Amazon EC2 hosting,
Maxim Veksler
maxim at vekslers.org
Sun Oct 17 11:30:55 IST 2010
Thanks for the tip.
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Etzion Bar-Noy <ezaton at tournament.org.il>wrote:
> A small note. I was led to understand (from a fried who uses EC2
> and aggressively) that xlarge instances are (usually? Always? I think the
> later) alone on physical hardware. So you would prefer to use xlarge
> instance to prevent slowdowns.
>
> Ez
>
> 2010/10/10 Maxim Veksler <maxim at vekslers.org>
>
>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <
>> ladypine at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/10/10 Ori Idan <ori at helicontech.co.il>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/10/10 Tom Rosenfeld <trosenfeld at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I just came across this thread from back in Aug about Amazon's cloud.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to add that I have been a satisfied customer of Amazon for
>>>>> over a year, using their services for both consulting at at my current job
>>>>> where we use it to run our SaaS offering. The capabilities keep improving
>>>>> and the prices keep coming down. Their lowest end server is now just 2 cents
>>>>> an hour!
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some issues with the IO, but it is certainly adequate for all
>>>>> but high performance needs. We use 8 way stripped disks and get about 100
>>>>> MBp/s sequential reads.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone wants more details, I'll be happy to share with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I am considering using EC2 for a web application.
>>>> I am not sure how to calculate the payment per month.
>>>> Do I pay only for the time someone makes a request?
>>>> For example, I have a user who requests a certain report and it takes 1
>>>> second to load the report request form, then 20 seconds to produce the
>>>> report and print it.
>>>> I understand that I pay for 21 seconds?
>>>>
>>>
>>> In addition to mistakes already corrected, there is another mistake of
>>> how long something takes. Amazon aim to provide a certain computation power
>>> unit, but benchmarks show that what is actually provided has high
>>> variability. For example, ping times to EC2 machines started rising
>>> significantly since Amazon announces the spot instances. See also:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Some more input on EC2.
>>
>> Not all instances born alike. We recently ran a huge computation based on
>> Hadoop and you can definitely see that some nodes perform faster (I/O was
>> the bottleneck) then others.
>>
>> I too, when starting with EC2 made the mistake to of thinking that you
>> only pay for as much "CPU" as you use. Wrong!
>>
>> OTOH, I was very happy to find out that with Google AppEngine this is
>> actually the case: You pay for as much resources as you consume. And they DO
>> count "CPU Time" vs. Amazon's "instance is running time".
>>
>> Another note regarding EC2. Read bitbucket story about ec2 horrors
>> http://blog.bitbucket.org/.
>> Yet please don't get me wrong, generally EC2, S3, CloudFront, ELB and
>> other Amazon's services work great - Our production farm (~40 servers is
>> hosted there and we are relatively happy).
>>
>> Amazon's main issues are:
>> I/O bandwidth is funny
>> Occasionally peaks in connectivity time that lead to timeouts (between
>> zones & from the outside world).
>> Not so fair hypervisor: We've seen occasions when an instance "slows down"
>> for a couple of minutes. We assume (without being able to tell for sure)
>> that some bigger instance type that happen to be hosted on the same physical
>> server as we are got resource hungry and practically ate all our CPU time...
>>
>>
>> Maxim.
>>
>>
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