<div dir="ltr">Hi Mord,<div><br></div><div style>You are looking for something like this:community: <a href="http://www.kml.co.il/Models/%D7%98%D7%95%D7%99%D7%95%D7%98%D7%94_%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A1">http://www.kml.co.il/Models/%D7%98%D7%95%D7%99%D7%95%D7%98%D7%94_%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A1</a></div>
<div style><br></div><div style>But you are right that hybrid cars have a lot of user-visible algorithms in them, and I think this makes it interesting to reverse-engineer.</div><div style><br></div><div style>I think the most important division of hybrid cars is if the electric engine can be a stand-alone (like Toyota and Lexus) or is just a helper (like Honda Insight). A stand-alone electric motor will reduce your gas consumption in traffic jams, and a helper engine will give you additional boost when needed (instead of getting a larger engine to begin with).</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>If you are looking for real efficiency, you want a small car with a hybrid stand alone engine, which is what the Toyota Yaris gives you. </div><div style><br></div><div style>However, you also need to look into the algorithmics of the car. For example, the older Prius (2005-2009) would charge its battery when you are standing, just because it got empty (in case you want to boost your 1.5L engine soon). The B (Break?) gear is also interesting: The old Prius would just shift into low gear and actually consume more fuel, I believe, when you go down the mountain (and don't want to burn your breaks). However, when you slow down or use the B gear, the Lexus charges the battery more efficiently first, and only if it must - actually uses the breaks or other wasteful methods (at least in Eco mode).</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Another annoying piece of algorithm is that the old Prius refuses to run in ev mode (just electric motor) if you go above 40 Km/hour. This is rather stupid if you are just using your current speed to go down the mountain. </div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Orna</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mord Behar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mordbe0@gmail.com" target="_blank">mordbe0@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi<br>I know that this is off-topic, but I really don't know who to ask.<br>
See, I need a large pool of Linux-like brains that live in Israel for this.<br>I mean, people (like me) who track gas liters and kilometerage, wear and tear on the car, insurance and things like that.<br>
<br></div>Does anybody have numbers and experience to show how economical it is to buy a hybrid car, and which one?<br></div></div>At what point of city-driving and non-city-driving does it pay to buy a hybrid car? Gas is really expensive now, and probably just going to go up. But hybrid cars are expensive too and the shelf life of the battery is 5-10 years...<br>
</div>And I suppose that the terrain matters as well. In Jerusalem the hybrid car will use more gasoline than in Tel Aviv.<br>Thanks.<br><br></div>P.S.<br></div>Mods, if you remove this message I totally understand, but could you please point me somewhere else instead?<br>
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