From shlomif at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 16:58:15 2014
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 16:58:15 +0200
Subject: Mageia Linux 4 is out.
Message-ID: <CANy4znWWY1O7Oi-G4manqkMN_37KnT3HnvLLDc=SYDkqoLn7Dw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

this is an announcement that Mageia Linux 4 was released today (1 February
2014):

*
http://blog.mageia.org/en/2014/02/01/new-year-new-resolutions-and-a-new-mageia-heres-mageia-4/

*
http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7144


This is both on schedule and just in time for FOSDEM.

I'm looking forward for the package repository to become open for uploads
again because I have many pending updates to do.

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish


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From eli at billauer.co.il  Sat Feb  1 19:12:51 2014
From: eli at billauer.co.il (Eli Billauer)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 19:12:51 +0200
Subject: [HAIFUX LECTURE] MediaWiki: The software behind Wikipedia -- Amir
 Elisha Aharoni
Message-ID: <52ED2B13.80603@billauer.co.il>

On Monday, February 3rd at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by Amir Elisha Aharoni:

    MediaWiki: The software behind Wikipedia

Abstract

MediaWiki is a Free software package for setting up a wiki site. It was originally developed to support Wikipedia, and now it is used by thousands of other sites. The lecture will show the general structure of the software on the level of user and on the level of the developer, it will demonstrate some of its unique features such as broad internationalization support and sophisticated JavaScript loading techniques, and will give the participants an opportunity to contribute to its development.

=================================================================

We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see:
http://www.haifux.org/where.html

Attendance is free, and you are all invited!

==================================================================
Future lectures:

17/02/14 PacketShader: a GPU-Accelerated Software Router: Shachar
          Raindel
03/03/14 Open Ethernet Initiative - using Linux as the foundation of
          a networking OS: Matty Kados
17/03/14Linux Containers and the Future Cloud: Rami Rosen


==================================================================

We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux might be interested in, please contact us at webmaster at haifux.org

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From amos.shapira at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 22:59:45 2014
From: amos.shapira at gmail.com (Amos Shapira)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 07:59:45 +1100
Subject: Any experience with cubox-i?
In-Reply-To: <CAHAFOD_bah+EwGk1zBCBUfN9m7NA9n3ygwng+QYiCg8tFiJBJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52D29DB7.4030700@gmail.com> <52D2D1F9.4050005@gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WUi0STxTV7mENruipJqQ6u2qEE4+nTo_j56_5+84qLncQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52D3D572.7030200@gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WWXGxWStBnhva6ebzo6D7AO9NfWvMDc1e0ONqnQ+bLa=g@mail.gmail.com>
 <52D57160.70707@gmail.com>
 <CAHAFOD_bah+EwGk1zBCBUfN9m7NA9n3ygwng+QYiCg8tFiJBJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF9n_WWX_1ONnNJ79NpkeF7eoGgM3tLv=Z08Ls5c+6nyHMcxQw@mail.gmail.com>

Just wanted to thank everyone for your opinions.

I also talked to a friend who owns an Apple TV and saw it in operation (the
one which can't be hacked, he uses DNS forwarding tricks to make it talk to
his storage. Don't ask - it's stuff that he accumulated over years) and he
also thinks that the Cubox looks good for my needs.

Cheers,

--Amos


On 15 January 2014 04:38, Udi Finkelstein <Linux-IL at udif.com> wrote:

> If you want to follow the state of Linux and XBMC on ARM, you can take a
> look at this thread:
> http://www.hometheater.co.il/vt168648.XBMC-on-Linux-for-Arm-Devices.html
>
> Udi
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, geoffrey mendelson <
> geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/13/2014 3:00 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The attraction I see in Cubox is the ability to run standard Linux on
>>> it. Isn't it better than android-only on some hardware from China?
>>>
>>>  The Cubox seems to be the same general hardware with less ports. What I
>> don't understand is why they are pushing the $100 unit, when for $30 more
>> you get twice the cores and twice the RAM.
>>
>> I don't know what the other units run, the one  I pointed to did not
>> officially support Linux, it does not mean it won't run on it.
>>
>> I was a victim of feature creep, I started out with a direct from China
>> Chromecast (without the brand name) and ended up with an Arm based PC.
>>
>> As for Android, what bothers me about it is that unless you root the
>> device you can't add device drivers (which may not be an issue to you, it
>> turns out not to be one to me), and the UI for some things sucks. If you
>> look back to the how to play videos link  I posted, it works, but my wife
>> would never use such a thing. A simple App which would list files on a file
>> server, where you could tap to play them, with all the setup hidden would
>> be right for her. I also have not found a player that can fast forward
>> within MP4 files. :-(
>>
>> Or in plain English, I would be a lot happier if XMBC worked on my
>> tablet, or someone copied the Apple TV player as an Android App.
>>
>> As far as running bit torrent, the thing that I have found that affects
>> download rates the most is latency. If you have a fast multicore X86 (or
>> X64) processor, a wired ethernet connection and a fast upload speed, you
>> get a lot faster downloads, even if your slower CPU is not heavily loaded.
>>
>>
>> Geoff.
>>
>> --
>> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
>> Jerusalem Israel.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dov.grobgeld at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 23:16:26 2014
From: dov.grobgeld at gmail.com (Dov Grobgeld)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:16:26 +0200
Subject: Any experience with cubox-i?
In-Reply-To: <CAF9n_WWX_1ONnNJ79NpkeF7eoGgM3tLv=Z08Ls5c+6nyHMcxQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52D29DB7.4030700@gmail.com> <52D2D1F9.4050005@gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WUi0STxTV7mENruipJqQ6u2qEE4+nTo_j56_5+84qLncQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52D3D572.7030200@gmail.com>
 <CAF9n_WWXGxWStBnhva6ebzo6D7AO9NfWvMDc1e0ONqnQ+bLa=g@mail.gmail.com>
 <52D57160.70707@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CA++fsGEqCaK0T_5-9TM3GpcEyNOM9nK2tVb3+VB_dOQ-NTZ+1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Please let us know your experience with it after you get it! I'm currently
using the a raspberry pi with XBian as a media box and I start to get tired
of both its slow speed and of the fact that the file system of the SD-card
gets corrupted once every other week.

Regards,
Dov


On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com>wrote:

> Just wanted to thank everyone for your opinions.
>
> I also talked to a friend who owns an Apple TV and saw it in operation
> (the one which can't be hacked, he uses DNS forwarding tricks to make it
> talk to his storage. Don't ask - it's stuff that he accumulated over years)
> and he also thinks that the Cubox looks good for my needs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --Amos
>
>
> On 15 January 2014 04:38, Udi Finkelstein <Linux-IL at udif.com> wrote:
>
>> If you want to follow the state of Linux and XBMC on ARM, you can take a
>> look at this thread:
>> http://www.hometheater.co.il/vt168648.XBMC-on-Linux-for-Arm-Devices.html
>>
>> Udi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, geoffrey mendelson <
>> geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/13/2014 3:00 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The attraction I see in Cubox is the ability to run standard Linux on
>>>> it. Isn't it better than android-only on some hardware from China?
>>>>
>>>>  The Cubox seems to be the same general hardware with less ports. What
>>> I don't understand is why they are pushing the $100 unit, when for $30 more
>>> you get twice the cores and twice the RAM.
>>>
>>> I don't know what the other units run, the one  I pointed to did not
>>> officially support Linux, it does not mean it won't run on it.
>>>
>>> I was a victim of feature creep, I started out with a direct from China
>>> Chromecast (without the brand name) and ended up with an Arm based PC.
>>>
>>> As for Android, what bothers me about it is that unless you root the
>>> device you can't add device drivers (which may not be an issue to you, it
>>> turns out not to be one to me), and the UI for some things sucks. If you
>>> look back to the how to play videos link  I posted, it works, but my wife
>>> would never use such a thing. A simple App which would list files on a file
>>> server, where you could tap to play them, with all the setup hidden would
>>> be right for her. I also have not found a player that can fast forward
>>> within MP4 files. :-(
>>>
>>> Or in plain English, I would be a lot happier if XMBC worked on my
>>> tablet, or someone copied the Apple TV player as an Android App.
>>>
>>> As far as running bit torrent, the thing that I have found that affects
>>> download rates the most is latency. If you have a fast multicore X86 (or
>>> X64) processor, a wired ethernet connection and a fast upload speed, you
>>> get a lot faster downloads, even if your slower CPU is not heavily loaded.
>>>
>>>
>>> Geoff.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
>>> Jerusalem Israel.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Linux-il mailing list
>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>
>
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From ladypine at gmail.com  Sun Feb  2 13:11:49 2014
From: ladypine at gmail.com (Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 13:11:49 +0200
Subject: [JOB OFFER] Android application
In-Reply-To: <CAA8-RXgSCJrp4CpHBnYEHryf9qdMZAeO4M7cB+sadzg-bQ2Lxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA8-RXgSCJrp4CpHBnYEHryf9qdMZAeO4M7cB+sadzg-bQ2Lxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA8-RXhMj2x6QwEmYH33tKBTxeGCra9bW11CA3dJ_sgZ6jxgXg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Linuxers,
My friend is looking for paid help with a high-school project on android.
Please see below.
Thanks
Orna


>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ron and Ela Schreier  wrote:
>
>> Hi Orna,
>>
>>
>>
>> I ask you to look for a student who could help (under payment of cause)
>> my son Itamar
>>
>> with his programming project.
>>
>>
>>
>> The project is at a level of high school (12'Th grade), and it should
>> lead to an android application
>>
>> for people hospitalized or under medical care in a hospital.
>>
>>
>>
>> The application is designed for both patients and medical stuff.
>>
>> It should contain elementary data base of several diseases (or illnesses,
>> sickness),
>>
>> of different treatments (such as blood tests, CT, MRI, plastering etc.),
>>
>> and the medical history of the patient.
>>
>>
>>
>> The application will be linked to a server (mounted on a PC), and will
>> receive relevant orders
>>
>> (which treatments/examinations are needed) and where to go next
>>
>> (according to available room in one of the required treatments).
>>
>>
>>
>> Medical stuff should have general access to the data base, while ordinary
>> users will get only
>>
>> what's relevant for them, at the specific care.
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking forward to hear from you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron Schreier
>>
>> 054-6251104
>>
>> ron_ela KRUCHIT hotmail.com <ron_ela at hotmail.com>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
> http://ladypine.org
>



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From elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il  Sun Feb  2 13:17:07 2014
From: elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il (Ely Levy)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 13:17:07 +0200
Subject: [JOB OFFER] Android application
In-Reply-To: <CAA8-RXhMj2x6QwEmYH33tKBTxeGCra9bW11CA3dJ_sgZ6jxgXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA8-RXgSCJrp4CpHBnYEHryf9qdMZAeO4M7cB+sadzg-bQ2Lxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXhMj2x6QwEmYH33tKBTxeGCra9bW11CA3dJ_sgZ6jxgXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADojz0cKQKUnjxPe72YY-NqVfJe8v1UZtK2wRyUVDW1PhOYP4g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Sounds like a pretty simple straight forward project.
What sort of help is needed?
Is it going to be used by actual people?

