Disabling the Suhosin patch by default in Debian Wheezy (Debian Testing)

Disabling the Suhosin patch by default in Debian Wheezy (Debian Testing)

Amos Shapira amos.shapira at gmail.com
Sun Feb 26 22:02:00 IST 2012


I'm not on top of PHP ecosystem, but this article makes Suhosin for PHP
sound like what anti viruses are for windows - just fix the bloody core
instead of patching around its sub-par code quality.
On Feb 26, 2012 7:25 PM, "Omer Zak" <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:

> Very interesting and depressing article.
> The general problem is one of securing large software packages.
>
> On one hand, there are optional security patches for the Linux kernel.
> Some of them retain their independence for a while.  Others get merged
> into the stock kernel.
>
> On the other hand, I don't remember seeing similar problems with Perl or
> Python.  Somehow, they manage to incorporate all security fixes into the
> standard interpreters, so there is no need for patches like PHP's
> Suhosin.
>
> Why is there a difference among PHP, Linux kernel and Perl/Python
> handling of security vulnerabilities?
>
> P.S.:  One must remember that the Free Software/Open Source nature of
> all those projects allows people to at all develop and apply independent
> security patches - something whose absence is overwhelming in ecosystems
> like MS-Windows.
>
> --- Omer
>
>
> On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 04:07 +0200, Baruch Siach wrote:
> > Hi Omer,
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:21:38PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote:
> > > Today, when I upgraded my old PC, which is running Debian Testing
> > > (currently Debian Wheezy), I was informed of the following:
> > >
> > > php5 (5.3.9-4) unstable; urgency=low
> > >
> > >   * The Suhosin patch is now disabled in the default build.
> > >
> > >   If you want to re-enable it again for your installation, you can
> > >   set the option PHP5_SUHOSIN=yes in debian/rules and recompile PHP.
> > >
> > >  -- Ondřej Surý <ondrej at debian.org>  Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:39:36 +0100
> > >
> > > Does anyone know why did the packers decide to reverse the previous
> > > policy of installing PHP5 with the Suhosin patch by default?
> >
> > See http://lwn.net/Articles/479716/ for the full story.
> >
> > baruch
> >
>
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