XMoveWindow()

[Nadav Har'El]

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010, Erez D wrote about "Re: XMoveWindow()":
> > when i move the window to pos(x,y) using XMoveWindow(), it moves but
> > positions the WM's window (e.g. the titlebar topleft)  at (x,y) instead of
> > my window.

What you're doing is the right thing. XMoveWindow() doesn't actually do
anything, it just sends a ConfigureRequest event to the parent, namely the
window manager, which actually does the move, but this is how it's supposed
to be.

Can you explain why what you're seeing is a bad thing? E.g., when a user does
"xterm -geometry +0+0", he usually would like the new window *including*
whatever titlebar it has to start on the top-left corner. I don't see any
reason why the coordinates you give should not include the titlebar...

> I care about the position and size of the client area, not the gross window.
> Now it depends on which wm i use, or if i use one at all.

Who is "I" here? An ordinary user doesn't even know that there is "the client
area" and the "gross winodw" - all he sees is one square and wants to control
its location; If he chooses location +0+0 (top-left corner), he probably wants
the top-left of the titlebar to be there, not the "client area" (which would
mean that the titlebar would be outside the visible area of the screen).

If "I" is some computer program who wants to play tricks with window locations,
then please don't. Window location is for the user to control, not automatic
programs. I *HATE* it when programs thinks they know me and automatically
start in, say, the bottom left corner of the screen. This could be an
option (traditionally, -geometry) but should not be automatic - if anybody
should automate the window placement it should be the window manager, not
individual applications.


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