OT: Hybrid cars

[guy keren]

a few observations:

- forget about honda insight. it is not very fuel-efficient.

- the Prius can give you about the same gasoline consumption as a small 
manual car (such as the alto, the i10, etc.). this is true both in-town 
and out-of-town.

- one of the reasons that the Prius is much more efficient then petrol 
cars of comperable size - is that its fewl/electricity 
consumption/generation GUI encourages you to drive more efficiently. you 
will notice that most Prius owners don't drive very fast - much rarer 
then with drivers in other cars of comparable size.

now, to some numbers:

I live in haifa, and drive often up and down-hill. unlike jerusalem, 
where there are many long not-very-steep roads , in haifa drives are 
usually shorter, and steeper.

my mother, who drove almost only inside the city (haifa), got to a fuel 
consumption of ~15.5km/l. using the same car, i get to around 17.5km/l - 
because i drive more outside the city (on flater and faster roads).

when driving on the haifa-tel-aviv road, in various driving conditions 
(except when during a *very* slow jam where you hardly move) - going a 
little better then 20km/l is achieveable - unless i'm very late and 
drive too fast (and then it can go down to 15.5-16km/l).

regarding the hybrid toyota yaris - i've no idea, as i don't know anyone 
that owns this car.

if you consider buying a hybrid card - you'll do well to consider an 
older card (a 3-4 year old car) - it is more economical.

regarding the need to replace its batery - the price of the batery is 
not that expensive any more (as far as i know - less then 10K NIS - i 
heard figures between 6K and 14K - and it's hard to know who to believe 
- i can ask the car repair shop next time i go for the yearly 
treatment), and you will probably not need to replace it too early. in 
any event, the battery comes with an 8-year/150K-km guarantee from the 
manufacturer.

--guy


On 09/15/2013 02:42 PM, Mord Behar wrote:
> Hi
> I know that this is off-topic, but I really don't know who to ask.
> See, I need a large pool of Linux-like brains that live in Israel for this.
> I mean, people (like me) who track gas liters and kilometerage, wear and
> tear on the car, insurance and things like that.
>
> Does anybody have numbers and experience to show how economical it is to
> buy a hybrid car, and which one?
> At what point of city-driving and non-city-driving does it pay to buy a
> hybrid car? Gas is really expensive now, and probably just going to go
> up. But hybrid cars are expensive too and the shelf life of the battery
> is 5-10 years...
> And I suppose that the terrain matters as well. In Jerusalem the hybrid
> car will use more gasoline than in Tel Aviv.
> Thanks.
>
> P.S.
> Mods, if you remove this message I totally understand, but could you
> please point me somewhere else instead?
>
>
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