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    <p>I'm not sure my opinion is worth more than anyone else, except I
      _am_ one of the admins.</p>
    <p>Diego: +1 for not sending your mail to the list. -1 for not CCing
      the actual admins, and another one for talking for the community.</p>
    <p>Ori: -1 for making this part of the thread public. If I may be so
      bold as to make a suggestion, simply ignoring Diego's mail would
      have been smarter.</p>
    <p>Shay: As far as I know, Nevo does not have police complaints, nor
      even unpublished verdicts. Even if a complaint was filed, it
      wouldn't have shown up. Feel free to correct me <b>in private</b>.</p>
    <p>Michael: +1 agree. I believe this list should judge people based
      on their behavior on or in relation to this list<br>
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    <p>Omer: As far as I can tell, Diego didn't send the request to the
      list (at least, I didn't get it on the list). It may well have
      been unintentional, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the
      doubt here. Also, please note that failing to prove a point is not
      the same as proving the opposite point. You are free to believe
      whatever you like, but that is still your belief, not established
      facts.<br>
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    <p>Someone identifying as linux.il: -5 for failing to distinguish
      between a SCSI cable and a differential SCSI cable. I'm really
      disappointed. From you, of all people, I expected better, whoever
      you are.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/05/2021 21:48, Ori Idan wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
        <div>If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your
          problem.</div>
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                Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM
          Diego Iastrubni <<a href="mailto:diegoiast@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">diegoiast@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Ori,
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            <div dir="auto">You are not welcome here. Please
              unsubscribe. </div>
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            <div dir="auto">Admins - please remove this convicted
              criminal from this list. This man is a stain on our
              community. </div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53
              PM Ori Idan <<a href="mailto:ori@heliconbooks.com"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ori@heliconbooks.com</a>>
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                <div>Note that Linux tries to use available memory for
                  cache, that is why free memory seems small.</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 4, 2021 at
                  2:48 PM <a href="http://linux.il" rel="noreferrer"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">linux.il</a>
                  <<a href="mailto:linux.il@gmail.com"
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                  <div dir="ltr">Omer, thank you!<br>
                    Is it related to the "Inactive" count
                    from /proc/meminfo?
                    <div>I used to think that
                      available=free+cache+buffers...</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 4,
                      2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak <<a
                        href="mailto:w1@zak.co.il" rel="noreferrer"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">w1@zak.co.il</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                      rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">From man free:<br>
                      <br>
                      available<br>
                                    Estimation of how much memory is
                      available for starting<br>
                      new applications, without swapping. Unlike the
                      data provided  by<br>
                                    the  cache  or free fields, this
                      field takes into account<br>
                      page cache and also that not all reclaimable
                      memory slabs will<br>
                                    be reclaimed due to items being in
                      use (MemAvailable in<br>
                      /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14, 
                      emulated  on  kernels<br>
                                    2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free)<br>
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                      On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, <a
                        href="http://linux.il" rel="noreferrer
                        noreferrer" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">linux.il</a> wrote:<br>
                      > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm
                      missing something?<br>
                      > Any ideas?<br>
                      > <br>
                      > TIA, Vitaly<br>
                      > <br>
                      > free -m<br>
                      >               total        used        free 
                          shared  buff/cache  <br>
                      > available<br>
                      > Mem:          31654       29883         937 
                               1         832  <br>
                      >     27675<br>
                      > Swap:             0           0           0<br>
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                      -- <br>
                      "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great
                      wealth was by<br>
                      looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow
                      man. Capitalism made it<br>
                      possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow
                      man." - Walter E.<br>
                      Williams<br>
                      My own blog is at <a
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                      My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message,
                      are mine alone.<br>
                      They do not represent the official policy of any
                      organization with<br>
                      which I may be affiliated in any way.<br>
                      WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  at <a
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