[RBS] Rosenblum article IS on JPost site

[LFried]

Go to JPost.com.  Put "Rosenblum" in the search box and it is the first
article on the list that comes up:
http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Opinion/Article.aspx?id=237204.

 

Yissachar

 

From: Moshe Burt [mailto:olehchadash at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:54 PM
To: rbs at cs.huji.ac.il
Cc: lfried at shemesh.co.il
Subject: Re: Rbs Digest, Vol 31, Issue 44

 

Clicking on the url, it says the following:


Mayor Abutbol -- Say No to Extremism


by Jonathan Rosenblum
Jerusalem Post
September 9, 2011


But a google search on the title shows no such article in the Jerusalem
Post.

I wonder why Rosenblum's article below never made it to Jerusalem Post where
it would get maximum visability?

Is someone fearful to say, or to publish the facts, as presented by
Rosenblum, in print or online to a wide audience??

Moshe Burt


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Mayor Abutbol -- Say No to Extremism

by Jonathan Rosenblum
Jerusalem Post
September 9, 2011

http://www.jewishmediaresources.com/1481/mayor-abutbol-say-no-to-extremism


In September 1998, a two-room school opened up in Tzoran, a residential
community of 1,500 young families, nestled among the agricultural
settlements east of Netanya, for 25 six and seven-year-olds. When they
arrived at school that first day, the young children were confronted by a
chanting mob of 60 adults, some of whom had tied attack dogs to the school
gates. Despite the heat, the principal had no choice but to close the
windows, as curses and stones rained down on the school.

The same scene was repeated every morning for the first months of the
schools existence, and the school was defaced and repeatedly vandalized over
the course of the year. The purpose of the demonstrators was to terrorize
little children by forcing them to run a daily gauntlet of verbal abuse and
physical menace.

The confrontation in Tzoran was not widely reported in the Israeli press,
certainly not compared to the efforts by a group of religious extremists to
prevent the opening of a national religious girls in Beit Shemesh last week,
on a plot long designated for the school and lying adjacent to both haredi
and national religious neighborhoods.

But Tzoran has a lot to do with why I am so strongly opposed to the
vandalism, taunts, and threats used to prevent the national religious girls
school in Beit Shemesh from opening. The small school in Tzoran, you see,
was haredi-run, and I wrote in these pages at the time strongly condemning
the demonstrators in Tzoran.

Mutual respect for the rights of others is the necessary basis for any
democratic society. Mutuality is not just a basic moral intuition; it is a
fundamental principle of the Torah. Hillel taught: That which is hateful to
you do not do to others. One cannot with consistency condemn the
demonstrators in Tzoran and turn a blind eye to the extremists in Beit
Shemesh.

BUT I HAVE AN even more fundamental objection to the extremists: They
distort the Torah and make it something ugly. They would exercise a
territorial imperative ? we establish the rules wherever we live and
adjacent thereto ? that is more in tune with Islam. Islam is a religion of
conquest, which divides the world into territory conquered by Islam (dar
al-Islam), in which Sharia, Islamic law, must be imposed, and territory not
yet conquered.

Judaism, by contrast, was never a religion of conquest outside of Eretz
Yisrael, and Jews have never viewed territorial conquest as the primary sign
of Divine favor. More fundamentally, Jewish law recognizes the legitimacy of
parallel legal systems, as expressed in the famous Talmud statement "dina
malchusa dina ? the civil law of the country is the law."

Last week, I found myself davening Mincha in Kiryat Sanz in Netanya, prior
to spending a few hours at the separate beach across the road. Kiryat Sanz
is a largely self-contained neighborhood of Klausenberger Chassidim, though
the late Klausenberger Rebbe insisted from the beginning that there be a
Sephardi community within Kiryat Sanz. Laniado Hospital, which the Rebbe
built, lies at the edge of the neighborhood.

While in Kiryat Sanz, I noticed one or two women in decidedly non-Chassidic
dress walking through the neighborhood. No one paid them any attention. Just
to make sure that my powers of observation are not waning, I called a doctor
friend who lives in the neighborhood, and he told me a story of rabbi who
once spent his summer vacation in Kiryat Sanz. After a week, he complained
to the Klausenberger Rebbe, of blessed memory, that he was shocked by the
presence of immodestly dressed women in Kiryat Sanz. The Rebbe replied,
"That's amazing. I've been here over ten years, and I never saw anything
like that."

