Fedora - o for thirteen

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Hi Nadav,
Few months ago I upgraded my EEE to Fedora 12 from Fedora 11 and I used the
preupgrade. It worked like a charm without any issues.

IIRC, the problems that you describe are coming from external repositories
which are not always up to date (for example: rpmfusion takes few days until
it's updated with all the external RPM modules. I had the "pleasure" of
upgrading kernel and finding myself out of luck with my wifi card since the
RPM for my wifi was not updated to the latest kernel from Fedora).

So, my suggestion would be to disable external RPMS, do a full update prior
running preupgrade, and only then do the upgrade.

Hetz


2010/5/26 Nadav Har'El <nyh at math.technion.ac.il>

> I've been a happy Redhat and then Fedora user for more than a decade, and
> naturally yesterday, when Fedora 13 came out, I upgraded to it.
>
> I am using the "preupgrade" tool. For those who've been living under a
> rock,
> "preupgrade" is the best way to upgrade Fedora if you have an Internet
> connection. It first downloads all the packages you need over the Internet,
> something which might take hours but you don't care because the system is
> still up and running. Then, when everything is on your machine, it asks you
> to reboot, when the packages are actually actually installed. Only then is
> your machine down, and in my experience, this is usally around one hour
> (which is much less than what upgrades used to take just a couple of years
> ago).
>
> Anyway, the theory is good, but the practice - not as good. If I remember
> correctly, *each* time I upgraded fedora, 13 out of 13 times, the upgrade
> failed in some way. In at least half the cases, the package installation
> process crashed leaving the installation incomplete or full of duplicate
> packages (this is what happened to me yesterday). In other cases the
> installation completed, but the kernel, X, or other things did not come up
> correctly. In some cases important things stopped working because some
> packages were forgotten to be installed, or installed and not initialized
> correctly, or other things like that.
>
> With my experience, I have always been able to fix whatever Fedora botched
> up ("package-cleanup -cleandupes" was especially useful yesterday, and so
> was an old kernel I had lying around), but a person with less linux
> knowledge
> would have been completely baffled by each of those upgrade failures. It at
> least half the upgrades, the system would be completely unusable
> afterwards!
>
> So I'm wondering - is this only my experience? Are other Fedora users
> enjoying smooth upgrades, or sharing my frustrating experience?
> If this is not just my own problems (how could they be?), should we
> recommend
> to newbies never to try upgrading Fedora without expert help? Or should we
> recommend newbies to avoid Fedora completely? I really hope the answer to
> the last question is no, because I really love Fedora.
>
> Nadav.
>
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