Personally I would have been more motivated to help if it was opensource
project rather than being paid

Ely



On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello Linuxers,
> My friend is looking for paid help with a high-school project on android.
> Please see below.
> Thanks
> Orna
>
>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ron and Ela Schreier  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Orna,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I ask you to look for a student who could help (under payment of cause)
>>> my son Itamar
>>>
>>> with his programming project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The project is at a level of high school (12'Th grade), and it should
>>> lead to an android application
>>>
>>> for people hospitalized or under medical care in a hospital.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The application is designed for both patients and medical stuff.
>>>
>>> It should contain elementary data base of several diseases (or
>>> illnesses, sickness),
>>>
>>> of different treatments (such as blood tests, CT, MRI, plastering etc.),
>>>
>>> and the medical history of the patient.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The application will be linked to a server (mounted on a PC), and will
>>> receive relevant orders
>>>
>>> (which treatments/examinations are needed) and where to go next
>>>
>>> (according to available room in one of the required treatments).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Medical stuff should have general access to the data base, while
>>> ordinary users will get only
>>>
>>> what's relevant for them, at the specific care.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking forward to hear from you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Schreier
>>>
>>> 054-6251104
>>>
>>> ron_ela KRUCHIT hotmail.com <ron_ela at hotmail.com>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>> http://ladypine.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
> http://ladypine.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
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From ladypine at gmail.com  Sun Feb  2 13:20:46 2014
From: ladypine at gmail.com (Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 13:20:46 +0200
Subject: [JOB OFFER] Android application
In-Reply-To: <CADojz0cKQKUnjxPe72YY-NqVfJe8v1UZtK2wRyUVDW1PhOYP4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA8-RXgSCJrp4CpHBnYEHryf9qdMZAeO4M7cB+sadzg-bQ2Lxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXhMj2x6QwEmYH33tKBTxeGCra9bW11CA3dJ_sgZ6jxgXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADojz0cKQKUnjxPe72YY-NqVfJe8v1UZtK2wRyUVDW1PhOYP4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA8-RXhPSNGf2zwG3b03Xhz=rTyc4t+O+_J9-ckOCTmHfuZyYw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ely,
There is no reason for the outcome not to be open source. It is paid work
because someone (Itamar) cares a lot about it - it will affect his BAGRUT
grade, and he needs a tutor for it.
Paid does not mean proprietary!
So this is your chance to shape a young mind in the direction of FOSS...
Thanks
Orna


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM, E L <elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Sounds like a pretty simple straight forward project.
> What sort of help is needed?
> Is it going to be used by actual people?
>
> Personally I would have been more motivated to help if it was opensource
> project rather than being paid
>
> Ely
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello Linuxers,
>> My friend is looking for paid help with a high-school project on android.
>> Please see below.
>> Thanks
>> Orna
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ron and Ela Schreier  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Orna,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ask you to look for a student who could help (under payment of cause)
>>>> my son Itamar
>>>>
>>>> with his programming project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The project is at a level of high school (12'Th grade), and it should
>>>> lead to an android application
>>>>
>>>> for people hospitalized or under medical care in a hospital.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The application is designed for both patients and medical stuff.
>>>>
>>>> It should contain elementary data base of several diseases (or
>>>> illnesses, sickness),
>>>>
>>>> of different treatments (such as blood tests, CT, MRI, plastering
>>>> etc.),
>>>>
>>>> and the medical history of the patient.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The application will be linked to a server (mounted on a PC), and will
>>>> receive relevant orders
>>>>
>>>> (which treatments/examinations are needed) and where to go next
>>>>
>>>> (according to available room in one of the required treatments).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Medical stuff should have general access to the data base, while
>>>> ordinary users will get only
>>>>
>>>> what's relevant for them, at the specific care.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to hear from you,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron Schreier
>>>>
>>>> 054-6251104
>>>>
>>>> ron_ela KRUCHIT hotmail.com <ron_ela at hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>>> http://ladypine.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>> http://ladypine.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>


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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Sun Feb  2 13:32:56 2014
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 13:32:56 +0200
Subject: [JOB OFFER] Android application
In-Reply-To: <CAA8-RXhPSNGf2zwG3b03Xhz=rTyc4t+O+_J9-ckOCTmHfuZyYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA8-RXgSCJrp4CpHBnYEHryf9qdMZAeO4M7cB+sadzg-bQ2Lxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXhMj2x6QwEmYH33tKBTxeGCra9bW11CA3dJ_sgZ6jxgXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADojz0cKQKUnjxPe72YY-NqVfJe8v1UZtK2wRyUVDW1PhOYP4g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXhPSNGf2zwG3b03Xhz=rTyc4t+O+_J9-ckOCTmHfuZyYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BOxguEtttb+Jt25HW2AQzw+UCkyrvpCnJqCud6EetLvpw@mail.gmail.com>

Careful the main cost of medical applications is liability insurance!


2014-02-02 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com>:

> Hi Ely,
> There is no reason for the outcome not to be open source. It is paid work
> because someone (Itamar) cares a lot about it - it will affect his BAGRUT
> grade, and he needs a tutor for it.
> Paid does not mean proprietary!
> So this is your chance to shape a young mind in the direction of FOSS...
> Thanks
> Orna
>
>
>  On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM, E L <elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sounds like a pretty simple straight forward project.
>> What sort of help is needed?
>> Is it going to be used by actual people?
>>
>> Personally I would have been more motivated to help if it was opensource
>> project rather than being paid
>>
>> Ely
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Linuxers,
>>> My friend is looking for paid help with a high-school project on android.
>>> Please see below.
>>> Thanks
>>> Orna
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ron and Ela Schreier  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Orna,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask you to look for a student who could help (under payment of
>>>>> cause) my son Itamar
>>>>>
>>>>> with his programming project.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The project is at a level of high school (12'Th grade), and it should
>>>>> lead to an android application
>>>>>
>>>>> for people hospitalized or under medical care in a hospital.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The application is designed for both patients and medical stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> It should contain elementary data base of several diseases (or
>>>>> illnesses, sickness),
>>>>>
>>>>> of different treatments (such as blood tests, CT, MRI, plastering
>>>>> etc.),
>>>>>
>>>>> and the medical history of the patient.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The application will be linked to a server (mounted on a PC), and will
>>>>> receive relevant orders
>>>>>
>>>>> (which treatments/examinations are needed) and where to go next
>>>>>
>>>>> (according to available room in one of the required treatments).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Medical stuff should have general access to the data base, while
>>>>> ordinary users will get only
>>>>>
>>>>> what's relevant for them, at the specific care.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to hear from you,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron Schreier
>>>>>
>>>>> 054-6251104
>>>>>
>>>>> ron_ela KRUCHIT hotmail.com <ron_ela at hotmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>>>> http://ladypine.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>>> http://ladypine.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Linux-il mailing list
>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
> http://ladypine.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ladypine at gmail.com  Sun Feb  2 13:38:40 2014
From: ladypine at gmail.com (Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 13:38:40 +0200
Subject: [JOB OFFER] Android application
In-Reply-To: <CAHTx_BOxguEtttb+Jt25HW2AQzw+UCkyrvpCnJqCud6EetLvpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA8-RXgSCJrp4CpHBnYEHryf9qdMZAeO4M7cB+sadzg-bQ2Lxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXhMj2x6QwEmYH33tKBTxeGCra9bW11CA3dJ_sgZ6jxgXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADojz0cKQKUnjxPe72YY-NqVfJe8v1UZtK2wRyUVDW1PhOYP4g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXhPSNGf2zwG3b03Xhz=rTyc4t+O+_J9-ckOCTmHfuZyYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHTx_BOxguEtttb+Jt25HW2AQzw+UCkyrvpCnJqCud6EetLvpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA8-RXie6gRvBrJ0QcGE-Fyob1gROkz3hmGt1JwxW5-YaJEfHw@mail.gmail.com>

People - this is a bagrut project. Please think of it as a tutoring job.
Not as a start up.


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:32 PM, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>wrote:

> Careful the main cost of medical applications is liability insurance!
>
>
> 2014-02-02 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Ely,
>> There is no reason for the outcome not to be open source. It is paid work
>> because someone (Itamar) cares a lot about it - it will affect his BAGRUT
>> grade, and he needs a tutor for it.
>> Paid does not mean proprietary!
>> So this is your chance to shape a young mind in the direction of FOSS...
>> Thanks
>> Orna
>>
>>
>>  On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM, E L <elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sounds like a pretty simple straight forward project.
>>> What sort of help is needed?
>>> Is it going to be used by actual people?
>>>
>>> Personally I would have been more motivated to help if it was opensource
>>> project rather than being paid
>>>
>>> Ely
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <
>>> ladypine at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Linuxers,
>>>> My friend is looking for paid help with a high-school project on
>>>> android.
>>>> Please see below.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Orna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ron and Ela Schreier  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Orna,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask you to look for a student who could help (under payment of
>>>>>> cause) my son Itamar
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with his programming project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The project is at a level of high school (12'Th grade), and it should
>>>>>> lead to an android application
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for people hospitalized or under medical care in a hospital.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The application is designed for both patients and medical stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should contain elementary data base of several diseases (or
>>>>>> illnesses, sickness),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of different treatments (such as blood tests, CT, MRI, plastering
>>>>>> etc.),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and the medical history of the patient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The application will be linked to a server (mounted on a PC), and
>>>>>> will receive relevant orders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (which treatments/examinations are needed) and where to go next
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (according to available room in one of the required treatments).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Medical stuff should have general access to the data base, while
>>>>>> ordinary users will get only
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what's relevant for them, at the specific care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to hear from you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron Schreier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 054-6251104
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ron_ela KRUCHIT hotmail.com <ron_ela at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>>>>> http://ladypine.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>>>> http://ladypine.org
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Linux-il mailing list
>>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>> http://ladypine.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>


-- 
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http://ladypine.org
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From elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il  Sun Feb  2 20:11:44 2014
From: elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il (Ely Levy)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:11:44 +0200
Subject: [JOB OFFER] Android application
In-Reply-To: <CAA8-RXie6gRvBrJ0QcGE-Fyob1gROkz3hmGt1JwxW5-YaJEfHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA8-RXgSCJrp4CpHBnYEHryf9qdMZAeO4M7cB+sadzg-bQ2Lxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXhMj2x6QwEmYH33tKBTxeGCra9bW11CA3dJ_sgZ6jxgXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADojz0cKQKUnjxPe72YY-NqVfJe8v1UZtK2wRyUVDW1PhOYP4g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXhPSNGf2zwG3b03Xhz=rTyc4t+O+_J9-ckOCTmHfuZyYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHTx_BOxguEtttb+Jt25HW2AQzw+UCkyrvpCnJqCud6EetLvpw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA8-RXie6gRvBrJ0QcGE-Fyob1gROkz3hmGt1JwxW5-YaJEfHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADojz0fX2r47GYnSGkXBNTgm71fa+nyPuDTzQxTb7Vu33SqBEg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes,
But what sort of help is needed?
Just someone to ask questions? Write code?
Is it part of project program?(where they have official mentors)

NMI

Ely


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com>wrote:

> People - this is a bagrut project. Please think of it as a tutoring job.
> Not as a start up.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:32 PM, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>wrote:
>
>> Careful the main cost of medical applications is liability insurance!
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-02 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi Ely,
>>> There is no reason for the outcome not to be open source. It is paid
>>> work because someone (Itamar) cares a lot about it - it will affect his
>>> BAGRUT grade, and he needs a tutor for it.
>>> Paid does not mean proprietary!
>>> So this is your chance to shape a young mind in the direction of FOSS...
>>> Thanks
>>> Orna
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM, E L <elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a pretty simple straight forward project.
>>>> What sort of help is needed?
>>>> Is it going to be used by actual people?
>>>>
>>>> Personally I would have been more motivated to help if it was
>>>> opensource project rather than being paid
>>>>
>>>> Ely
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <
>>>> ladypine at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Linuxers,
>>>>> My friend is looking for paid help with a high-school project on
>>>>> android.
>>>>> Please see below.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Orna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ron and Ela Schreier  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Orna,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ask you to look for a student who could help (under payment of
>>>>>>> cause) my son Itamar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with his programming project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The project is at a level of high school (12'Th grade), and it
>>>>>>> should lead to an android application
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for people hospitalized or under medical care in a hospital.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The application is designed for both patients and medical stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It should contain elementary data base of several diseases (or
>>>>>>> illnesses, sickness),
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of different treatments (such as blood tests, CT, MRI, plastering
>>>>>>> etc.),
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and the medical history of the patient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The application will be linked to a server (mounted on a PC), and
>>>>>>> will receive relevant orders
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (which treatments/examinations are needed) and where to go next
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (according to available room in one of the required treatments).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Medical stuff should have general access to the data base, while
>>>>>>> ordinary users will get only
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what's relevant for them, at the specific care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to hear from you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron Schreier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 054-6251104
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ron_ela KRUCHIT hotmail.com <ron_ela at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>>>>>> http://ladypine.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>>>>> http://ladypine.org
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Linux-il mailing list
>>>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
>>> http://ladypine.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Linux-il mailing list
>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
> http://ladypine.org
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From write.to.jason at gmail.com  Mon Feb  3 23:13:27 2014
From: write.to.jason at gmail.com (Jason Friedman)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:13:27 +0200
Subject: Old computer parts for pick up
Message-ID: <CAJVJ8zbGpDDx2sLY37E3Nag7E3t2VhCrfWQMCHPUzL-yR10_VQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Before I put these items in the electronics recycling, I thought I'd check
if anyone would like them.

Pick up from Rehovot (evening / weekend) or Tel Aviv University (during the
day).