My friend then told me another story that captures the ahavas Yisrael that
the Rebbe made the animating value of his community, along with devotion to
Torah study. Once the Rebbe heard that some Chassidim had shouted,
"Shabbes," at seaside bathers. He ordered them to cease and desist forever.
"Nobody ever came closer to Torah because someone shouted at them," he said.
"Open your windows and sing Shabbos zemiros at the top of your lungs. That
might have a positive effect."

How do I know that the relations between Kiryat Sanz and secular residents
of Netanya are normative Torah behavior, and threats by a group of newly
arrived, self-proclaimed "zealots" in Beit Shemesh to their national
religious neighbors that they better remove their TVs or else are not?
Because the Klausenberger Rebbe was a universally recognized giant of Torah
scholarship, while the "zealots" listen to no rabbinic authority. Rabbi
Aharon Feldman, today the Rosh Yeshiva of Ner Israel in Baltimore, once told
me how thirty years ago he and a group of some of Jerusalem's most
distinguished younger talmidei chachamim tried to convince a group of kids
throwing stones on the Ramot Road on Shabbos to stop. The kids just laughed
at them.

And my conclusion is confirmed by the dozens of places around Israel, where
haredim live harmoniously with secular neighbors ? in mixed cities like
Petah Tikva, in Jerusalem's Givat Zev neighborhood, with a large group of
Stoliner Chassidim, or Arad, with its large population of Gerrer Chassidim.
Unfortunately, harmony never garners media attention, perhaps because it
does not further anti-haredi propaganda.

JEWS, UNLIKE MOSLEMS, have a millennia-long history of living as a despised
minority. Minority status has also imbued us with an appreciation of
prudence. Satmar Chassidim in Williamsburg, for instance, do not post dress
code advisories in the elevators of buildings they share with Puerto Ricans.

Despite its rapid growth ? or perhaps because of it ? the haredi population
in Israel today is a highly vulnerable. Secular Israelis fear haredi
domination, just as many of those of native European stock fear the loss of
their cultural patrimony to rapidly growing Muslim populations. And fear
triggers backlashes.

That has certainly happened in Europe in response to the growing number of
Muslim neighborhoods that are "no-go" zones for the police, the assaults on
European women who do not conform to Muslim dress codes, and the retention
of Islamic customs, like honor killings, even when they contravene the
criminal law. The leaders of Germany, France and Britain have all declared
multi-culturalism a failure. Anti-immigrations parties are ascendant, and a
number of countries have enacted restrictions on Muslim dress. Some
observers warn that the blood of native European and Muslim immigrant
combatants will flow in Europe's streets.

Haredim in Israel cannot afford such a backlash. And nothing will do more to
trigger one than assertions of territorial sovereignty by those who,
ironically, profess to believe that we are still living in Galus (Exile).
Contrary to what the protestors on Rothschild Street may think, for
instance, the haredi community suffers from a critical housing shortage.
Haredim will have to move to many mostly secular cities (which I view as
largely positive development for many reasons). But many mayors have
actively fought to prevent haredim from moving in to their cities, in part
motivated by fears that once haredim become a critical mass they will demand
that streets be closed on Shabbos and the like.

EVEN THE DANGER THEY represent to the larger haredi public is not, however,
the greatest threat posed by the "zealots." I spoke last week to one of the
veteran leaders of the Eidah Hachareidis and a resident of Meah Shearim for
more than seventy years, Rabbi Shlomo Pappenheim. This outspoken opponent of
violence, was one of the prime movers behind the move of hundreds of
families from Meah Shearim to Beit Shemesh, among them the "zealots." "I
envisioned them teaching Torah to their neighbors," Rabbi Pappenheim told
me.

In the course of the conversation, he shared the view of his teacher Rabbi
Tzvi Yosef Dushinsky, the late chief rabbi of the Eidah, that the coming of
the Messiah only requires some spiritual arousal from below, not that every
Jew first become Torah observant. The latter is G-d's business, not ours,
and will only happen after Messiah's arrival, Rabbi Dushinsky taught.

Anyone who makes the Torah ugly in the eyes of the broader public, Rabbi
Pappenheim explained, is therefore doing nothing less than blocking the
Redemptive process itself.

I DON'T EXPECT the "zealots" to be convinced by anything I write: They don't
listen to Rabbi Elyashiv, why would they listen to me? But I do expect the
haredi mayor of Beit Shemesh to take a strong stand that violence will not
be allowed to establish facts on the grounds and that all citizens of Beit
Shemesh will be treated fairly and equally. Doing so, will constitute a
powerful statement that the haredi public understands the requirement of
mutual respect and tolerance in a diverse society, and allow us to maintain
the moral upper hand when we demand fair treatment in places like Tzoran.


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