[RBS] i propose a humra

[Phil'n'Chanie Rosenfelder]

clarification: by public property, i meant trees in the parks etc.
it is just as assur to help ourselves to those trees as to the shoppign
buggies as to money in our neighbour's drawer.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Debby Stern <sterndg at netvision.net.il>wrote:

> **
> Shopping carts aren't public property anyway.
>
> On 5/7/2012 1:09 PM, Phil'n'Chanie Rosenfelder wrote:
>
> it is interesting how people will spend an extra 100 sheqel on their
> weekly shopping for "better " hechsherim, but not 20 sheq for a mishloah,
> and instead use the shopping carts
>
>  i find it very sad the lack of understanding of the issurim of nezek and
> theft of public property.  public property is NOT "partly mine, so i can do
> with it as i please".  and i am more disturbed by the silence of the
> teachers and rabbis on the subject
>
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Seth & Naomi Abrahams <
> famabra at netvision.net.il> wrote:
>
>> This is not humra, this is halacha. Every shopping cart costs
>> approximately
>> NIS 3000 to replace.
>>
>> In addition, any adult using a shopping cart to take purchases home should
>> be scrupulous about returning it promptly and not leave it abandoned in
>> the
>> street, parking lots of buildings, in entrances to buildings, etc.
>>
>> If it is too much trouble to return, either buy your own shopping cart or
>> have your shopping delivered
>>
>> Naomi Abrahams
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rbs-bounces at cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:rbs-bounces at cs.huji.ac.il] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Phil'n'Chanie Rosenfelder
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:52 PM
>> To: rbs lists - huji; Rbs2; BS_List
>> Subject: [RBS] i propose a humra
>>
>> i would like to propose that we, the residents of beit shemesh, choose
>> to be mahmir in the following mitzvot (among others )
>> hinuch yeladim
>> mi'dvar sheker tirhak
>> issur gezel
>> issur nezek
>> hashavat aveida
>> hashavatt gezeila
>>
>> BY taking it upon ourselves to educate our children
>> to either NOT TOUCH shopping carts that they see "wandering around"
>> OR RETURN THEM to the shops
>>
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