OT: Bezeqint made me "poof... he's gone"

OT: Bezeqint made me "poof... he's gone"

Shlomi Fish shlomif at iglu.org.il
Sun Jun 21 12:04:33 IDT 2009


On Thursday 18 June 2009 18:46:37 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > I see. Well, in one case, it wasn't possible, because my account at the
> > Technion's undergraduate students server got terminated without a
> > redirect being set up after I graduated from the Technion.
>
> That's basa. Did you ask one of the Danys from Taub to reinstate the
> site for a a year?
>

No, I didn't. I could try.

> > In one case, I set up a
> > redirect from http://perl-begin.berlios.de/ (which is still there) to
> > http://perl-begin.org/ and still lost a lot of page rank (or at least it
> > seemed to have been the case).
>
> Google makes it's decision based on a lot of things, but in a general
> sense a 301 redirect is accepted as the safe way to move a domain.
>

OK.

> >> > Yes, and I don't want bots to find anything on sf.org except for a
> >> > link to www.shlomifish.org. As far as I'm concerned sf.org should not
> >> > exist.
> >>
> >> Why not? What if I want to download your site to read offline on the
> >> train?
> >
> > If you try to download sf.org without following links to other hostnames,
> > you'll get only one page, which should raise your suspicions. (You are
> > testing the web-sites you download, right?). If you download
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/ , you should get the whole enchilada. This is
> > also the case for following links from sf.org to www.shlomifish.org.
>
> I personally don't download sites to read, but I tried to present a
> valid use case.
>

Well, in that case, people can use a mirroring tool on 
http://www.shlomifish.org/ just fine. Everything they want is under there. If 
they point it at sf.org, they'll either get a single page, or alternatively 
follow the link to http://www.shlomifish.org/ which is what I want to happen. 
Either way, it is handled properly.

> >> What if some new search engine wants to rank you?
> >
> > He shouldn't rank sf.org. It only has a link to www.shlomifish.org and
> > most links I know point to www.sf.org.
>
> I mentioned that because it appeared to me that you implied that the
> reason for your decision is to prevent bots from crawling the site.
>

So?

> >> And what
> >> about the real malicious bots, that fake the IE UA anyway?
> >
> > What about them?
>
> The point being that your approach does nothing to stop malicious bots.
>

So what do I care about those malicious bots? There's nothing of relevance on 
sf.org . They can go to every page they want there, and they won't find 
anything.

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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