xfone 018 phone service and Linux

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--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Arie Skliarouk <skliarie at gmail.com> wrote:

> Eventually I did not went with 018, as they have the
> ugliest support I ever seen - they don't reply on
> emails. I asked twice from them to send oraat keva blank,
> and got nothing.
> The broken "שלך" button on "צור
> קשר" page (under firefox) did not help either:
> 
> 
> http://www.018.co.il/contactus.asp
> 

I would say that is a general trend in Israel. I have more examples. Either no email address is published, or that you can't make a progress solely by email.

> Now I am looking in direction of 012 and have couple of
> questions to actual users of theirs voip service with Linux
> (if there are any):
> 
> http://www.012.net.il/sales.aspx?docID=8639&FolderID=1005&lang=he&tabn=0
> Does the line management site (http://072web.net) works from
> firefox?
> 

The interface has 2 parts: one that control the more static settings, and the other control the more RT ones. Not sure about the former. The later doesn't. Note the static and RT are from an ordinary user perspective. 

> Do they provide SIP credentials, or are these hidden in
> the hw sip adapter they provide?

Even though I don't know what SIP credentials are, I am pretty sure they are hidden.

> Can Asterisk be used with the service?

Probably not, unless you are looking to connect Asterisk in the same way that you would connect it to a Bezeq line.

> Thank you in advance!
> 

Rumor is that 074 now offers 3 months, no commitment, free ISP + land phone services.

> --
> Arie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 03:01,
> e2xbegqsdyt21hfc <e2xbegqsdyt21hfc at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know the technical details or 018.
> 
> I do know that 012 provides you with a sip adapter that is
> plugged between  the bezeq/hot modem and your PC/ordinary
> phone. It could be that that adapter reserve some BW for the
> sip packets. In any case, my experience is that both 750K
> ADSl/cables is sufficient for a good quality phone service,
> with a lightly usage for internet and phone. The sip adapter
> I initially had was made in the US. I assume they use a US
> proven technology. My current sip adapter is made by
> AudioCodes. 012 claims that the sip adapter they provide
> should work with any ISP. I had two ISPs, and in my case
> their claim is justified.
> 
> 
> 
> There is also a rumor that bezeq's new generation
> network uses sip over copper for the phone services.
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Arie Skliarouk <skliarie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Arie Skliarouk <skliarie at gmail.com>
> 
> > Subject: Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux
> 
> > To: "linux-il" <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> 
> > Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 11:21 PM
> 
> > Hi,
> 
> >
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 13:54, Gilad Ben-Yossef
> 
> > <gilad at codefidence.com>wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > >  Arie Skliarouk wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > > How do they solve the latency problems inherent
> to any
> 
> > internet connection?
> 
> > >
> 
> > > The round trip time to a well connected (read:
> 0%
> 
> > packet loss) server in
> 
> > > Israel from an Israeli ISP, where Israel here is
> 
> > defined as "connected to
> 
> > > the IIX", is under 50ms.
> 
> > >
> 
> >
> 
> > On a 150kbit upload ADSL upload of a 1500 bytes
> packet
> 
> > takes about 85ms. To
> 
> > send out the VoIP packet would take another 85ms (on
> 
> > condition that you have
> 
> > a really good QoS). This causes latency of 85-170ms
> with
> 
> > jitter 85ms. The
> 
> > VoIP speech (SIP protocol) has a lot of skips and is
> 
> > unacceptable.
> 
> >
> 
> > Theory aside, I would like to hear first-hand
> experiences
> 
> > of people with 018
> 
> > before I commit for a year of phone service with
> them.
> 
> >
> 
> > --
> 
> > Arie
> 
> >
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