I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help

I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help

Micha Feigin michf at post.tau.ac.il
Wed Mar 25 09:13:44 IST 2009


On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:33:21 +0000 (GMT)
Moshe Brace using Yahoo <mbrace700 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I read with great interest the plea  for help to remain in Linux instead of
>  returning to Windows. One of the major concerns I have on this issue is the
> use of programmes like Wine and other emulators. If using these programmes I
> feel in some way that it is a form of cheating on oneself. Are we in Linux or

But sometimes there is no choice, and things like picasa even do it behind your
back

> are we in Windows? When do we actually cross the line? Even with all the
> tweaking that I may have to do to get a stubborn programme to work with
> Linux, I like using it and feel comfortable using it. Regarding Office
> programmes, yes there are more options in the Microsoft Office version, but
> as a person who has learnt Technical Writing, I would say that most people do
> not use even half of these options; they can easily get away with using Open
> Office. Likewise with other programmes that may need some tweaking. Sometimes

I would, but some simple things are prohibitvely difficult with open office.
The main two for me

1. Changing the headers in the middle of the document (what you would do in
office by inserting a section break I believe it's called and unlinking the
headers). Couldn't find any documentation describing it

2. keeping rtl languages (hebrew in this case) consistently rtl. Alignment
keeps getting messed up.

To my diffence though in this case, I only wrote about two documents in the
last several years in openoffice/office as I use lyx/latex almost exclusively

> I have to use work arounds to get the job done - don't think that this  isn't
> the case with Windows either. If someone is happy with Linux then it's for
> him. Moshe --- On Wed, 25/3/09, Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 

There are still a few programs missing, I don't count office among them though.
It's weak side is media editing software (photo and video) My top on the list are

1. adobe lightroom (there are a ton of viewers but I couldn't find a descent
picture management system with a good viewer). I'd love to hear of a
replacement that tags images and not only the database (so I can access images
on an external drive from two computers), and works on both linux and windows
(I would even settle for something that works only on linux).

2. adobe photoshop, and no, gimp is not up to par with photoshop for
professional or even hobbyist photo editing for printing. AFAIK no support yet
for 16bit color, color profiles beyond rgb and proper color management

3. monitor profiler - lprof doesn't seem to do anything and the one other
(forgot it's name) is hardware profiler only (needs external hardware)

4. proper nonlinear video editor - such as premier, final cut or avid. What
linux has now is toys even more than gimp

On the upside in the mathematical programing department, linux is more than
covered head to toe, more than any other system out there I believe.

emacs is finally getting intelisense support which is the ONLY good thing with
visual studio, although it still needs some work. I need to relearn etags and
cbrowser I guess.

> From: Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
> To: "Dan Shimshoni" <danshimsh at gmail.com>
> Cc: "linux-il" <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> Date: Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 12:29 AM
> 
> Have you looked at Inkscape? It's a rather incredible vector drawing program.
> I found it pretty easy to pick up, and I have no drawing program experience.
> You have great control over every single parameter, and there is a great
> online tutorial.
> 
> Dan Shimshoni wrote:
> > Hello,
> >   Please help me to stay with Linux and not
> > go back to Windows...
> > I had stopped using windows about two years ago;
> > though I have a dual boot , I almost did not
> > boot into windows in the recent two years.
> > I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything
> > that I had in Windows I could get in Linux.
> > But:
> > now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried
> > with the "dia" tool. I created a diagram and
> > converted it to png. The result is reasonable.
> > However,...
> > I need to draw some arrows in an angle and
> > I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that
> > the text should not be
> > vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45).
> > And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia.
> > 
> > Does any one know a tool with which it can be done?
> > 
> > To be more specific, what I need to do as something
> > like what is depicted here (and can be done with
> > visio):
> > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425&seqNum=21
> > 
> > please look at figure 3.44
> > 
> > I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and
> > not under some virtual machine
> > emulating windows and not under wine.
> > 
> > Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux.
> > 
> > I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be
> > in *.png.
> > 
> > Rgs,
> > DanS
> > 
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