As far as I know everything was working last time I tested it, but many of
the devices have not been turned on or checked for a few years. Not all
items have power supplies

XBOX (original model, requires 110V, has XBMC installed, includes 2
controllers + IR receiver + remote)
Microsoft multimedia keyboard (PS/2 connector)
Linksys WRTP54G router (with 2 VOIP connections)
Linksys ADSL modem AM300 - Annex A
Linksys NSLU2 (can run linux)
D-Link DI-614+ wireless router
5 port 10/100 Ethernet mini switch
Logitech USB webcam (V-UAP42)
Noontec Gigasave 3.5" HDD USD enclosure (for IDE hard disk)
generic PC power supply (400W)
KB-gear Jam USB graphics tablet (KG-TAB1)
2*2GB DDR2 desktop RAM (240 pin DIMM)
IDE DVD-R/RW drive (Toshiba SD-R5272)
IDE DVD-R/RW / lightscribe (LG GH-22LP20)
Digium S100I (IAxy) [originally won at a Perl conference many years ago :)]
Netgear Wireless print server WGPS606 (can use it to connected wired
network devices to wifi)
PCI firewire card
PCI-E graphics card (Gigabyte GV-N84S-512I)
1 * unlocked USB HSDPA modem (Vodafone Huawei K3520), works with Linux
Vodafone HSDPA USB modem (K3571-Z), not sure if locked

Please reply off-list.

Jason

-- 
Jason Friedman, PhD
Senior Lecturer
Department of Physical Therapy
Tel Aviv University
email: write.to.jason at gmail.com
web: http://curiousjason.com
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From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com  Tue Feb  4 08:10:28 2014
From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (geoffrey mendelson)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:10:28 +0200
Subject: EPROM burner
Message-ID: <52F08454.2090601@gmail.com>

Anyone know of an EPROM burner whose actual software runs under Linux?

I know there are plenty of EPROM utilities, but I am looking for a 
burner which I can connect to a computer running Linux, (USB preferred, 
RS232 or parallel ok)  and use it. I am just fed up with burners that 
use lousy software which only runs under 32 bit windows, even when 
advertised as supporting 64 bit.

Nothing fancy, I just need to program DIP package 27/27c chips. I need 
the basic functions,  read, write, verify, check if erased.

TIA.

Geoff.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
Jerusalem Israel.



From rabin at rabin.io  Tue Feb  4 13:54:08 2014
From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 13:54:08 +0200
Subject: EPROM burner
In-Reply-To: <52F08454.2090601@gmail.com>
References: <52F08454.2090601@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABKuJEA7z+22XjB9cLFFWLxFe7YQzM=W63Aqe9hcn1FEEp35vA@mail.gmail.com>

you can try and build one yourself - http://usbpicprog.org/


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:10 AM, geoffrey mendelson <
geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone know of an EPROM burner whose actual software runs under Linux?
>
> I know there are plenty of EPROM utilities, but I am looking for a burner
> which I can connect to a computer running Linux, (USB preferred, RS232 or
> parallel ok)  and use it. I am just fed up with burners that use lousy
> software which only runs under 32 bit windows, even when advertised as
> supporting 64 bit.
>
> Nothing fancy, I just need to program DIP package 27/27c chips. I need the
> basic functions,  read, write, verify, check if erased.
>
> TIA.
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
> Jerusalem Israel.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>



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From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com  Tue Feb  4 14:08:12 2014
From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (geoffrey mendelson)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:08:12 +0200
Subject: EPROM burner
In-Reply-To: <CABKuJEA7z+22XjB9cLFFWLxFe7YQzM=W63Aqe9hcn1FEEp35vA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52F08454.2090601@gmail.com>
 <CABKuJEA7z+22XjB9cLFFWLxFe7YQzM=W63Aqe9hcn1FEEp35vA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52F0D82C.2000007@gmail.com>

On 2/4/2014 1:54 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:
> you can try and build one yourself - http://usbpicprog.org/
>

Thanks, I doubt that I will be building anything myself anymore.

This would not do anyway, it is for programming PIC chips, I want 
EPROMS. PIC chips are processors with read only memory on the chip. 
EPROMS are 1970's technology, read only memory chips that can be 
programmed with a high enough voltage, and then erased with ultra-violet 
light. They were a big step above PROMs which were programed one time 
only by literally burning the silicon away.

EPROMs are still made today, in fact while you can buy them for about $1 
each pulled from old equipment in China, you can buy electronically 
identical  current production ones in modern packages, they are about 
$40 each.

The generic burners are cheap enough, under $50 including postage on 
eBay, but none of them have software that actually works under 64 bit 
Windows.  Since I also have a computer running linux on my desktop, I 
thought I would look there.

Geoff.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
Jerusalem Israel.

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From rabin at rabin.io  Tue Feb  4 14:21:36 2014
From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 14:21:36 +0200
Subject: EPROM burner
In-Reply-To: <52F0D82C.2000007@gmail.com>
References: <52F08454.2090601@gmail.com>
 <CABKuJEA7z+22XjB9cLFFWLxFe7YQzM=W63Aqe9hcn1FEEp35vA@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F0D82C.2000007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABKuJEA+Nj=bjN7UU6ucvktmBPnyQFQEEkNe2JuKtNaCsPf7mA@mail.gmail.com>

The last time i programmed a EPROM was over 10 years ago (8051),
and even then we did it with a DOS application,
a year/2 after that we switched to EEPROM's which were much easier to
manage.

I had a large range of programmers,
which they all suffer from the same problem you having right now,
which forced me to keep old computer/laptop for specific programmers.

Which chip are you trying to program ?


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:08 PM, geoffrey mendelson <
geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:

>  On 2/4/2014 1:54 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:
>
>  you can try and build one yourself - http://usbpicprog.org/
>
>
> Thanks, I doubt that I will be building anything myself anymore.
>
> This would not do anyway, it is for programming PIC chips, I want EPROMS.
> PIC chips are processors with read only memory on the chip. EPROMS are
> 1970's technology, read only memory chips that can be programmed with a
> high enough voltage, and then erased with ultra-violet light. They were a
> big step above PROMs which were programed one time only by literally
> burning the silicon away.
>
> EPROMs are still made today, in fact while you can buy them for about $1
> each pulled from old equipment in China, you can buy electronically
> identical  current production ones in modern packages, they are about $40
> each.
>
> The generic burners are cheap enough, under $50 including postage on eBay,
> but none of them have software that actually works under 64 bit Windows.
> Since I also have a computer running linux on my desktop, I thought I would
> look there.
>
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
> Jerusalem Israel.
>
>


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From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com  Tue Feb  4 14:29:13 2014
From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (geoffrey mendelson)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:29:13 +0200
Subject: EPROM burner
In-Reply-To: <CABKuJEA+Nj=bjN7UU6ucvktmBPnyQFQEEkNe2JuKtNaCsPf7mA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52F08454.2090601@gmail.com>
 <CABKuJEA7z+22XjB9cLFFWLxFe7YQzM=W63Aqe9hcn1FEEp35vA@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F0D82C.2000007@gmail.com>
 <CABKuJEA+Nj=bjN7UU6ucvktmBPnyQFQEEkNe2JuKtNaCsPf7mA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52F0DD19.8020403@gmail.com>

On 2/4/2014 2:21 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:
> The last time i programmed a EPROM was over 10 years ago (8051),
> and even then we did it with a DOS application,
> a year/2 after that we switched to EEPROM's which were much easier to 
> manage.
>
> I had a large range of programmers,
> which they all suffer from the same problem you having right now,
> which forced me to keep old computer/laptop for specific programmers.
>
> Which chip are you trying to program ?
>

I want to program the 27 series chips, e.g. 2732, 2764, 27128, 27256 and 
27512. Also the CMOS versions 27c128, 27c256 and 27c512.  All that have 
have done this century are 27c256's but that could change.

The chips are in old radios, which do not support EEPROMS.

Thanks.

Geoff.

-- 
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Jerusalem Israel.

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From write.to.jason at gmail.com  Tue Feb  4 15:14:24 2014
From: write.to.jason at gmail.com (Jason Friedman)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:14:24 +0200
Subject: Old computer parts for pick up
Message-ID: <CAJVJ8zam9hNLkrkS+5M4qeX5pkRDhqHbNuB0jTkujR8rCCmLYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

All the items on the list have been claimed - I will email the people who
asked for items individually later today.

Thanks,

Jason


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Jason Friedman <write.to.jason at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Before I put these items in the electronics recycling, I thought I'd check
> if anyone would like them.
>
> Pick up from Rehovot (evening / weekend) or Tel Aviv University (during
> the day).
>
> As far as I know everything was working last time I tested it, but many of
> the devices have not been turned on or checked for a few years. Not all
> items have power supplies
>
> XBOX (original model, requires 110V, has XBMC installed, includes 2
> controllers + IR receiver + remote)
> Microsoft multimedia keyboard (PS/2 connector)
> Linksys WRTP54G router (with 2 VOIP connections)
> Linksys ADSL modem AM300 - Annex A
> Linksys NSLU2 (can run linux)
> D-Link DI-614+ wireless router
> 5 port 10/100 Ethernet mini switch
> Logitech USB webcam (V-UAP42)
> Noontec Gigasave 3.5" HDD USD enclosure (for IDE hard disk)
> generic PC power supply (400W)
> KB-gear Jam USB graphics tablet (KG-TAB1)
> 2*2GB DDR2 desktop RAM (240 pin DIMM)
> IDE DVD-R/RW drive (Toshiba SD-R5272)
> IDE DVD-R/RW / lightscribe (LG GH-22LP20)
> Digium S100I (IAxy) [originally won at a Perl conference many years ago :)]
> Netgear Wireless print server WGPS606 (can use it to connected wired
> network devices to wifi)
> PCI firewire card
> PCI-E graphics card (Gigabyte GV-N84S-512I)
> 1 * unlocked USB HSDPA modem (Vodafone Huawei K3520), works with Linux
> Vodafone HSDPA USB modem (K3571-Z), not sure if locked
>
> Please reply off-list.
>
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason Friedman, PhD
> Senior Lecturer
> Department of Physical Therapy
> Tel Aviv University
> email: write.to.jason at gmail.com
> web: http://curiousjason.com
>



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Senior Lecturer
Department of Physical Therapy
Tel Aviv University
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From rabin at rabin.io  Tue Feb  4 18:44:48 2014
From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 18:44:48 +0200
Subject: EPROM burner
In-Reply-To: <52F0DD19.8020403@gmail.com>
References: <52F08454.2090601@gmail.com>
 <CABKuJEA7z+22XjB9cLFFWLxFe7YQzM=W63Aqe9hcn1FEEp35vA@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F0D82C.2000007@gmail.com>
 <CABKuJEA+Nj=bjN7UU6ucvktmBPnyQFQEEkNe2JuKtNaCsPf7mA@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F0DD19.8020403@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABKuJEBueJ05RUZC2q6HobmB5LPvS9qUTQdQg9dcxO5+=4_ghw@mail.gmail.com>

You can try using USB Flash/EPROM Programmer
Planning<http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbflashprog/> (I
never used it my self)
based on there documentation on the site, it works with the following
programmers

   - EzoFlash+ (http://www.ezoflash.com/)
   - MPSP (http://www.robsonmartins.com/eletr/mpsp/)

The first one seems to support most of the IC's you mention (
http://www.ezoflash.com/chip_database.php?s=27256)



On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:29 PM, geoffrey mendelson <
geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:

>  On 2/4/2014 2:21 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:
>
>  The last time i programmed a EPROM was over 10 years ago (8051),
> and even then we did it with a DOS application,
> a year/2 after that we switched to EEPROM's which were much easier to
> manage.
>
>  I had a large range of programmers,
> which they all suffer from the same problem you having right now,
> which forced me to keep old computer/laptop for specific programmers.
>
>  Which chip are you trying to program ?
>
>
> I want to program the 27 series chips, e.g. 2732, 2764, 27128, 27256 and
> 27512. Also the CMOS versions 27c128, 27c256 and 27c512.  All that have
> have done this century are 27c256's but that could change.
>
> The chips are in old radios, which do not support EEPROMS.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
> Jerusalem Israel.
>
>


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From shlomif at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 19:52:28 2014
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:52:28 +0200
Subject: Mageia Linux 4 is out.
In-Reply-To: <20140203190449.31b0d0b4@shlomo1.solomon>
References: <CANy4znWWY1O7Oi-G4manqkMN_37KnT3HnvLLDc=SYDkqoLn7Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20140203190449.31b0d0b4@shlomo1.solomon>
Message-ID: <CANy4znXqrGCaQWF0fhFXsHM9EDURWjebRKJcZuX-gNWkCmYeLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Shlomo,

I assume you intended to send the message to the list as well, so I'm CCing
it. Next time please either make sure you hit "Reply to All" or
alternatively specify that the message is deliberately sent in private (and
why). (See my signature for more info).


