Mobile phone question

Mobile phone question

Amichai Rotman amichai at iglu.org.il
Mon Jul 29 15:25:03 IDT 2013


Why complicate things?

You can get a dirt cheep smartphone here in Israel and then go to any of
the netwrks and buy the SIM with the plan that suits you...

I wouldn't go into buying refurbished phone at all - to many things can go
wrong : a friend of mine bought a Samsung Galaxy S II at one of these
dealers here in Israel and the screen went dead after two months. Of
course, the dealer denied any warranty or liability and it turns out it was
a fake from Japan...

I'd buy a new phone, right from the official dealer.

I just bought my Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300) for 2400 NIS.

Amichai.


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <
geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/28/2013 12:29 AM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>
>  So I looked it up, jailbreaking is legal but if you hand the phone in
>> in it's jailborken state they will claim your warranty is void, if you
>> restore the phone to factory before handing it in you should be fine
>> (at least according to the people on the oh-so-trustable internets)
>>
>
> Jailbreaking is a minor issue. First of all, only a small portion of
> iPhone owners do it, most have no need nor clue as to why one would do it
> in the first place.
>
>
> Jailbreaking can be removed by resetting the phone back to the state you
> bought it, which can easily be done using iTunes and anyone who has enough
> tech savvy to jailbreak it in the first place knows how to do it.
>
> To keep this the least bit on topic, Android also has a "padded cell"
> which prevents you from installing software except from the Google store,
> but it can be turned off via a user settable option.
>
>
> The problem is removing SP (usually mislabeled SIM) locks. If a locked
> iPhone does not have its SP lock removed by Apple, it has been tampered
> with and will not be repaired.
>
> Service Providers that sell SP locked iPhones, unlock them through Apple.
>
> I have never seen an SP locked Android phone, although I am sure they
> exist, so I have no information about how one unlocks them.
>
>
>
>  Ehm... the iDen network is still up and still heavily used.
>>
>
> Ok, thanks, I thought it was dead.
>
>
>  But yeah I also heard rumors that they'd like to close it and move
>> everyone to 3G, I guess if they provide stable PTT services on those
>> networks and devices that are rugged like most iDen devices most
>> people won't mind.
>>
>
> There are several private (as in non government) trunked radio systems in
> Israel, eventually everyone using MIRS will either go to cell phones, or
> buy time on one of them. Keeping the MIRS network going for the few users
> they have today will become less and less worth the cost.
>
> Note that MIRS is the name of the system and service, iDen is a US
> vendor's name for their service to separate it from Motorola's MIRS service
> and other trunked services.
>
>
>
>
>  Pelephone didn't start with no customers, when the market was just
>> released I actually spoke to them to see if I wanted to move to them
>> but at the time their 3G network wasn't operational yet and I would
>> have had to buy a new (old) phone just to connect to them.
>>
>
> Pelephone has been mistreating customers since the first cellular service
> in Israel. They started out with AMPS, then NAMPS (which failed miserably
> in the rest of the world due to poor service in hilly/built up areas. They
> they moved to 800mHz CDMA, which was even worse in terms of crowded or
> hilly areas.
>
>
>
>
>  As far as I can find online Pelephone is still operating it's old
>> network (EV-DO/CDMA2000) but aren't accepting new customers with that
>> technology...
>>
>
> Geoff.
>
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson,  N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379
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