<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I haven't tried it with Ubuntu, but since Ubuntu is trying to reach the corporate world, <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">and they are the first distro to support ZFS, <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I guess they will ensure you do not get A broken module, <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">and so I expect it to be A more smoothly experience.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">PS. even with Fedora, it only happen to me once, that the kernel was ahead of the package in the ZFS repo, and the package didn't build.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">and ever since I just check the github issue page before a major upgrade (eg. from F25->F26), to make sure there is no problem and there is A repo ready for the new release.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">but even if the build will fail for a new kernel, that only limit you from using the new kernel to access the data, you can still boot with the older kernel which the module was successfully compiled on it. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">--<br>Rabin</span></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 September 2017 at 13:00, Eli Billauer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eli@billauer.co.il" target="_blank">eli@billauer.co.il</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello Rabin,<br>
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Yes, I'm aware that it's a Solaris thing. Also that it comes with its own RAID kit and such.<br>
<br>
And the fact that it comes from the corporate world could be an advantage.<br>
<br>
But the question is if it's something I really would like to have on my next computer. Given that I like my computer working, and not me working on my computer. Your experience seems to say "wait a bit with that".<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Eli<span class=""><br>
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On 24/09/17 02:01, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:<br>
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ZFS is not "native" Linux fs, it was ported from Solaris & BSD OS's,<br></span>
you can read more about it in the history section of ZFS wiki page <<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#History" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki<wbr>/ZFS#History</a>>.<span class=""><br>
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- FreeNAS use it for the NAS storage pool,<br>
- Ubuntu/Canoncial started to integrate it with version 16.04 (IIRC)<br>
- and I also tried it on my laptop with Fedora (which some time's breaks because of the frequent Kernel upgrades)<br>
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On 23 September 2017 at 12:51, Eli Billauer <<a href="mailto:eli@billauer.co.il" target="_blank">eli@billauer.co.il</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:eli@billauer.co.il" target="_blank">eli@billauer.co.il</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Thanks, Ori.<br>
<br>
ZFS sounds interesting indeed. The question that comes to mind is:<br>
It's a different creature, with significant emphasis on stability<br>
and data integrity. How come it's unknown? Isn't this exactly what<br>
all companies with a lot of servers want?<br>
<br>
Anyone on this list using ZFS on his or her own computer?<br>
<br>
As for RAM corruption, I pretty much doubt it. I've seen a lot of<br>
it on embedded systems I've worked with. It always goes along with<br>
programs crashing suddenly and weird kernel messages. But my<br>
computer has been stable as a rock for several years.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Eli<br>
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On 22/09/17 17:12, Ori Berger wrote:<br>
<br>
This could be the result of anything from a power glitch,<br>
strong RF transmission from another device next to the<br>
computer, bad power supply or bad memory. The hard disk itself<br>
is not more suspect than any other component in your system.<br>
<br>
Personally, I've twice had data mysteriously corrupted (once<br>
on Win2K, once on Linux), and in both cases it turned out that<br>
the RAM was bad; Since then, I never start using a system<br>
until it has successfully run through 48 hours of memtest.<br>
<br>
When you install your next system, consider ZFS / ZoL - it<br>
tends to alert you to bad RAM or bad power supply rather quickly.<br>
<br>
On 09/22/2017 12:11 PM, Eli Billauer wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello all,<br>
<br>
TL;DR: My hard disk's filesystem was corrupt, but the<br>
SMART statistics<br>
is perfect. Should I replace the hard disk?<br>
<br>
<br>
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