next smartphone thoughts

[Erez D]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo <hetzbh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I read your email and I was quite amused how you gave "Free" to iOS. In
> what terms is it free? can you get the iOS code under *any* license? no. Can
> you modify it? no.
> On the Android side you're "yelling" it's not GNU. It isn't, but you can
> get gingerbread code (AOSP) without any issue.
>
sorry, i wrote closest - i ment 'most close' (oposite of open)

>
> No, you don't need to write your application in Java. You can write them in
> Perl, Shell, whatever, as long as you're installing the needed libraries. I
> have full Bash, Apache, OpenSSH (server & client), PHP and other stuff
> running just find on my Nook Color, and I'm sure you can do it too on Galaxy
> S2.
>
> As for preventing access from APK to parts of your device, I'm sure that
> there are applications which can help you limit the access. I haven't played
> with it before.
>
> So my recommendation: Take Galaxy S-2 (or the new LG which is faster then
> S2, don't remember it's name) and use it. Until you do, install Android SDK
> on your machine, and use the emulator to run Gingerbread, and play with it,
> install stuff on it, see how do you feel with the system.
>
> Good Luck,
> Hetz
>
> 2011/8/26 Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com>
>
>> It is time to get a new smartphone. so i have to choose one.
>>
>> Some history:
>> for a long time i wanted a GNU/Linux phone, and when the moco arrived, i
>> was happy.
>> While I was thinking of getting a moco, happy about the freedom but not
>> happy about it lagging technology-wise, there was a new better gnu/linux
>> phone - the Nokia N900
>> This was really good news, the biggest cellular manufacturer - nokia, is
>> thinking open source is the way.
>> So I got myself an N900, and was very happy with it. i compiled a kernel,
>> installed gnu/linux programs on it, and actually used it as a computer.
>> Then nokia abandoned the N900's OS - maemo (when the N900 was around 1
>> year on the market) , in favor of a new one, called Meego. that was sad for
>> the N900 users as it ment no more support for the N900.
>> But it was not that dire  for the open source people, as meego was
>> supposed to be another GNU/Linux open source os. it's like replacing debian
>> with redhat. That is not nice for maemo lovers/users, but it's not like
>> abandoning open source whatsoever.
>> But then nokia decided to abandon meego in favor of windows mobile... this
>> was a major shock.
>>
>> I thought a company like nokia has some unwritten obligation to it's
>> customers - not to abandon their products after such a short time,
>> especially if these products were only half baked to begin with (N900 came
>> with no mms, no videocall, calender not full baked) etc...) awaiting updates
>> to make it fully baked.
>> so i was wrong and felt abandoned twice ... (once for maemo for meego,
>> once for meego for wp7)
>>
>> now for my problem - i need to get a new smartphone (from work), and
>> wanted a gnu/linux one.
>> My options:
>> 1. iphone - not gnu/linux nor open. actually this is the closest as can be
>> in terms of free as speech.
>> 2. symbian - deprecated. should be open somtimes (i wouldn't get my hopes
>> up for nokia promises)
>> 3. webos - gnu/linux but deprecated
>> 4. maemo - gnu/linux but deprecated
>> 5. meego (N9) - though about it, but once bitten from nokia - twice shy.
>> nokia does not even say they expect to continue with meego
>> 6. android - live and kicking, actually the most popular. it is somehow
>> open, and linux kernel. not gnu though.
>>
>> So i have to choose one of these.
>> I thought about android (galaxy s2). but i do not like it that i need to
>> program only in java, and that when i install apps, even simple as "clock
>> widget" - they require full access to my addressbook, to my setting and to
>> the internet.
>> I would love to block it via other ways (selinux/apparmor/iptables
>> etc...).
>> I miss my linux apps. (can run in any way a gnu/linbux dist under chroot
>> ?) can i write non java apps and give to my friends ?
>>
>> what are your thoughts on the issue ?
>>
>> thanks,
>> erez.
>>
>>
>>
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