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<div dir="auto">Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel</div>
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<div dir="auto">On May 13, 2020, 10:48 AM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir@cohens.org.il>, wrote:</div>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">At the time IBM really wanted to continue developing its own fork of</blockquote>
<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">OpenOffice and for that they did not want OpenOffice to continue with</blockquote>
<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">the LibreOffice fork, that already existed (and had a license that would</blockquote>
<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">prevent them from making a priprietary fork).</blockquote>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">That is the most probably cause for Oracle to move OpenOffice to Apache.</blockquote>
<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">Stallman wasn't really involved with LibreOffice at the time.</blockquote>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">You are guessing, sorry. While Ellison did not reveal his decision process, he is very pro Israel.</blockquote>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">Stallman wasnt involved because the FSF did not have control of OO and it was not covered by the GPL. Was the FSF interested in taking it over, no one has ever said officially, but there was plenty of people asking for it and speculation that it was going to happen.</blockquote>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">As for proprietary forks, the owners of Asterisk did exactly that. They sold a proprietary license to IBM for $10 million, screwing the people who contributed most of the code who did so because it was GPL.</blockquote>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">As for Linux Mint, you are welcome to "forgive and forget", I am not.</blockquote>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(26, 188, 156); margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px;">Geoff</blockquote>
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