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon at gmail.com>wrote:

> How safe is it to upgrade online? I can see the mgaonline notification
> on the panel.
>

I've done it in virtual machines several times and it worked fine. Some
people have done it on live hardware. There may be some complications, but
as opposed to Mageia 2 -> Mageia 3 / etc. I don't think there were any
major breakages like the /usr-move or the init->systemd transitions. Don't
hold me accountable if something breaks, but I believe it should be mostly
fine.

For doing such upgrades, I use command line tools like tmux, urpmi.update
and urpmi.


>
> When I was running Mandriva I always upgraded manually or re-installed
> so I don't know how dependable this is.
>

It should be OK. I've done net upgrades in Mandriva too.


>
> Of course it goes without saying that I won't do anything without a
> full backup in place.
>

That's always a good idea.

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish


>
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 16:58:15 +0200
> Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > this is an announcement that Mageia Linux 4 was released today (1
> > February 2014):
> >
> > *
> >
> http://blog.mageia.org/en/2014/02/01/new-year-new-resolutions-and-a-new-mageia-heres-mageia-4/
> >
> > *
> >
> http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7144
> >
> >
> > This is both on schedule and just in time for FOSDEM.
> >
> > I'm looking forward for the package repository to become open for
> > uploads again because I have many pending updates to do.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -- Shlomi Fish
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Shlomo Solomon
> http://the-solomons.net
> Sent by Claws Mail 3.9.0 - KDE 4.10.5 - LINUX Mageia 3
>
>


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------------------------------------------
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From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 08:29:15 2014
From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (geoffrey mendelson)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:29:15 +0200
Subject: galgallatz without flash
Message-ID: <52F47D3B.7080203@gmail.com>

Does anyone know of a current Galgalatz mp3 stream? I want to listen to 
it over the internet without having a flash player.

TIA.

Geoff.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
Jerusalem Israel.



From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 09:04:45 2014
From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:04:45 +0200
Subject: Mageia Linux 4 is out.
In-Reply-To: <CANy4znXqrGCaQWF0fhFXsHM9EDURWjebRKJcZuX-gNWkCmYeLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANy4znWWY1O7Oi-G4manqkMN_37KnT3HnvLLDc=SYDkqoLn7Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20140203190449.31b0d0b4@shlomo1.solomon>
 <CANy4znXqrGCaQWF0fhFXsHM9EDURWjebRKJcZuX-gNWkCmYeLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20140207090445.2037ac8b@shlomo1.solomon>

I do know how to reply to the list ;-) - must have accidentally hit
the wrong button - sorry.

Thanks for your info - I will try first on a virtual machine. 

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:52:28 +0200
Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Shlomo,
> 
> I assume you intended to send the message to the list as well, so I'm
> CCing it. Next time please either make sure you hit "Reply to All" or
> alternatively specify that the message is deliberately sent in
> private (and why). (See my signature for more info).
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Shlomo Solomon
> <shlomo.solomon at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > How safe is it to upgrade online? I can see the mgaonline
> > notification on the panel.
> >
> 
> I've done it in virtual machines several times and it worked fine.
> Some people have done it on live hardware. There may be some
> complications, but as opposed to Mageia 2 -> Mageia 3 / etc. I don't
> think there were any major breakages like the /usr-move or the
> init->systemd transitions. Don't hold me accountable if something
> breaks, but I believe it should be mostly fine.
> 
> For doing such upgrades, I use command line tools like tmux,
> urpmi.update and urpmi.
> 
> 
> >
> > When I was running Mandriva I always upgraded manually or
> > re-installed so I don't know how dependable this is.
> >
> 
> It should be OK. I've done net upgrades in Mandriva too.
> 
> 
> >
> > Of course it goes without saying that I won't do anything without a
> > full backup in place.
> >
> 
> That's always a good idea.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- Shlomi Fish
> 
> 
> >
> > On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 16:58:15 +0200
> > Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > this is an announcement that Mageia Linux 4 was released today (1
> > > February 2014):
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> > http://blog.mageia.org/en/2014/02/01/new-year-new-resolutions-and-a-new-mageia-heres-mageia-4/
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> > http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7144
> > >
> > >
> > > This is both on schedule and just in time for FOSDEM.
> > >
> > > I'm looking forward for the package repository to become open for
> > > uploads again because I have many pending updates to do.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -- Shlomi Fish
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shlomo Solomon
> > http://the-solomons.net
> > Sent by Claws Mail 3.9.0 - KDE 4.10.5 - LINUX Mageia 3
> >
> >
> 
> 



-- 
Shlomo Solomon
http://the-solomons.net
Sent by Claws Mail 3.9.0 - KDE 4.10.5 - LINUX Mageia 3



From shlomif at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 11:13:10 2014
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 11:13:10 +0200
Subject: Mageia Linux 4 is out.
In-Reply-To: <20140207090445.2037ac8b@shlomo1.solomon>
References: <CANy4znWWY1O7Oi-G4manqkMN_37KnT3HnvLLDc=SYDkqoLn7Dw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20140203190449.31b0d0b4@shlomo1.solomon>
 <CANy4znXqrGCaQWF0fhFXsHM9EDURWjebRKJcZuX-gNWkCmYeLQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20140207090445.2037ac8b@shlomo1.solomon>
Message-ID: <CANy4znX0DR4iXbG2=i9b7mE2F-PdOgpfyi=mmiLFkjN=CLhiTA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Shlomo,

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon at gmail.com>wrote:

> I do know how to reply to the list ;-) - must have accidentally hit
> the wrong button - sorry.
>

I see. OK, no problem. This time you sent the message to the list. Thanks!


>
> Thanks for your info - I will try first on a virtual machine.
>

OK, as you wish.

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish

--
Shlomo Solomon
http://the-solomons.net
Sent by Claws Mail 3.9.0 - KDE 4.10.5 - LINUX Mageia 3


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From shlomif at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 11:34:15 2014
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 11:34:15 +0200
Subject: galgallatz without flash
In-Reply-To: <52F47D3B.7080203@gmail.com>
References: <52F47D3B.7080203@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANy4znXs+3R3fRgar1p7uWPu_82dDxBSzZF5rj+ZO2gnPTRzrw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Geoffrey,


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:29 AM, geoffrey mendelson <
geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a current Galgalatz mp3 stream? I want to listen to it
> over the internet without having a flash player.
>
>
The Too Long ; Didn't Read ver (TL;DR) is that it appears to be
http://test.live.net.il/glgltz-a-zixief.m3u8 . I was unable to play it with
vlc-2.1.3-1.mga5.tainted on Mageia Linux x86-64 5 for some reason, but
mplayer seems to work (though is a bit noisy). Here is how I found it:

1. I searched Google Blog Search for "???? VLC" and found this -
https://www.google.com/search?num=40&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1450&bih=690&tbs=sbd%3A1&tbm=blg&q=%D7%A8%D7%93%D7%99%D7%95+VLC&oq=%D7%A8%D7%93%D7%99%D7%95+VLC&gs_l=serp.3..0i22i30l4.30538.32504.0.33392.8.7.0.1.1.0.188.1057.1j6.7.0....0...1c.1.34.serp..1.7.873._QD9Xq4Ye-A.
Then I got to
http://rachelmelaketet.com/archives/566 .

2. The info in the blog post itself was out of date, but there was a
comment there that referred to http://www.hometheater.co.il/vt188272 .

3. This referred to
https://raw.github.com/xbmc-il/radio-il/master/vlc/radio-il-vlc-online.m3u,
which in turn contained a link to
http://xbmc-il.com/radio-il.m3u .

4. I downloaded the .m3u and inspected it using a pager .

5. This contains a link to  https://github.com/xbmc-il/radio-il which is a
project on GitHub for maintaining a list .

So it was quite a breadcrumbs trail.

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish

-- 
------------------------------------------
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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Fri Feb  7 12:24:17 2014
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 12:24:17 +0200
Subject: galgallatz without flash
In-Reply-To: <CANy4znXs+3R3fRgar1p7uWPu_82dDxBSzZF5rj+ZO2gnPTRzrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52F47D3B.7080203@gmail.com>
 <CANy4znXs+3R3fRgar1p7uWPu_82dDxBSzZF5rj+ZO2gnPTRzrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BMZGjxtXL2n3335bid6VJBec+r1=7g8BxHkShiojckp6g@mail.gmail.com>

The flash player is most likely just playing a mp3 or some other form of
stream, if you analyze the traffic/code/links you may be able to gat a link
out of that....

Stuff like flashgot may be useful....


2014-02-07 Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com>:

> Hi Geoffrey,
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:29 AM, geoffrey mendelson <
> geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of a current Galgalatz mp3 stream? I want to listen to
>> it over the internet without having a flash player.
>>
>>
> The Too Long ; Didn't Read ver (TL;DR) is that it appears to be
> http://test.live.net.il/glgltz-a-zixief.m3u8 . I was unable to play it
> with vlc-2.1.3-1.mga5.tainted on Mageia Linux x86-64 5 for some reason, but
> mplayer seems to work (though is a bit noisy). Here is how I found it:
>
> 1. I searched Google Blog Search for "???? VLC" and found this -
> https://www.google.com/search?num=40&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1450&bih=690&tbs=sbd%3A1&tbm=blg&q=%D7%A8%D7%93%D7%99%D7%95+VLC&oq=%D7%A8%D7%93%D7%99%D7%95+VLC&gs_l=serp.3..0i22i30l4.30538.32504.0.33392.8.7.0.1.1.0.188.1057.1j6.7.0....0...1c.1.34.serp..1.7.873._QD9Xq4Ye-A. Then I got to
> http://rachelmelaketet.com/archives/566 .
>
> 2. The info in the blog post itself was out of date, but there was a
> comment there that referred to http://www.hometheater.co.il/vt188272 .
>
> 3. This referred to
> https://raw.github.com/xbmc-il/radio-il/master/vlc/radio-il-vlc-online.m3u, which in turn contained a link to
> http://xbmc-il.com/radio-il.m3u .
>
> 4. I downloaded the .m3u and inspected it using a pager .
>
> 5. This contains a link to  https://github.com/xbmc-il/radio-il which is
> a project on GitHub for maintaining a list .
>
> So it was quite a breadcrumbs trail.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- Shlomi Fish
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------
> Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/
>
> Chuck Norris helps the gods that help themselves.
>
> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
>
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From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 13:56:22 2014
From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (geoffrey mendelson)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:56:22 +0200
Subject: galgallatz without flash
In-Reply-To: <CAHTx_BMZGjxtXL2n3335bid6VJBec+r1=7g8BxHkShiojckp6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52F47D3B.7080203@gmail.com>
 <CANy4znXs+3R3fRgar1p7uWPu_82dDxBSzZF5rj+ZO2gnPTRzrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHTx_BMZGjxtXL2n3335bid6VJBec+r1=7g8BxHkShiojckp6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52F4C9E6.9070804@gmail.com>

On 2/7/2014 12:24 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> The flash player is most likely just playing a mp3 or some other form 
> of stream, if you analyze the traffic/code/links you may be able to 
> gat a link out of that....
>
> Stuff like flashgot may be useful....
>

It's not. It's an MP3 stream alright, but it's a FLASH ONLY MP3 stream.

:-(

Geoff.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
Jerusalem Israel.



From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Fri Feb  7 15:09:11 2014
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 15:09:11 +0200
Subject: galgallatz without flash
In-Reply-To: <52F4C9E6.9070804@gmail.com>
References: <52F47D3B.7080203@gmail.com>
 <CANy4znXs+3R3fRgar1p7uWPu_82dDxBSzZF5rj+ZO2gnPTRzrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHTx_BMZGjxtXL2n3335bid6VJBec+r1=7g8BxHkShiojckp6g@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F4C9E6.9070804@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BNP+P31D3gLUvEMhxUwwCzn-gPGYb2UBejqs4iNS21BRQ@mail.gmail.com>

No such thing, if it's streaming you just need to get a hold of how to tap
into the stream, unless there's some kind of DRM on the stream  it should
work.


