Postgraduate studies

Postgraduate studies

guy keren choo at actcom.co.il
Thu Aug 4 11:44:22 IDT 2011


On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 12:13 +0300, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:15 AM, guy keren <choo at actcom.co.il> wrote:
>         
>         except for one thing: the number of "manot" that one will
>         actually get
>         is a big unknown - and this is not written anywhere clearly.
>         
> The standard is 5 for a full timer. One additional mana you can get
> from your advisor, and you can get upto 7 if you win a special prize.

so a new person should assume 5 "manot". and then again - i'm not sure
if this is the case in all faculties. it also changes from time to time,
as far as i know (i.e. during the previous high-tech recession - 2003 or
2004 or so) - i've heard of a person in a different faculty, who got
less then 5 "manot" in the beginning. i wonder what was the case in CS
at that time.


>         in addition, the ability to become a teaching assistant is not
>         clear in
>         advance - and this can have a noticeable effect too.
> 
> 
> In the Technion in CS, it is hard NOT to be a TA, if you are an
> internal student.

unless you registered very late - in which case sometimes all TA
positions could have been full for the first semester.

when people are making financial preparations - they should plan for the
worst case and make sure they'll be able to get by.

--guy



>         
>         On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 21:55 +0300, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
>         wrote:
>         >
>         > http://grad.technion.ac.il/heb/ ; Go to Melagot - Clali.
>         > This is getting a bit OT, IMHO, and a bit RTFM.
>         >
>         >
>         > Orna
>         >
>         > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Shahar Dag
>         <dag at cs.technion.ac.il>
>         > wrote:
>         >         Hi
>         >
>         >         If you are an internal student and a teaching
>         assistant, then
>         >         (at list at the Technion) you can get a scholarship
>         + some low
>         >         salary. I don't know what is the current amount
>         >
>         >         Shahar
>         >
>         >         ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Gelberg"
>         >         <antony.gelberg at gmail.com>
>         >
>         >         To: "Shahar Dag" <dag at cs.technion.ac.il>
>         >         Cc: "Linux-IL" <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>         >         Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:27 AM
>         >         Subject: Re: Postgraduate studies
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         Very interesting, thank you.  How many hours per
>         week did you
>         >         have to
>         >         devote to the MSc?  As for enjoying studies less, I
>         hear you
>         >         but I
>         >         think I would less-enjoy having no cash-flow to pay
>         the bills.
>         >
>         >         I have also been considering whether a second degree
>         in
>         >         management
>         >         e.g. MSc Management, or MBA may be more beneficial
>         career-wise
>         >         than
>         >         another geeky MSc.  :)
>         >
>         >
>         >         2011/7/31 Shahar Dag <dag at cs.technion.ac.il>:
>         >
>         >                 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony
>         Gelberg"
>         >                 <antony.gelberg at gmail.com>
>         >                 To: "Linux-IL" <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>         >                 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:53 PM
>         >                 Subject: OT: Postgraduate studies
>         >
>         >
>         >                         (I hope this isn't so off-topic as
>         to cause
>         >                         offence.)
>         >
>         >                         I'm an computer scientist and oleh
>         chadash ,
>         >                         just finished ulpan bet
>         >                         plus. 15 years experience in the
>         field, 1.5
>         >                         years in Israel, was CTO
>         >                         of a startup last year, this year
>         I've been
>         >                         mostly studying Hebrew.
>         >
>         >                         So now it's time to polish off my CV
>         and
>         >                         further my career. I've been
>         >                         browsing the main Israeli high-tech
>         websites
>         >                         today, as an example I
>         >                         was just looking at the IBM Research
>         Labs -
>         >                         very interesting indeed.
>         >                         However most positions seem to
>         require an MSc.
>         >                         There is a definite
>         >                         cultural difference between here and
>         the UK in
>         >                         terms of second degrees
>         >                         - I don't have one. I'm 34 and don't
>         want to
>         >                         hang about forever, but
>         >                         at the same time I might consider
>         postgraduate
>         >                         studies if they were
>         >                         really useful career-wise.
>         Naturally, it's
>         >                         also too late in the year
>         >                         to apply for the upcoming academic
>         year...
>         >
>         >                         I'd be interested to hear any
>         thoughts from
>         >                         the list on whether it
>         >                         would be a Good Idea to consider an
>         MSc at
>         >                         this point, or whether I
>         >                         should settle for a role where
>         "just" a BSc is
>         >                         required, and see if I
>         >                         can work with future employer to
>         study whilst
>         >                         I work...
>         >
>         >                         Antony
>         >
>         >                 Hello Antony
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >                 I have a first degree in computer
>         engineering from the
>         >                 Technion (faculty:
>         >                 electrical eng.). After several years of
>         working as
>         >                 computer engineer, I
>         >                 also got an Msc. from the Technion. My Msc
>         is in
>         >                 artificial intelligence and
>         >                 I did it as external student again in
>         electrical eng.
>         >                 since (at the time)
>         >                 they were more liberal regarding external
>         students.
>         >                 The only difference from
>         >                 learning in computer science is that I had
>         to take an
>         >                 advanced course in
>         >                 mathematics. Learning in parallel to full
>         time job is
>         >                 not easy, but I think
>         >                 that the main disadvantage is that you don't
>         have time
>         >                 to enjoy your study.
>         >                 You do only the bare minimum and you don't
>         have time
>         >                 for extra courses,
>         >                 seminars and special lectures.
>         >
>         >                 When I look back, I think that a
>         professional MSc. was
>         >                 a mistake (I never
>         >                 felt it helped me at work, but who knows), I
>         should
>         >                 instead do a second
>         >                 degree in management.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >                 I hope that I gave you some helpful hints
>         >
>         >                 Shahar
>         >
>         >
>         >
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>         > Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
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