Does anyone know whether the following can be trusted?

Does anyone know whether the following can be trusted?

Omer Zak w1 at zak.co.il
Mon Sep 20 07:20:54 IST 2010


On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 07:09 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010, Omer Zak wrote about "Does anyone know whether the following can be trusted?":
> > There is an exploit of 64-bit Linux kernel, which leaves behind a
> > backdoor usable even after the kernel has been patched.
> > 
> > To check whether your PC is infected, the diagnose-2010-3081 tool can be
> > used (see https://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/cve-2010-3081.ssi.xhtml for
> > links to binary and to source).
> 
> Can you please point us to the source of these statements?

Start with:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/20/0217204/Linux-Kernel-Exploit-Busily-Rooting-64-Bit-Machines
and the link which provides the diagnostic code is:
https://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/cve-2010-3081.ssi.xhtml

> Often, the issue of *vulnerability* and *backdoor* are orthogonal.
> I.e., Once a vulnerability is known (in this case, an old 32-bit-compatibility
> bug which somehow resurfaced recentl), someone might break into your machine
> (or in this case, he would have to break-in first as any user, and this
> vulnerability will give him root access). *Then*, he can install whatever
> kind of backdoor, zombie, rootkit, or whatever he wants on your system.
> 
> There is no way to "diagnose" whether your PC was ever broken into using
> a specific vulnerability - the only thing you can do is to look for a
> specific backdoor or rootkit or whatever installed. But someone might have
> used the same vulnerability and installed a completely different backdoor!
> 
> So even if that tool tests for a specific backdoor installed by some
> specific demo "exploit", or one specific worm (and I don't know if it does),
> don't be surprised if numerous other crackers are using the same
> vulnerability together with completely different backdoors or rootkits.

You are right.
Thanks for the enlightenment.

--- Omer


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