shlomo.solomon@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> On a related note, do you know if the scanning and faxing on this<br>
> >> (or any other) printer works when there's no ink? My scanner died<br>
> >> and I thought of buying a multi-function as a replacement, since<br>
> >> all the scanners I found were expensive. But I do VERY little<br>
> >> printing and don't want to be forced to buy ink just to use the<br>
> >> scanner.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> > I have a Brother MFC all-in-one (cannot recall the exact model) ,<br>
> > The scanner works fine after there's not ink in some of the<br>
> > cartridges, and , as far as I recall , fax is fine as well,<br>
> > however, you cannot print black and white , even if they are full,<br>
> > unless all cartridges (color) have some ink in them.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Guy Gold<br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Linux-il mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a><br>
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> ><br>
> ><br>
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--<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:11:42 +0200<br>
From: Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <<a href="mailto:ladypine@gmail.com">ladypine@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Haifa Linux Club <<a href="mailto:haifux@haifux.org">haifux@haifux.org</a>>, linux-il<br>
<<a href="mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il">linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il</a>>, <a href="mailto:haifux-announce@hamakor.org.il">haifux-announce@hamakor.org.il</a><br>
Subject: Researcher night tomorrow, Yael Vaya Talmor's talk postponed<br>
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Hello Haifuxers,<br>
<br>
Note that tomorrow's talk was postponed due to the scientist night events<br>
in the Technion. Yael's talk was postponed to November 12th.<br>
<br>
Details on the event: <a href="http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/he/news/2012/553/" target="_blank">http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/he/news/2012/553/</a><br>
<br>
Thanks to Motty and Miki for noticing the inconsistency on the website.<br>
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Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.<br>
<a href="http://ladypine.org" target="_blank">http://ladypine.org</a><br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:32:07 -0400<br>
From: Guy Gold <<a href="mailto:guy1gold@gmail.com">guy1gold@gmail.com</a>><br>
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On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Shlomo Solomon<br>
<<a href="mailto:shlomo.solomon@gmail.com">shlomo.solomon@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
> Tom and Guy - since you both mentioned printers that do scan when<br>
> there's no ink, I'd be happy to know what specific models. And it goes<br>
> without saying that the scanning must work under Linux.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
Mine is Brother MFC-J410W , it is an all-in-one WiFi enabled. All the<br>
announced features worked in LInux .<br>
I actually tested it under Ubuntu 11.10 , the way that Brother provides the<br>
drivers, I don't see a reason why it will<br>
not work under Debian, they do have drivers for the Red-Had family as well.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Guy Gold<br>
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