2014-02-07 geoffrey mendelson <geoffreymendelson at gmail.com>:

> On 2/7/2014 12:24 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> The flash player is most likely just playing a mp3 or some other form of
>> stream, if you analyze the traffic/code/links you may be able to gat a link
>> out of that....
>>
>> Stuff like flashgot may be useful....
>>
>>
> It's not. It's an MP3 stream alright, but it's a FLASH ONLY MP3 stream.
>
> :-(
>
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
> Jerusalem Israel.
>
>
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From geoff at QuiteLikely.com  Fri Feb  7 16:08:40 2014
From: geoff at QuiteLikely.com (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:08:40 +0200 (IST)
Subject: galgallatz without flash
In-Reply-To: <52F4C9E6.9070804@gmail.com>
References: <52F47D3B.7080203@gmail.com>
 <CANy4znXs+3R3fRgar1p7uWPu_82dDxBSzZF5rj+ZO2gnPTRzrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHTx_BMZGjxtXL2n3335bid6VJBec+r1=7g8BxHkShiojckp6g@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F4C9E6.9070804@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1402071607350.19186@voldemort.home>

On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, geoffrey mendelson wrote:

> It's not. It's an MP3 stream alright, but it's a FLASH ONLY MP3 stream.

Mplayer2 says:

Detected file format: Apple HTTP Live Streaming format (libavformat)

and further down says that it's an AAC codec.

Geoff.



From shlomif at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 17:59:09 2014
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 17:59:09 +0200
Subject: galgallatz without flash
In-Reply-To: <CAHTx_BNP+P31D3gLUvEMhxUwwCzn-gPGYb2UBejqs4iNS21BRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52F47D3B.7080203@gmail.com>
 <CANy4znXs+3R3fRgar1p7uWPu_82dDxBSzZF5rj+ZO2gnPTRzrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHTx_BMZGjxtXL2n3335bid6VJBec+r1=7g8BxHkShiojckp6g@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F4C9E6.9070804@gmail.com>
 <CAHTx_BNP+P31D3gLUvEMhxUwwCzn-gPGYb2UBejqs4iNS21BRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANy4znUChFZP124qudwvL1-Qck=YfF=uTwVF0ORw3NosVoqpXw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi E.S.,

Thanks for the insights. The may prove useful in the future.

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish



On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:09 PM, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>wrote:

> No such thing, if it's streaming you just need to get a hold of how to tap
> into the stream, unless there's some kind of DRM on the stream  it should
> work.
>
>
> 2014-02-07 geoffrey mendelson <geoffreymendelson at gmail.com>:
>
> On 2/7/2014 12:24 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>>
>>> The flash player is most likely just playing a mp3 or some other form of
>>> stream, if you analyze the traffic/code/links you may be able to gat a link
>>> out of that....
>>>
>>> Stuff like flashgot may be useful....
>>>
>>>
>> It's not. It's an MP3 stream alright, but it's a FLASH ONLY MP3 stream.
>>
>> :-(
>>
>>
>> Geoff.
>>
>> --
>> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
>> Jerusalem Israel.
>>
>>
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From dronkin at gmail.com  Sat Feb  8 22:56:42 2014
From: dronkin at gmail.com (David Ronkin)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 22:56:42 +0200
Subject: DBA Needed
Message-ID: <CAGq1vfGr5+SQvTPGYsx5nkzjfiTOf=0tuDyUYmc8SBdXY1VoSg@mail.gmail.com>

Small private internet company in Petach Tikva (http://www.ok2go.co.il) is
looking for experineced DBA full or part time (not freelancers):


   - MS SQL Server
   - MYSQL
   - IT Linux/Win is a plus
   - WEB services & development  is a plus (Apache,IIS,PHP/JS)
   - Out of the box thinking
   - Support oriented

Please responde off the list to me at  david at ok2go.co.il  with the CV
(sorry not pure linux but the trend is to move 100% eventually :) )

Thanks!
David






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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Mon Feb 10 00:16:06 2014
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:16:06 +0200
Subject: ITA approved accounting software that runs on linux
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BP1h-9QVGVV2gDWKKDO71-mDRL1XW9suTxMDvdGp5MqUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
I know this subject has been dealt with in the past but since the field is
fluid I'm bringing it up again.
A friend of mine manages the books for several zedaka funds, currently he
still does this on an old DOS machine running chashavshevet, but the
machine is starting to display some potential signs of problems so he is
starting to look at other solutions.

Sadly (but understandably) gnucash is not Israel Tax Authority approved so
it's not an option, are there any Linux friendly options or will they have
to have a windows machine in the house again (I switched them to all linux
+ 1 dos about 1-1.5 years ago).

Thanks,
Eliyahu - ?????
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From vordoo at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 10 11:42:53 2014
From: vordoo at yahoo.com (vordoo)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:42:53 +0200
Subject: ITA approved accounting software that runs on linux
In-Reply-To: <CAHTx_BP1h-9QVGVV2gDWKKDO71-mDRL1XW9suTxMDvdGp5MqUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHTx_BP1h-9QVGVV2gDWKKDO71-mDRL1XW9suTxMDvdGp5MqUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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From amichai at iglu.org.il  Mon Feb 10 11:53:40 2014
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:53:40 +0200
Subject: ITA approved accounting software that runs on linux
In-Reply-To: <52F89F1D.1070808@yahoo.com>
References: <CAHTx_BP1h-9QVGVV2gDWKKDO71-mDRL1XW9suTxMDvdGp5MqUQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F89F1D.1070808@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAD_ZK64MK4YKJ4waY0cgkyDZ0F50UTSpqkVbWwCBZN+UbL0mQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Eliyahu,

I wonder: Will Hashavshevet run on FreeDOS?

Theoretically, you could buy a new machine, install FreeDOS as the OS and
copy the Hashavshevet DOS files to it...

Could you give it a try and let us all know?

Amichai.


2014-02-10 11:42 GMT+02:00 vordoo <vordoo at yahoo.com>:

>  Hi,
>
> Hopefully you will get or find a striate answer but as I follow this
> question for a long time with no actionable resoles I would:
>
> 1. Rephrase the question to: "Is anyone hear using or knows someone who
> uses a linux desktop application (not a web based site) for an IL business
> accounting?"
>
> 2. Consider using the old windows program in a virtual machine, it maybe
> even better then the present setup, as you can access it from other PCs in
> the network.
>  *** you may need to make sure more then one concoction is not aloud,
> depending on the original software design ***.
>
> HTH,
> :-)
>
>  On 2014-02-10 00:16, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>
>   Hi all,
>  I know this subject has been dealt with in the past but since the field
> is fluid I'm bringing it up again.
>  A friend of mine manages the books for several zedaka funds, currently he
> still does this on an old DOS machine running chashavshevet, but the
> machine is starting to display some potential signs of problems so he is
> starting to look at other solutions.
>
>  Sadly (but understandably) gnucash is not Israel Tax Authority approved
> so it's not an option, are there any Linux friendly options or will they
> have to have a windows machine in the house again (I switched them to all
> linux + 1 dos about 1-1.5 years ago).
>
>  Thanks,
> Eliyahu - ?????
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing listLinux-il at cs.huji.ac.ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Linux-IL at udif.com  Mon Feb 10 12:08:08 2014
From: Linux-IL at udif.com (Udi Finkelstein)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:08:08 +0200
Subject: ITA approved accounting software that runs on linux
In-Reply-To: <CAD_ZK64MK4YKJ4waY0cgkyDZ0F50UTSpqkVbWwCBZN+UbL0mQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHTx_BP1h-9QVGVV2gDWKKDO71-mDRL1XW9suTxMDvdGp5MqUQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F89F1D.1070808@yahoo.com>
 <CAD_ZK64MK4YKJ4waY0cgkyDZ0F50UTSpqkVbWwCBZN+UbL0mQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHAFOD8ge7yeF6-YG0RGSv6z+nPE++drLbBP3uAL9D0WOaW1zw@mail.gmail.com>

The question is not if it will run under FreeDOS, but if it will be usable
under FreeDOS.
How will you back it up? The old machine probably had a floppy drive. I
don't think that's a solution you want to stick to.
In any case, you can always run it under VirtualBox and then backup the
virtual HD file.
You can even use the original DOS if you want.
In fact you can create a disk image from the original HD and move it to the
virtual machine.

Another question is if Hashavshevet has a dongle (copy-protection). If yes,
what type (parallel port?) and how these can be supported.
I'm not sure you can even find a motherboard with an on-board true parallel
port anymore. a USB to parallel adapter may not be compatible with copy
protected programs that expects to access the parallel port via the
original I/O locations in the PC memory map.

This may be of help:
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/bastelecke/Rund%20um%20den%20PC/USB2LPT/ul-15.en.htm

Udi


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il>wrote:

> Hi Eliyahu,
>
> I wonder: Will Hashavshevet run on FreeDOS?
>
> Theoretically, you could buy a new machine, install FreeDOS as the OS and
> copy the Hashavshevet DOS files to it...
>
> Could you give it a try and let us all know?
>
> Amichai.
>
>
> 2014-02-10 11:42 GMT+02:00 vordoo <vordoo at yahoo.com>:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> Hopefully you will get or find a striate answer but as I follow this
>> question for a long time with no actionable resoles I would:
>>
>> 1. Rephrase the question to: "Is anyone hear using or knows someone who
>> uses a linux desktop application (not a web based site) for an IL business
>> accounting?"
>>
>> 2. Consider using the old windows program in a virtual machine, it maybe
>> even better then the present setup, as you can access it from other PCs in
>> the network.
>>  *** you may need to make sure more then one concoction is not aloud,
>> depending on the original software design ***.
>>
>> HTH,
>> :-)
>>
>>  On 2014-02-10 00:16, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>>
>>   Hi all,
>>  I know this subject has been dealt with in the past but since the field
>> is fluid I'm bringing it up again.
>>  A friend of mine manages the books for several zedaka funds, currently
>> he still does this on an old DOS machine running chashavshevet, but the
>> machine is starting to display some potential signs of problems so he is
>> starting to look at other solutions.
>>
>>  Sadly (but understandably) gnucash is not Israel Tax Authority approved
>> so it's not an option, are there any Linux friendly options or will they
>> have to have a windows machine in the house again (I switched them to all
>> linux + 1 dos about 1-1.5 years ago).
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Eliyahu - ?????
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing listLinux-il at cs.huji.ac.ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>
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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Mon Feb 10 13:03:17 2014
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:03:17 +0200
Subject: ITA approved accounting software that runs on linux
In-Reply-To: <CAHAFOD8ge7yeF6-YG0RGSv6z+nPE++drLbBP3uAL9D0WOaW1zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHTx_BP1h-9QVGVV2gDWKKDO71-mDRL1XW9suTxMDvdGp5MqUQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F89F1D.1070808@yahoo.com>
 <CAD_ZK64MK4YKJ4waY0cgkyDZ0F50UTSpqkVbWwCBZN+UbL0mQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHAFOD8ge7yeF6-YG0RGSv6z+nPE++drLbBP3uAL9D0WOaW1zw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BNk+NNRCD8O5npG-F-hsrF0Vs_k5Zu0Zq0j3Ve11=p4jQ@mail.gmail.com>

It may very well be chashavshevet and not the computer that is starting to
flake out, he has to still try stuff, but since chashavshevet are unwilling
to give any form of support on it anymore he is now really starting to
think he needs to replace it...

IIRC I may have gotten it working on dosbox years ago just as a testcase to
move him to linux but at the time he didn't want to rock the boat, now I
would have to see if I can duplicate that again, but that still doesn't
solve the problem if it's chashavshevet and not the computer.

I would love to use a desktop application instead of a website but I can
imagine that unless some body wants to release signed versions of gnucash
that sign the files to guarantee they were only used in the approved builds
ITA won't like it....

Though I'm sure people like Ori who have interacted with ITA and know what
they demand can shed more light on that side then me...

Regards,
Eliyahu - ?????


