OT: Cellular banking

[Mord Behar]

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://xkcd.com/538/
>
> Get over it - this whole discussion is a waste of bits IMHO. Either you
> trust your bank and the controls put in place to make it comply or pay on
> failure, or you don't bank with them. The rest is as relevant as
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F
>
>
Now now, that's not fair.
I am not a crypto-nerd. I know that nobody cares about my secrets. But
people do care about banking information. Because identity theft is a real
thing and people do it for the money.
You're all right on one account:it's a question of trust.
I trust my computers, I trust my network.
I've never had an Android phone before so I don't know whether to trust the
platform or the 3/4G network (since I've never used that either).
So my question really boils down to: do YOU (plural) trust your Android
handset and cellular provider? Which provider do you trust? Which don't you
trust? (We may need to renegotiate cellular plans soon anyway...) What did
you do to your handset to make you trust it more?


>
> On 6 December 2013 10:10, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il> wrote:
>
>> 2013/12/6 Oleg Goldshmidt <pub at goldshmidt.org>:
>> > "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il> writes:
>> >
>> >> UMTS (3G/HSPA) has much stronger encryption which afaik has not yet
>> >> been cracked, I would expect newer generations (4G/LTE) to be even
>> >> more secure
>> >
>> > It is reportedly possible to jam the 3G/4G signal so that handsets will
>> > fall back to 2G...
>> It is also possible (and very advisable) to set your handset to
>> 3G-only mode, in which case it can't/won't failover to 2G, for talk it
>> will still fall back on 3G because talk over 4G still hasn't been
>> standardized (4G is aimed mainly at data, the assumption is that talk
>> will use some form of VOIP, possibly SIP).
>> (Then again all talk of 4G is still fairly moot in Israel since afaik
>> we only have a few small testing network so far, no real 4G coverage
>> yet just really fast 3G).
>>
>> Note that you will finish your battery faster when using 3G only since
>> 2G requires less power, though I assume in newer phones those
>> differences will be smaller due to more efficient chip/transceiver
>> designs.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eliyahu - אליהו
>> >
>> > --
>> > Oleg Goldshmidt | pub at goldshmidt.org
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