[CORRECTION] Nvidia's LLVM-CUDA release is not open-source

[CORRECTION] Nvidia's LLVM-CUDA release is not open-source

Shlomi Fish shlomif at shlomifish.org
Wed Feb 29 20:10:13 IST 2012


Hi all,

here is the log of an IRC conversation on Freenode's #radeon channel (dedicated
to the Free-as-in-speech video-radeon driver for ATI cards) which clarifies
some claims given here -
http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/2011-December/008335.html

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Feb 28 20:09:02 <rindolf>	Hi all.
Feb 28 20:10:38 <rindolf>	Will there be any chance we would see OpenCL support in the video-radeon driver (not fglrx) now that Nvidia open-sourced the LLVM CUDA support and that the Nouveau people have implemented open-source OpenCL support in their open-source Nouveau driver?
Feb 28 20:11:58 <tstellar>	rindolf: It's being worked on now, latest code is here: cgit.freedesktop.org/~tstellar/mesa clover-r600-master
Feb 28 20:12:43 <rindolf>	http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~tstellar/mesa - URL which can be clicked.
Feb 28 20:27:22 <agd5f>	rindolf: also FWIW, nvidia didn't open source anything yet.  The CUDA stuff is not open source
Feb 28 20:28:54 <rindolf>	agd5f: I see.
Feb 28 20:29:43 <rindolf>	agd5f: so what was the big announcement about? Future intentions?
Feb 28 20:31:04 <agd5f>	phoronix said it was open source but it's not, probably to boost ad revenue
Feb 28 20:32:28 <glisse>	i think it's open source to restricted people right now ... which i have hard time to understand how
Feb 28 20:34:05 <rindolf>	glisse: you mean it is “source available” to restricted people right now - not “open-source”
Feb 28 20:34:07 <agd5f>	they are basically making the src available by request under unknown terms.  probably mostly targeting academics and certain other businesses that need the src
Feb 28 20:35:07 <glisse>	rindolf: i mean some people have access to source, why you could have access or not is unclear
Feb 28 20:35:15 <glisse>	you need to sign something with them i think
Feb 28 20:35:20 <glisse>	so it's not open source
Feb 28 20:35:20 <rindolf>	glisse: I see.
Feb 28 20:35:26 <rindolf>	glisse: yes.
Feb 28 20:35:29 <glisse>	or someone would have pushed it somewhere
Feb 28 20:37:19 <agd5f>	rindolf: the press release says nothing about source code: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/Major-New-NVIDIA-CUDA-Release-Makes-It-Faster-and-Easier-to-Accelerate-Scientific-Research-With-GPUs-757.aspx
Feb 28 20:38:01 <rindolf>	agd5f: OK.
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So in this case, the Greeks did not bear any gifts (though there is FOSS OpenCL-support from the nouveau people and an upcoming one for the FOSS video-radeon driver.).

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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