2014-02-10 12:08 GMT+02:00 Udi Finkelstein <Linux-IL at udif.com>:

> The question is not if it will run under FreeDOS, but if it will be usable
> under FreeDOS.
> How will you back it up? The old machine probably had a floppy drive. I
> don't think that's a solution you want to stick to.
> In any case, you can always run it under VirtualBox and then backup the
> virtual HD file.
> You can even use the original DOS if you want.
> In fact you can create a disk image from the original HD and move it to
> the virtual machine.
>
> Another question is if Hashavshevet has a dongle (copy-protection). If
> yes, what type (parallel port?) and how these can be supported.
> I'm not sure you can even find a motherboard with an on-board true
> parallel port anymore. a USB to parallel adapter may not be compatible with
> copy protected programs that expects to access the parallel port via the
> original I/O locations in the PC memory map.
>
> This may be of help:
>
> http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/bastelecke/Rund%20um%20den%20PC/USB2LPT/ul-15.en.htm
>
> Udi
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il>wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliyahu,
>>
>> I wonder: Will Hashavshevet run on FreeDOS?
>>
>> Theoretically, you could buy a new machine, install FreeDOS as the OS and
>> copy the Hashavshevet DOS files to it...
>>
>> Could you give it a try and let us all know?
>>
>> Amichai.
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-10 11:42 GMT+02:00 vordoo <vordoo at yahoo.com>:
>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> Hopefully you will get or find a striate answer but as I follow this
>>> question for a long time with no actionable resoles I would:
>>>
>>> 1. Rephrase the question to: "Is anyone hear using or knows someone who
>>> uses a linux desktop application (not a web based site) for an IL business
>>> accounting?"
>>>
>>> 2. Consider using the old windows program in a virtual machine, it maybe
>>> even better then the present setup, as you can access it from other PCs in
>>> the network.
>>>  *** you may need to make sure more then one concoction is not aloud,
>>> depending on the original software design ***.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>  On 2014-02-10 00:16, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi all,
>>>  I know this subject has been dealt with in the past but since the field
>>> is fluid I'm bringing it up again.
>>>  A friend of mine manages the books for several zedaka funds, currently
>>> he still does this on an old DOS machine running chashavshevet, but the
>>> machine is starting to display some potential signs of problems so he is
>>> starting to look at other solutions.
>>>
>>>  Sadly (but understandably) gnucash is not Israel Tax Authority approved
>>> so it's not an option, are there any Linux friendly options or will they
>>> have to have a windows machine in the house again (I switched them to all
>>> linux + 1 dos about 1-1.5 years ago).
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>> Eliyahu - ?????
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Linux-il mailing listLinux-il at cs.huji.ac.ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Linux-il mailing list
>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>>
>
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From vordoo at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 10 18:44:19 2014
From: vordoo at yahoo.com (vordoo)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:44:19 +0200
Subject: ITA approved accounting software that runs on linux
In-Reply-To: <CAHAFOD8ge7yeF6-YG0RGSv6z+nPE++drLbBP3uAL9D0WOaW1zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHTx_BP1h-9QVGVV2gDWKKDO71-mDRL1XW9suTxMDvdGp5MqUQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F89F1D.1070808@yahoo.com>
 <CAD_ZK64MK4YKJ4waY0cgkyDZ0F50UTSpqkVbWwCBZN+UbL0mQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHAFOD8ge7yeF6-YG0RGSv6z+nPE++drLbBP3uAL9D0WOaW1zw@mail.gmail.com>
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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Tue Feb 11 01:33:56 2014
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 01:33:56 +0200
Subject: ITA approved accounting software that runs on linux
In-Reply-To: <52F901E3.5080701@yahoo.com>
References: <CAHTx_BP1h-9QVGVV2gDWKKDO71-mDRL1XW9suTxMDvdGp5MqUQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F89F1D.1070808@yahoo.com>
 <CAD_ZK64MK4YKJ4waY0cgkyDZ0F50UTSpqkVbWwCBZN+UbL0mQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHAFOD8ge7yeF6-YG0RGSv6z+nPE++drLbBP3uAL9D0WOaW1zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <52F901E3.5080701@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BO1DKDNdDVSwQBxDv0cApK+2hJQ-qaO=+e-kqtfy_YiNw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone know if moneydance is approved? (I remember I looked at it years ago
for someone else as an alternative to QuickBooks but that never worked out
because something went wrong with the import)

Thanks,
Eliyahu - ?????


2014-02-10 18:44 GMT+02:00 vordoo <vordoo at yahoo.com>:

>  On 2014-02-10 12:08, Udi Finkelstein wrote:
>
>   Another question is if Hashavshevet has a dongle (copy-protection). If
> yes, what type (parallel port?) and how these can be supported.
>
> You may have better luck with KVM or vmware  regarding this issue.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mordbe0 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 11 16:26:55 2014
From: mordbe0 at gmail.com (Mord Behar)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:26:55 +0200
Subject: OT: Cell phone service providers
Message-ID: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for the OT, but I need to tap the hive-mind of like-minded people.
It's that time of life again, and we need to rethink and renegotiate our
cell phone plans. This time, there are more than just the "big three".
I know that Rami Levy is just subcontracting for Pelephone, HomeCellular is
subcontracting for Cellcom and YouPhone is subcontracting for Orange
(Partner).
Golan seems to be the only "real" company, willing to invest in their own
infrastructure (currently have installed several hundred antennas
country-wide) and in the mean time is using Cellcom's infrastructure.
Comparing prices and plans is easy, and they all more or less offer similar
plans.
So, my question is: what kind of experience have you had with your cell
phone service provider? (Any of them, but preferably I'd like to hear about
the new companies).
I've heard that text messages on Golan are unreliable (the sender is on
Golan, I lack sufficient data about the receivers). Someone told me that
her messages will be received at the other end with no guarantees
whatsoever. Sometimes they'd be received normally, sometimes after a large
delay (hours, days, in one case weeks) and often they are received jumbled
(parts of two messages mashed together to form something incoherent or
embarrassing). Has anybody else had this experience? Or similar experiences?
Thank you.
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From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Tue Feb 11 16:53:23 2014
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:53:23 +0200
Subject: OT: Cell phone service providers
In-Reply-To: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BPStcSm3W4Ru2F14+5OVrVF0Y6ncf=j5TEtxFjPwbwfPA@mail.gmail.com>

Subcontracting another network doesn't mean you shouldn't consider them....

I've been with Orange, Ramy Levi, Hot (MIRS) and am now with Golan.
Other then Orange being thieves no big complaints, switched away from Ramy
Levi because of International calling, switched from Hot because my phone
was messed up and didn't like their network but after switching it turned
out it didn't like other networks either.

I really like the fact that Golan offers a good online control panel for
your account.

My only real complaint (and I have seen this with all networks I was on
except Orange) is that they don't properly send calls to the local
100/101/102 I too often end up talking to the Tel Aviv dispatchers instead
of the Jerusalem dispatchers.

Regards,
Eliyahu - ?????


2014-02-11 16:26 GMT+02:00 Mord Behar <mordbe0 at gmail.com>:

> Sorry for the OT, but I need to tap the hive-mind of like-minded people.
> It's that time of life again, and we need to rethink and renegotiate our
> cell phone plans. This time, there are more than just the "big three".
> I know that Rami Levy is just subcontracting for Pelephone, HomeCellular
> is subcontracting for Cellcom and YouPhone is subcontracting for Orange
> (Partner).
> Golan seems to be the only "real" company, willing to invest in their own
> infrastructure (currently have installed several hundred antennas
> country-wide) and in the mean time is using Cellcom's infrastructure.
> Comparing prices and plans is easy, and they all more or less offer
> similar plans.
> So, my question is: what kind of experience have you had with your cell
> phone service provider? (Any of them, but preferably I'd like to hear about
> the new companies).
> I've heard that text messages on Golan are unreliable (the sender is on
> Golan, I lack sufficient data about the receivers). Someone told me that
> her messages will be received at the other end with no guarantees
> whatsoever. Sometimes they'd be received normally, sometimes after a large
> delay (hours, days, in one case weeks) and often they are received jumbled
> (parts of two messages mashed together to form something incoherent or
> embarrassing). Has anybody else had this experience? Or similar experiences?
> Thank you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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From wickedpheonix at gmail.com  Tue Feb 11 17:15:20 2014
From: wickedpheonix at gmail.com (Ari Becker)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:15:20 +0200
Subject: OT: Cell phone service providers
In-Reply-To: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
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As far as I'm concerned, Golan should be the default. I call and am called
by relatives in the US so their price and features are unbeatable. Their
service is great and so is the online control panel.

I haven't had problems with SMS with Golan, but honestly, these days
everyone uses Whatsapp anyways. I do sometimes suffer from dropped calls,
but it's not that big a deal.

The only carrier I could imagine switching to is Orange, since they're
going to put up their LTE network soon enough, but without a true unlimited
option under Orange, what's the point?

The only thing I could really ask from Golan is to stay competitive with
LTE and allow me to pay more for a true unlimited plan.
On Feb 11, 2014 4:27 PM, "Mord Behar" <mordbe0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for the OT, but I need to tap the hive-mind of like-minded people.
> It's that time of life again, and we need to rethink and renegotiate our
> cell phone plans. This time, there are more than just the "big three".
> I know that Rami Levy is just subcontracting for Pelephone, HomeCellular
> is subcontracting for Cellcom and YouPhone is subcontracting for Orange
> (Partner).
> Golan seems to be the only "real" company, willing to invest in their own
> infrastructure (currently have installed several hundred antennas
> country-wide) and in the mean time is using Cellcom's infrastructure.
> Comparing prices and plans is easy, and they all more or less offer
> similar plans.
> So, my question is: what kind of experience have you had with your cell
> phone service provider? (Any of them, but preferably I'd like to hear about
> the new companies).
> I've heard that text messages on Golan are unreliable (the sender is on
> Golan, I lack sufficient data about the receivers). Someone told me that
> her messages will be received at the other end with no guarantees
> whatsoever. Sometimes they'd be received normally, sometimes after a large
> delay (hours, days, in one case weeks) and often they are received jumbled
> (parts of two messages mashed together to form something incoherent or
> embarrassing). Has anybody else had this experience? Or similar experiences?
> Thank you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
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From rabin at rabin.io  Tue Feb 11 19:24:38 2014
From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:24:38 +0200
Subject: OT: Cell phone service providers
In-Reply-To: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABKuJEDXaeC3_QqprkfQueK3JwX9B8Yv0eHpziXQngDBG3W6aQ@mail.gmail.com>

I change my wife plan from Cellcom -> Golan (late 2011-2012), and she was
complaining about the reception & some times a call will drop (we live in
Jerusalem/PisgatZeev)
I was on Rami-Levi at that time, and i didn't have this problem, and I was
satisfied with the Internet speed most of the time (tethering & mobile).

Then we both move (most of 2012-2013) to YouPhone - with better reception,
same Internet performance in my case.
And when the deal was over, and both switched back to Rami-Levi (less
expensive 50 NIS/mo for a year) , And one again I have bad reception in
some places, but nothing that will make me want to pay more.

?--
*Rabin*


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Mord Behar <mordbe0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for the OT, but I need to tap the hive-mind of like-minded people.
> It's that time of life again, and we need to rethink and renegotiate our
> cell phone plans. This time, there are more than just the "big three".
> I know that Rami Levy is just subcontracting for Pelephone, HomeCellularis subcontracting for Cellcom and YouPhone is subcontracting for Orange
> (Partner).
> Golan seems to be the only "real" company, willing to invest in their own
> infrastructure (currently have installed several hundred antennas
> country-wide) and in the mean time is using Cellcom's infrastructure.
> Comparing prices and plans is easy, and they all more or less offer
> similar plans.
> So, my question is: what kind of experience have you had with your cell
> phone service provider? (Any of them, but preferably I'd like to hear about
> the new companies).
> I've heard that text messages on Golan are unreliable (the sender is on
> Golan, I lack sufficient data about the receivers). Someone told me that
> her messages will be received at the other end with no guarantees
> whatsoever. Sometimes they'd be received normally, sometimes after a large
> delay (hours, days, in one case weeks) and often they are received jumbled
> (parts of two messages mashed together to form something incoherent or
> embarrassing). Has anybody else had this experience? Or similar experiences?
> Thank you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
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From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com  Tue Feb 11 19:26:40 2014
From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (geoffrey mendelson)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:26:40 +0200
Subject: OT: Cell phone service providers
In-Reply-To: <CAK2xwae4fB6wWzv6b59Md4ots5iB3xtNdcJzV_85tpGAmb0MFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK2xwae4fB6wWzv6b59Md4ots5iB3xtNdcJzV_85tpGAmb0MFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52FA5D50.8030604@gmail.com>

On 2/11/2014 5:15 PM, Ari Becker wrote:
>
> As far as I'm concerned, Golan should be the default. I call and am 
> called by relatives in the US so their price and features are 
> unbeatable. Their service is great and so is the online control panel.
>
> I haven't had problems with SMS with Golan, but honestly, these days 
> everyone uses Whatsapp anyways. I do sometimes suffer from dropped 
> calls, but it's not that big a deal.
>
> The only carrier I could imagine switching to is Orange, since they're 
> going to put up their LTE network soon enough, but without a true 
> unlimited option under Orange, what's the point?
>
> The only thing I could really ask from Golan is to stay competitive 
> with LTE and allow me to pay more for a true unlimited plan.
>
>

I agree 100%. It so happens that there is a Cellcom cell about 200 
meters from my home and a Golan one about 1km away. My 2g phone connects 
to the Cellcom cell, my 3g phones and iPads connect to the Golan one.

