[RBS] where it all starts, and where it can end

[barr_maor]

I do not see any problem with the posting of Phil and Chanie Rosenfelder.  I am thankful it was posted. They presented an enormously valuable and rational perspective and called for achdut.  They did not violate the posting rules.  Further, I prefer to see such comments than advertisements by vendors and brokers, which are also personal and also business.

Furthermore, it is YOUR opinion that there is chilul hashem on both sides.  I have not yet seen anyone else spitting on little girls, throwing stones at police and burning dumpsters.

--- In rbsA at yahoogroups.com, Susan Reuben <s.r.reuben at ...> wrote:
>
> up until now there have been no personal articles written regarding the 
> chillul HaShem - on both sides - that is taking place in our community.  I 
> don't understand why this letter was accepted by the moderators, the list is 
> not a forum for giving personal opinions or speaking lashan hara.  Please 
> can the moderators make sure they this does not become a thread now for 
> taking sides on this issue.
> 
> Shabbat Shalom
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil'n'Chanie Rosenfelder" <philnchanie at ...>
> To: "BS_List" <list at ...>; "rbs lists - huji" <rbs at ...>; 
> "Rbs2" <RBS at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:23 AM
> Subject: [RBS] where it all starts, and where it can end
> 
> 
> first of all, i want to publicly thank Yehuda Meshi Zahav for his
> article in Hashavua B'Veit Shemesh
> 
> second, for those who wonder how it can be that there is violence
> against beit Sefer Orot -  after all , Hareidim are not hateful
> people..
> 
> BUT when they build a wall around the gan building, to shield their
> children fromthe neighbouring gan, they are teachign the next
> generation that "other Jews" are to be avoided at all costs, and even
> when we, hareidm, move into a populated neighbourhood, we must shut
> our neighbours out (or stand outside their schools saying tehillim
> that they should leave)
> 
> I am deeply sorry to be writing this, but i think that we have to be
> able to take a stand, to demand that the wall be taken down,
> we must remember that Hareidim who move to a city which is not all
> hareidi (or that matter, to a country in which they benefit from
> services provided by non-hareidim) have chosen to be part of a world
> in which there are other Jews, and other people, and those people are
> NOT a plague tobe avoided, BUT RATHER they are neighbours, relatives,
> soldiers and firefighters to be appreciated and respected (and even
> loved , at least Gd seems to think so)!!!
> 
> Please, if you believe in HaShem, His Nation and His Torah, stand up
> for Ahdut .  Tear down the walls!!
> 
> 
> 
> It is my tefilla that the lists will not censor this email, and in
> that way again prevent people from hearing other people's feelings and
> needs
> 
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