<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Hi Geoffrey,<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:51 PM Geoffrey Mendelson <<a href="mailto:geoffreymendelson@gmail.com">geoffreymendelson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="auto">i went to the trouble of signing into one of my linux servers and reading the link.<br>
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It was your telling me not to talk about how RMS said as president of the FSF that he was going to honor the Palestinian boycott of Israel. It had nothing to do with linux mint.<br>
<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That link was to an archived Linux-IL post by Jeremy Hoyland (not by me) and it reads:</div><div><br></div><div>«</div><div><div class="gmail-msgHead"><p class="gmail-darkgray gmail-font13">
<span class="gmail-sender gmail-pipe"><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il&q=from:%22Jeremy+Hoyland%22" rel="nofollow"><span><span>Jeremy Hoyland</span></span></a></span>
<span class="gmail-date"><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il&q=date:20171120" rel="nofollow">Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:10:06 -0800</a></span>
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<pre>RMS was bullied into canceling his Israeli University talks by his (paying)
Palestinian hosts. He explains here:</pre><pre><a rel="nofollow" href="http://stallman.org/articles/palestine-trip.html">http://stallman.org/articles/palestine-trip.html</a>
Can we PLEASE stop playing politics now? This is NOT the right forum, and
we're none of us any good at it. RMS himself is a great example.
J.
[full disclosure; I use and enjoy Linux Mint, just as I enjoy the music of
Richard Wagner. Bad people can create good things]
</pre></div></div><div>»<br></div><div> </div><div>So it has everything to do with Linux Mint, and the tiresome argument that it should be avoided just because one of its lead developers may hold antisemitic views.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div name="messageBodySection"><div dir="auto">
Totally irrelevant.<br>
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Geoff.<br>
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As a side note, RMS jeapordized the FSF, project GNU, and pissed off Larry Ellison, who instead of giving Open Office to the FSF gave it to the Apache Foundation.<br></div>
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<div name="messageSignatureSection"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is discussed in Tzafrir's reply which was quoted in the reply to it in this exact link:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html">https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html</a></div><div> </div><div>I didn't write it either, but it seems to me that his doubts have some merit.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div name="messageSignatureSection">
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<div name="messageReplySection">On May 12, 2020, 10:23 AM +0300, Shlomi Fish <<a href="mailto:shlomif@gmail.com" target="_blank">shlomif@gmail.com</a>>, wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have now tested all three links using chromium-browser and the "lynx" browser on fedora and they all open fine in both browsers (as well as firefox). Something is broken on your end, and I have no control on proprietary browsers.<br></div>
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<div dir="auto">The link wont open. I tried chrome and safari.<br>
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<div>Which link? There were several in my original email. For the record, they all open fine in firefox on fedora 32 x64.</div>
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<div>Regarding Safari, see <a href="https://apple.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/2251253/is-safari-the-new-internet-explorer/" target="_blank">https://apple.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/2251253/is-safari-the-new-internet-explorer/</a> . Chrome is proprietary too (as opposed to chromium). Are you on an Apple iDevice?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Why not do some actual reasearch and look up the request that no one affiliated with the IDF use Linux Mint due to their trearment of the palestinians? Or his sorry, I pissed of the people that rule the world appology?<br>
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Dont take my word for it, you can find them in the internet archive.<br>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On May 12, 2020, 9:44 AM +0300, Shlomi Fish <<a href="mailto:shlomif@gmail.com" target="_blank">shlomif@gmail.com</a>>, wrote:<br>
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<div>Please see <a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html" target="_blank">https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html</a> and let's drop the "antisemitism" argument once and for all.</div>
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<div>That put aside there are other distributions that should hopefully be able to recognise and utilise most commodity hardware:</div>
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<div>* <a href="https://distrowatch.com/" target="_blank">https://distrowatch.com/</a></div>
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<div>* <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions</a></div>
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<div dir="auto"><span>Support antisemitism. Use Linux Mint.</span><br>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On May 12, 2020, 3:09 AM +0300, Shay Gover <<a href="mailto:govershay@gmail.com" target="_blank">govershay@gmail.com</a>>, wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Why not install yourself? use mint distro.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 11, 2020, 22:49 Dimid Duchovny <<a href="mailto:dimidd@gmail.com" target="_blank">dimidd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>I'm looking to buy a desktop computer with Linux pre-installed for a couple of senior citizens. I'd usually buy a generic PC and install myself, but now due to the coronavirus that's not an option.</div>
<div>The main uses are web browsing and skype/zoom. Looking for a stable distro and long term support (e.g. the latest Ubuntu LTS). The hardware needs to work out-of-the-box.</div>
<div>Specification wish list:</div>
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