Ari, I'm not sure what you mean by a true unlimited plan. Golan's 3g of 
data is small compared to a landline, and I'd love to see more, but 
their "fair use" limit of 3,000 minutes a month (100 minutes a day, 
every day) is a brain cooker.


Geoff.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
Jerusalem Israel.



From wickedpheonix at gmail.com  Tue Feb 11 19:50:21 2014
From: wickedpheonix at gmail.com (Ari Becker)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:50:21 +0200
Subject: OT: Cell phone service providers
In-Reply-To: <52FA5D50.8030604@gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK2xwae4fB6wWzv6b59Md4ots5iB3xtNdcJzV_85tpGAmb0MFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52FA5D50.8030604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK2xwafe+xr4O4AANbQ3-5aa++mhESa2YCxHML3RMhRj5Ynw-w@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, by "true unlimited" I was talking about Internet, not voice. I meant
unlimited data without throttling for going over an arbitrary 3G limit.

Because of the nature of my job, I only have access to a landline on
weekends so I have to watch my usage very carefully not to go over the
limit and have my main source of Internet access slow to a crawl. I
currently pay 100 shekels a month, I could easily be persuaded to up that
to 200 or 300 shekels a month for a never-throttle plan so that I can watch
YouTube and listen to Internet radio in peace.
On Feb 11, 2014 7:26 PM, "geoffrey mendelson" <geoffreymendelson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 2/11/2014 5:15 PM, Ari Becker wrote:
>
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned, Golan should be the default. I call and am
>> called by relatives in the US so their price and features are unbeatable.
>> Their service is great and so is the online control panel.
>>
>> I haven't had problems with SMS with Golan, but honestly, these days
>> everyone uses Whatsapp anyways. I do sometimes suffer from dropped calls,
>> but it's not that big a deal.
>>
>> The only carrier I could imagine switching to is Orange, since they're
>> going to put up their LTE network soon enough, but without a true unlimited
>> option under Orange, what's the point?
>>
>> The only thing I could really ask from Golan is to stay competitive with
>> LTE and allow me to pay more for a true unlimited plan.
>>
>>
>>
> I agree 100%. It so happens that there is a Cellcom cell about 200 meters
> from my home and a Golan one about 1km away. My 2g phone connects to the
> Cellcom cell, my 3g phones and iPads connect to the Golan one.
>
> Ari, I'm not sure what you mean by a true unlimited plan. Golan's 3g of
> data is small compared to a landline, and I'd love to see more, but their
> "fair use" limit of 3,000 minutes a month (100 minutes a day, every day) is
> a brain cooker.
>
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
> Jerusalem Israel.
>
>
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From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com  Tue Feb 11 20:12:12 2014
From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (geoffrey mendelson)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:12:12 +0200
Subject: OT: Cell phone service providers
In-Reply-To: <CAK2xwafe+xr4O4AANbQ3-5aa++mhESa2YCxHML3RMhRj5Ynw-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAK2xwae4fB6wWzv6b59Md4ots5iB3xtNdcJzV_85tpGAmb0MFQ@mail.gmail.com>	<52FA5D50.8030604@gmail.com>
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On 2/11/2014 7:50 PM, Ari Becker wrote:
>
> Yeah, by "true unlimited" I was talking about Internet, not voice. I 
> meant unlimited data without throttling for going over an arbitrary 3G 
> limit.
>
> Because of the nature of my job, I only have access to a landline on 
> weekends so I have to watch my usage very carefully not to go over the 
> limit and have my main source of Internet access slow to a crawl. I 
> currently pay 100 shekels a month, I could easily be persuaded to up 
> that to 200 or 300 shekels a month for a never-throttle plan so that I 
> can watch YouTube and listen to Internet radio in peace.
>
>
Back when I was using USB sticks for cellular internet, I got an Orange 
pay as you go SIM with it. 149 NIS a month gave me 20gig. I don't know 
if they still offer it or another similar plan.

The competition from Cell-Com was truely unlimted, BUT if you went over 
what 80% of their users used that month, the next month you were in 
cellular data hell, around 56k bits per second. Pelephone had a similar 
plan. The way around that was buy two SIMs, and when one was limited, 
use the other.  I had a friend who dropped her landline in favor of a 
Cell-Com unlimited data plan. No one told her about the limit and she 
was back to a landline in a month.

BTW, if you are using Golan, it's only 59 NIS a month. They are having a 
sale for 2014, and the price will hold until the end of the year.

Geoff.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
Jerusalem Israel.



From esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il  Tue Feb 11 22:02:26 2014
From: esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il (E.S. Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:02:26 +0200
Subject: railsgirls
Message-ID: <CAHTx_BOE=5a4RU1GtSugKEjO5bE=9J4n_nwZGNgsMFJjnxAG6Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://railsgirls.co.il/

Pretty cool initiative, how was that never mentioned on this list, or have
I been sleeping?

(I found it through this kickstarter which I think also sounds very cool
for anyone who would like their kids to know programming:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lindaliukas/hello-ruby even though I
myself use other languages)

Regards,
Eliyahu - ?????
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From mycroft at infoscav.net  Wed Feb 12 17:37:45 2014
From: mycroft at infoscav.net (Michael Vasiliev)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:37:45 +0200
Subject: railsgirls
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From shlomif at gmail.com  Wed Feb 12 21:17:56 2014
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:17:56 +0200
Subject: Fwd: railsgirls
In-Reply-To: <20140212203955.35c2768f@telaviv1.shlomifish.org>
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Forwarding from my GMail.com account because the message was not received.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Shlomi Fish <shlomif at shlomifish.org>
Date: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: railsgirls
To: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>
Cc: linux-il <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>, shlomif at gmail.com


Hi Eliyahu,

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:02:26 +0200
"E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il> wrote:

> http://railsgirls.co.il/
>
> Pretty cool initiative, how was that never mentioned on this list, or have
> I been sleeping?

I don't think it was, but I'm suffering from information overload, so I
don't
remember if it was posted there. Anywhere, there's been a lot of activity
online
and offline that hasn't been mentioned on Linux-IL, in part because there
are
other resources now, in part because there's been a huge fragmentation, and
in
part because people forget or neglect to announce in all the proper
channels.
The so-called "Ruby Underground" meetups are not even announced on the
Ruby-Israel mailing list ( http://www.iglu.org.il/mailing-lists/ruby-il.html).

>

It does seem like a welcome and "cool" initiative. However, here is my
commentary on the page:

1. I appreciate that the page has a clean and uncluttered design. That's
good.

2. When JavaScript is whitelisted, the page rotates the images (which causes
distraction) and there is no visible widget to cancel it, nor is the "Stop
animations" feature of Firefox able to prevent it from being animated. I
decided to blacklist JavaScript again. ( I tested it with an animated GIF
and
it worked, but I guess it cannot handle all forms of JS/CSS3 animations -
at least not yet).

That's bad.

3. The logo at the top says "Rails Girls was created in order to give girls
and women the tools to build[sic] their ideas.". Assuming I were a girl,
this
does indeed sound "awesome", but it's too vague - which tools and which
ideas?
Will it allow me to build a bike like the one pictured below the logo? Will
it
allow me to buy a spaceship? Why not get to the point and tell me what you
are
all about. Show me the money!!! There's nothing wrong with teaching web
development so just say that that is what you do.

That's bad.

Similarly, one of my first bad impressions of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AngularJS was that its web-site simply said
"AngularJS - The Superheroic JavaScript library.". Fine, you think it is
awesome. You think it's "superheroic". Bleh! Please tell me why! I want to
know
something I don't know, for example what AngularJS is all about, and/or why
and when should I consider using it.

4. There is no visible contact information anywhere on the page (not even
when
JavaScript is enabled). The only links are for converting the messages from
Hebrew to English and back, and to the "Get started here" (in Hebrew
singular
feminine form, which excludes me as a guy - possibly on purpose). I hope
there
are people whom I can get in touch with with this and the rest of my
criticism
either here or on Ruby-Israel (where I'm going to forward this message), but
it's still annoying and frustrating - see
http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#obscure_email_addr . Note: a usable
contact
form would be better than nothing, but don't be disillusioned that it will
100%
prevent spam.

> (I found it through this kickstarter which I think also sounds very cool
> for anyone who would like their kids to know programming:
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lindaliukas/hello-ruby even though I
> myself use other languages)

I may check it out thanks - still have not followed the link to kickstarter.

Sorry if the tone of the message was too flamatory.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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From erez0001 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 13 11:09:37 2014
From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:09:37 +0200
Subject: svn on debian chroot android
Message-ID: <CAMUp3wmA+TW2T-3Nw2dn4t-sk_Bg8LyvBYdZ311o=YXxPYNtAQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello

i am trying to use svn on my chrooted android (chrooted with app called
"lil's debian")

it seems i can not get network connection using a regular user. any svn or
wget command is returned with permission denied.
however as root it works

but doing 'sudo svn ...' generates files with root ownership. which means i
need to 'chown -R' after every update.

so:
1. is there a way to get internet access for a regular user ?
2. is there a way to tell svn to create files with regular user ownership
but run as root


thanks
erez.
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From tzafrir at cohens.org.il  Thu Feb 13 15:33:11 2014
From: tzafrir at cohens.org.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:33:11 +0100
Subject: svn on debian chroot android
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wmA+TW2T-3Nw2dn4t-sk_Bg8LyvBYdZ311o=YXxPYNtAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wmA+TW2T-3Nw2dn4t-sk_Bg8LyvBYdZ311o=YXxPYNtAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20140213133311.GY16130@lemon.cohens.org.il>

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Erez D wrote:
> Hello
> 
> i am trying to use svn on my chrooted android (chrooted with app called
> "lil's debian")
> 
> it seems i can not get network connection using a regular user. any svn or
> wget command is returned with permission denied.
> however as root it works
> 
> but doing 'sudo svn ...' generates files with root ownership. which means i
> need to 'chown -R' after every update.
> 
> so:
> 1. is there a way to get internet access for a regular user ?
> 2. is there a way to tell svn to create files with regular user ownership
> but run as root

Your kernel is paranoid:

It has CONFIG_ANDROID_PARANOID_NETWORK set. To get network access, add
your user to group 3003 (inet).

