<p dir="ltr">I spoke to my sons who are gamers and both said the choice of steam games under linux is very limited and many are buggy.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The both suggested that you should buy the games they want, not the ones that fit your politics.</p>
<p dir="ltr">As someone who uses Windows, Linux (ubuntu x64 and android) and iOS daily, I agree with them.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Geoff.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 17:45 E.S. Rosenberg <<a href="mailto:esr%2Blinux-il@g.jct.ac.il">esr+linux-il@g.jct.ac.il</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">2017-06-14 17:42 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg <<a href="mailto:esr%2Blinux-il@g.jct.ac.il" target="_blank">esr+linux-il@g.jct.ac.il</a>>:<br>
> As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without<br>
> that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise<br>
> you won't get performance.<br>
Should really have said: SteamOS and/or up-to-date gaming.<br>
><br>
> These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good<br>
> top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or<br>
> Humblebundle.<br>
><br>
> I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an<br>
> nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some<br>
> games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day)<br>
> some don't.<br>
><br>
> As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet<br>
> is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the<br>
> steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games<br>
> that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other<br>
> controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or<br>
> X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style<br>
> gaming.<br>
> Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have<br>
> been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high<br>
> enough priority, please let us know what you think of said<br>
> controllers.<br>
><br>
> HTH,<br>
> Eliyahu - אליהו<br>
><br>
> 2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara <<a href="mailto:gilboad@gmail.com" target="_blank">gilboad@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman <<a href="mailto:amichai@iglu.org.il" target="_blank">amichai@iglu.org.il</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hey All,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.<br>
>>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd educate them with the Libre Software values...<br>
>>> I didn't realize how hard it will be!<br>
>>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/<br>
>>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU<br>
>>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM<br>
>>> 256GB SSD<br>
>>> 2X SteamControllers<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card.<br>
>> Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will<br>
>> do just fine.<br>
>><br>
>> That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g.<br>
>> FHD T.V or LCD.<br>
>> (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a black screen after the first boot.<br>
>>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons,<br>
>> GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K).<br>
>> Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and finding games - and make them work.<br>
>><br>
>> Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero<br>
>> experience with it.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - yet...<br>
>>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...<br>
>>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost a year ago!<br>
>>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to come over and help me out with making it work.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Specific issues?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> I live in Haifa.<br>
>>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be appreciated.<br>
>>> Amichai Rotman.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to<br>
>> the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming.<br>
Don't forget PS4 actually runs some form of *BSD so that wouldn't be a<br>
total abandonment of principles ;)<br>
<br>
HTH,<br>
Eliyahu - אליהו<br>
>><br>
>> - Gilboa<br>
>><br>
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Geoffrey Mendelson<br>
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Jerusalem Israel</p>
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