See http://elinux.org/Android_Security#Paranoid_network-ing


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From erez0001 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 13 20:24:09 2014
From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:24:09 +0200
Subject: svn on debian chroot android
In-Reply-To: <20140213133311.GY16130@lemon.cohens.org.il>
References: <CAMUp3wmA+TW2T-3Nw2dn4t-sk_Bg8LyvBYdZ311o=YXxPYNtAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMUp3wnViML0+LjMkwpAUODdM47O=mKgYgr+Jgg9e0Z5z9JGLQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Feb 13, 2014 3:58 PM, "Tzafrir Cohen" <tzafrir at cohens.org.il> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Erez D wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > i am trying to use svn on my chrooted android (chrooted with app called
> > "lil's debian")
> >
> > it seems i can not get network connection using a regular user. any svn
or
> > wget command is returned with permission denied.
> > however as root it works
> >
> > but doing 'sudo svn ...' generates files with root ownership. which
means i
> > need to 'chown -R' after every update.
> >
> > so:
> > 1. is there a way to get internet access for a regular user ?
> > 2. is there a way to tell svn to create files with regular user
ownership
> > but run as root
>
> Your kernel is paranoid:
>
> It has CONFIG_ANDROID_PARANOID_NETWORK set. To get network access, add
> your user to group 3003 (inet).
>
Thamks. I'll try that
> See http://elinux.org/Android_Security#Paranoid_network-ing
>
>
> --
> Tzafrir Cohen         | tzafrir at jabber.org | VIM is
> http://tzafrir.org.il |                    | a Mutt's
> tzafrir at cohens.org.il |                    |  best
> tzafrir at debian.org    |                    | friend
>
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From erez0001 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 13 21:36:58 2014
From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:36:58 +0200
Subject: svn on debian chroot android
In-Reply-To: <CAMUp3wnViML0+LjMkwpAUODdM47O=mKgYgr+Jgg9e0Z5z9JGLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMUp3wmA+TW2T-3Nw2dn4t-sk_Bg8LyvBYdZ311o=YXxPYNtAQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20140213133311.GY16130@lemon.cohens.org.il>
 <CAMUp3wnViML0+LjMkwpAUODdM47O=mKgYgr+Jgg9e0Z5z9JGLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMUp3wm7zPMqLNFMY4rj5_nANFq2UVr6edzOJgY6fGc=jXkKxQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Erez D <erez0001 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Feb 13, 2014 3:58 PM, "Tzafrir Cohen" <tzafrir at cohens.org.il> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Erez D wrote:
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > i am trying to use svn on my chrooted android (chrooted with app called
> > > "lil's debian")
> > >
> > > it seems i can not get network connection using a regular user. any
> svn or
> > > wget command is returned with permission denied.
> > > however as root it works
> > >
> > > but doing 'sudo svn ...' generates files with root ownership. which
> means i
> > > need to 'chown -R' after every update.
> > >
> > > so:
> > > 1. is there a way to get internet access for a regular user ?
> > > 2. is there a way to tell svn to create files with regular user
> ownership
> > > but run as root
> >
> > Your kernel is paranoid:
> >
> > It has CONFIG_ANDROID_PARANOID_NETWORK set. To get network access, add
> > your user to group 3003 (inet).
> >
> Thamks. I'll try that

works

>
> > See http://elinux.org/Android_Security#Paranoid_network-ing
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tzafrir Cohen         | tzafrir at jabber.org | VIM is
> > http://tzafrir.org.il |                    | a Mutt's
> > tzafrir at cohens.org.il |                    |  best
> > tzafrir at debian.org    |                    | friend
> >
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From eli at billauer.co.il  Sat Feb 15 17:53:21 2014
From: eli at billauer.co.il (Eli Billauer)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:53:21 +0200
Subject: [HAIFUX LECTURE] PacketShader: a GPU-Accelerated Software Router --
 Shachar Raindel
Message-ID: <52FF8D71.9040408@billauer.co.il>

On Monday, February 17th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by Shachar Raindel:

    PacketShader: a GPU-Accelerated Software Router

Abstract

PacketShader is a high-performance software router framework for general packet processing with Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) acceleration. PacketShader exploits the massively-parallel processing power of GPU to address the CPU bottleneck in current software routers. Combined with our high-performance packet I/O engine, PacketShader outperforms existing software routers by more than a factor of four, forwarding 64B IPv4 packets at 39 Gbps on a single commodity PC. PacketShader evaluation included implementation of IPv4 and IPv6 forwarding, OpenFlow switching, and IPsec tunneling to demonstrate the flexibility and performance advantage of it. The evaluation results show that GPU brings significantly higher throughput over the CPU-only implementation, confirming the effectiveness of GPU for computation and memory-intensive operations in packet processing.

The lecture will also provide background regarding GPU ? brief history, architecture, cons and pros for accelerating applications using GPU.

If time will permit, we will also discuss SSLShaders, which accelerates SSL encryption/decryption on the GPU.


=================================================================

We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see:
http://www.haifux.org/where.html

Attendance is free, and you are all invited!

==================================================================
Future lectures:

03/03/14 Open Ethernet Initiative - using Linux as the foundation of
          a networking OS: Matty Kados
17/03/14 Linux Containers and the future cloud: Rami Rosen


==================================================================

We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux might be interested in, please contact us at webmaster at haifux.org

-- 
Web: http://www.billauer.co.il



From mordbe0 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 10:22:41 2014
From: mordbe0 at gmail.com (Mord Behar)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 10:22:41 +0200
Subject: OT: Cell phone service providers
In-Reply-To: <CALJxeiLhoxXHvyUFX2Zcu_CErT8ktDsqxUVC=m7NB2xGF5-1Ug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxFvZmCRTC2rcfNwiw-37s6LzXSXr-=06TrtZY9bWoBwgA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you everybody for your input.
We went with Golan. One phone the 59 NIS a month unlimited plan, the other
the 10 NIS a month plan.
On the 10 NIS phone I'm trying to keep track of dropped and garbled calls,
as well as good calls. Not exactly scientific, since I forget a few and I
don't always know the carrier on the other end. But maybe it will help
somebody in the future.


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Beni Cherniavsky-Paskin <
beni.cherniavsky at gmail.com> wrote:

> + Golan also have the nice property that they throttle you if you exceed
> 3G instead of charging huge overage fees.
> I guess throttling = 2G speed, which is barely usable, but I'm more
> concerned with paying a predictable bill -- an option to hard-limit data
> usage would also be acceptable.
>
> e.g. Rami Levi told me they don't have a have a hard-limit option, I have
> to monitor my usage (and they'll send me SMSes when I approach the limit).
>  It's easy enough to set up a limit in android, just made me a little
> annoyed as an approach.
> - What annoyed me more with Rami Levi was when I upgraded the data plan in
> the middle of the month (1G->5G IIRC) and they charged me some overage at
> that moment because my usage since the start of the month exceeded 1G *
> <portion of the month>.
>
> Pre-paid plans guarantee a predictable bill, of course.  But these cost
> more at all providers.
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From shlomif at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 12:52:12 2014
From: shlomif at gmail.com (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:52:12 +0200
Subject: Fwd: [Israel.pm] Tel Aviv Perl Mongers Meeting on 26 February 2014:
 "The Dart Programming Language" by Gabor Szabo
In-Reply-To: <20140218102634.3ed601d5@telaviv1.shlomifish.org>
References: <20140218102634.3ed601d5@telaviv1.shlomifish.org>
Message-ID: <CANy4znXCuhxgvxoe_Xw1mMyi41bB=9d761GqLSUSAmLh1u0Vqg@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Shlomi Fish <shlomif at shlomifish.org>
Date: 2014-02-18 10:26 GMT+02:00
Subject: [Israel.pm] Tel Aviv Perl Mongers Meeting on 26 February 2014:
"The Dart Programming Language" by Gabor Szabo
To: Perl in Israel <perl at perl.org.il>


The Tel Aviv Perl Mongers ( http://telaviv.pm.org/ ) will hold their next
meeting on Wednesday, 26 February 2014, starting at 18:30 in the evening in
Shenkar College, room 247 in the old building (Entrance from Anna Frank
St.) in
Ramat Gan.

On the Agenda:

18:30 - 19:00 : Get Together.

19:00 - 20:00 : Gabor Szabo - ?The Dart Programming Language?

Dart is a programming language developed by Google ?to replace
JavaScript?. I am currently exploring it and I?d like to share what I?ve
found
so far.

https://www.dartlang.org/

20:00 - ... : after-party in a caf? or a restaurant.

Attendance is free-of-charge and everyone are welcome.

If you have any questions or requests, do not hesitate to contact the
organiser,
Shlomi Fish, at any of the ways given here -
http://www.shlomifish.org/me/contact-me/ .

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

-------------------------------------------------------

????? ???? ??? ?????? ( http://telaviv.pm.org/ ) ????? ?? ?????? ???? ????
???? ?????, ?-26 ??????? 2014, ??? ?-18:30 ???? ?????? ????, ??? 247 (??????
???? ????? ??? ????) ???? ??. ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ???? ?????
???
?? ????? ????? ?????, ??? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? ????, ????? ???? ???????
,?????? ????, ??? ??????? ?????? ????.

?? ????:

18:30 - 19:00 : ??????? ????? ?????.

19:00 - 20:00 : ????? ??? - ??? ?????? Dart

???? (Dart) ???? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??????? ?? ?'????-???????.
???? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ??.

20:00 - ? : ??? ???? ??? ?? ?????.

??????? ????? ???? ?????? ????? ??????? ????.

?? ?? ??? ????? ?? ?????, ?? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??????, ????? ???, ??????
????? ????? ????? ???:
http://www.shlomifish.org/me/contact-me/ .


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to
say ?Do you speak English??. The first thing that needs to be taught when
teaching a new computer tool is how to exit it.

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From wordz2u at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 07:29:02 2014
From: wordz2u at gmail.com (Steve G.)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:29:02 +0200
Subject: Nexus 5, Linux laptop Q's
Message-ID: <CAJAZ2DRtLoCoCBF8-DO6V0_vUMdtEyL+udVmNJ3WdU55DvOp0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Two questions

1.In my search for a good but cost effective phone, I think that Google's
Nexus 5 is a very good choice.

Currently I am with Golan, and fairly satisfied. Do you know if this phone
is compatible with Golan, or any of the other discount carriers in Israel?

2. I need a powerful, yet light, yet cost effective laptop to run
statistical analyses, in either Windows or (preferably) Linux, and my
current i3 Toshiba with 3GB ram is beginning to show its age. My usual
modus operandii is to either find a discontinued laptop model (I am talking
in the US, at stores such as Best Buy, Office Depot/Max, Target) that is
offered at a low price, or buy at a discount store (TigerDirect, Walmart).
These are usually Windows computers, but if the model is old enough it has
little issues with Linux

Any advice or suggestions of good makes and models to shop for? It used to
be IBM, but I am not sure Lenovo is as Linux friendly.

Thanks,

Z.
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From vordoo at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 26 08:46:00 2014
From: vordoo at yahoo.com (vordoo)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:46:00 +0200
Subject: Nexus 5, Linux laptop Q's
In-Reply-To: <CAJAZ2DRtLoCoCBF8-DO6V0_vUMdtEyL+udVmNJ3WdU55DvOp0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJAZ2DRtLoCoCBF8-DO6V0_vUMdtEyL+udVmNJ3WdU55DvOp0Q@mail.gmail.com>
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From alon at skylinesoft.com  Wed Feb 26 10:34:06 2014
From: alon at skylinesoft.com (Alon Barzilai)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:34:06 +0200
Subject: Nexus 5, Linux laptop Q's
In-Reply-To: <CAJAZ2DRtLoCoCBF8-DO6V0_vUMdtEyL+udVmNJ3WdU55DvOp0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJAZ2DRtLoCoCBF8-DO6V0_vUMdtEyL+udVmNJ3WdU55DvOp0Q@mail.gmail.com>
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From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com  Thu Feb 27 11:24:49 2014
From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (geoffrey mendelson)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:24:49 +0200
Subject: OT, but often discussed here, change to Golan cellular plan.
Message-ID: <530F0461.5050201@gmail.com>

The Hebrew announcement  is up, but not an English one yet.

Golan has added the option to change your regular plan, currently 59 NIS 
a month for this year, to include 6 gigabytes of data.

Currently when you go above 3 gigabytes it slows down.

If you go to the settings page for each of your lines, at the bottom of 
actions  (right side in English, left side in Hebrew) is the HEBREW 
option to switch to a 6 gigabyte limit. Same terms as the 3, your 
connection may slow down if you go over.

There is no charge to make the switch and no additional monthly charge.

Geoff.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
Jerusalem Israel.



From mordbe0 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 28 10:29:30 2014
From: mordbe0 at gmail.com (Mord Behar)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:29:30 +0200
Subject: OT: wiki hosting
Message-ID: <CAJzkJxFJ4GadgmR63D34MxsEX4U9Fj787QowiEDO79JqgHpu+w@mail.gmail.com>

Does anybody have any experience with free (ad-supported) wiki hosting?
Looking on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services I see that there
is a large selection of possibilities. Has anybody used any of these? Heard
about any of them?
I know that an alternative is to buy some cheap web hosting and do it
there, but it seems a waste if all I want is a wiki...
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From linux-il at shimi.net  Fri Feb 28 10:37:38 2014
From: linux-il at shimi.net (shimi)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:37:38 +0200
Subject: OT: wiki hosting
In-Reply-To: <CAJzkJxFJ4GadgmR63D34MxsEX4U9Fj787QowiEDO79JqgHpu+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJzkJxFJ4GadgmR63D34MxsEX4U9Fj787QowiEDO79JqgHpu+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKnt4U-K3ph5GJyYe8oiKgBUjB58cc9oQ+uF8c+NGwaCLtpoLw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Mord Behar <mordbe0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anybody have any experience with free (ad-supported) wiki hosting?
> Looking on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services I see that
> there is a large selection of possibilities. Has anybody used any of these?
> Heard about any of them?
> I know that an alternative is to buy some cheap web hosting and do it
> there, but it seems a waste if all I want is a wiki...
>
>
Seen Wikia as the domain in many Google search results...  not sure I've
ever encountered any of the others on the list. Not that this says anything
:)

-- Shimi
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